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post #181 of 209 Old 09-20-2018, 07:27 PM
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There's probably never been a worse time in history to buy a new TV than right now, but at least it is clear that this is the one TV to avoid, unless one is looking to waste a huge amount of money on an instantly-obsolete novelty footnote.

Hopefully LG is finally smart enough not to follow Samsung down yet another cheesy dead end, and, by focusing on actual picture quality improvement, take the market share that should righfully be theirs.
How so? No one has even seen it yet. There’s no way you can fairly draw that conclusion.

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There's probably never been a worse time in history to buy a new TV than right now, but at least it is clear that this is the one TV to avoid, unless one is looking to waste a huge amount of money on an instantly-obsolete novelty footnote.

Hopefully LG is finally smart enough not to follow Samsung down yet another cheesy dead end, and, by focusing on actual picture quality improvement, take the market share that should righfully be theirs.
Comments like these just baffle me. This is supposed to be an enthusiast forum right? I guess so because we have sections on here related to equiptment that costs $20000 and higher. Why is there so much hostility and hyperbole towards the advancement and innovation of new tech. We all knew 8K is coming so it kind of confuses me all these drive by comments that add nothing usefull to the discussion.
4K sets aren't going to become obsolete but I personally welcome new tech and innovation. Was there this much anger when 4K sets were just being released and everyone had 1080p sets? Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean its not exciting.

8K is here and its for large screen sizes hence only the 85 inch model releasing in the states. It also has 4000 nits which is pretty much double what any current set on the market has and will be the first set that doesn't need to tonemap HDR content. If people didn't realise SDR is not the future of content. HDR is and this set will push HDR forward by being the only set on the market to hit 4000 nits.

You mention LG who have a current monopoly on OLED tech. There is barely any difference between the 2018 sets compared to the 2016 sets. The upgrades are incremental at best. OLED would probably be pushed a hell of a lot more if all the companies where able to do there own panel but because LG have a monopoly over them the upgrades are small each year.

No matter what people think this set will be one of the most advanced consumer sets on the market and the prices aren't even that crazy. Over in the UK the 75 inch model is £1000 more than what the 4K Q9FN set launched at. There hasn't even been any reviews yet and all we've had are impressions that have been very positive. New tech excites me. Whether you want to buy it or not be grateful companies are trying new things and pushing televisions forward.
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Much points at that q900r being the best led 2018. 8k aside ofc
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we Do not want the Q900R to dim the shadow details also we do not want to handle poor color accuracy

We want a high-quality screen for the user, Enough

I want upgrade tv but we want a screen worthy of respect and practical to use
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we Do not want the Q900R to dim the shadow details also we do not want to handle poor color accuracy

We want a high-quality screen for the user, Enough

I want upgrade tv but we want a screen worthy of respect and practical to use
You've seen and tested a preproduction model to make these assumptions?
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we Do not want the Q900R to dim the shadow details also we do not want to handle poor color accuracy

We want a high-quality screen for the user, Enough

I want upgrade tv but we want a screen worthy of respect and practical to use
You've seen and tested a preproduction model to make these assumptions?
No, but I'm afraid to be Be like Q9FN

Today's results shootout tv 2018 disappointed me

I hope it will be skipped it with the Q900R
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There is an event this Thursday where there will be a lot of hands on so hopefully we will find out more then.
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There is an event this Thursday where there will be a lot of hands on so hopefully we will find out more then.
What's the event?
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What's the event?
I believe its like a retail launch/training event in the UK. A couple of the stores iv spoken to have people attending. Its less than 2 weeks till launch now in the EU.
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I believe its like a retail launch/training event in the UK. A couple of the stores iv spoken to have people attending. Its less than 2 weeks till launch now in the EU.
I'll have PLENTY to post soon including a full hands-on review using my meters, my content. Roughly the same timeline.
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I'll have PLENTY to post soon including a full hands-on review using my meters, my content. Roughly the same timeline.

Does that mean this week mate? Very much looking forward to your actual hands on impressions as we have none so far. Its one thing being on the show floor but another entirely being able to do measurements and see what other improvements there is.
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I'll have PLENTY to post soon including a full hands-on review using my meters, my content. Roughly the same timeline.
dont forget to test 1440/120hz and maybe 4K/120 if possible


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and getting clarity from Samsung regarding the supposed 8K/60 upgrade would be good
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"Complimentary HDMI 8K 60Hz upgrade included (contact customer support)"

Will it ever be able to output 8k 60fps?
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Spoke to Samsung, they said TV will come equipped with full HDMI 2.1 upgrade and the ability to receive and output [email protected] hz. Can someone else verify?

I always thought the TV had a hardware limitation to only output [email protected]
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put that HDMI 2.1 on 2019 4K models, I beg you Samsung
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Spoke to Samsung, they said TV will come equipped with full HDMI 2.1 upgrade and the ability to receive and output [email protected] hz. Can someone else verify?

I always thought the TV had a hardware limitation to only output [email protected]
Its hard to know what to believe. Some said it currently can do 8K 30HZ already. Others said that's all it will ever do. Samsung then post that there will be a 8K 60HZ upgrade. Its seems abit of a mess which is accurate at this point.
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Its hard to know what to believe. Some said it currently can do 8K 30HZ already. Others said that's all it will ever do. Samsung then post that there will be a 8K 60HZ upgrade. Its seems abit of a mess which is accurate at this point.
Typically, if it's in print on the official website, that's a better bet vs. "someone said" and "others said"

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480 zones on a 85 inch screen is pretty disappointing
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480 zones on a 85 inch screen is pretty disappointing
Agreed. I was hoping it would have had at least 700 zones. I mean my Sony 65Z9D has something like 650 zones (a true flagship). For a Samsung flagship 8K model I am a bit disappointed. I will still wait until actual production models are reviewed before I make a decision on whether or not to have this TV on my list of options to replace my current 84” LG TV. If it proves to be the best LCD LED 85” model available in 2019, I may buy one.

But with CES only months away, I will wait to see if any other TV maker shows a true flagship in the 85” range. Something with no light bleed, blooming, crushed blacks, or greyish blacks.
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Mark, I just bought a Sony xbr85x900f for a decent price, as an open box item. Unfortunately I have 1 day left on my return policy. Before this purchase, I was on the fence on whether to wait for the Samsung. In your opinion, is this worth the jump in price, if I were to upgrade? Is there a substantial difference in PQ quality?

Everyone says this is the best 85" TV, but in your opinion, is this the best LCD on the market, period?

How would you compare this to the Z9D? (I don't care about viewing angles or software or gaming lag - and have a relatively bright room)

I appreciate your feedback..
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Mark, I just bought a Sony xbr85x900f for a decent price, as an open box item. Unfortunately I have 1 day left on my return policy. Before this purchase, I was on the fence on whether to wait for the Samsung. In your opinion, is this worth the jump in price, if I were to upgrade? Is there a substantial difference in PQ quality?

Everyone says this is the best 85" TV, but in your opinion, is this the best LCD on the market, period?

How would you compare this to the Z9D? (I don't care about viewing angles or software or gaming lag - and have a relatively bright room)

I appreciate your feedback..
What can I say, I guess I think everybody is jumping the gun. It's too early to make a comparison like that, nobody's seen those two TVs side-by-side. The one TV the U.S. press saw, nobody had enough time with it and plus... on the one hand it's Samsung's chosen sample to show to all the press, so it's probably a "good copy" but on the flip side it's a TV that has not shipped yet, and that means the firmware is still effectively beta.

I've seen this whole drill before. The problem is, being an 85" TV that costs 15K, it's super unlikely this will end up in reviewer's homes/studios. So the depth of any review will be limited by that reality.

One thing I will say is if the room is relatively bright, I simply have not seen anything better than the anti-reflective screen coating Samsung uses. Other TVs look like mirrors in comparison, IMO (a touch of hyperbole, but the sentiment... true).

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I would imagine if theres going to be reviews there will be European reviews with the smaller sizes. Im sure Vincent ect might be able to get hold of a 65 or 75 inch model.
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Here's video review for the Q900


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I'm not making an argument for 8K, I'm just saying it's coming and it does not upset me. My personal reason to want 8K is digital photography, not movie watching.
I also use my TV as a PC monitor for photo editing and display. For me there's no comparison between reflective media and direct light images. My photos sing like they never did on paper. They're stunning enough on my 55" Sony, so the thought of huge HDR files displayed on an 8K HDR 85" screen is mind-boggling. Alas, photography is static, and I must forgo OLED with its burn-in. So, until that issue is fixed and 85" OLED arrives, I think I could live with this Samsung beast.

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