This is an OWNERS THREAD
: I’ve discovered a problem with my display that may be related to the delay that was experienced last fall in the delivery of 75” Z9F’s. I have one of very few delivered in September of 2018. I would not expect many of you to find this panel issue but as a precaution, I’d encourage you to look carefully. Read my post here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...l#post57933798
Update 2: 4/24/19
. Let me just say at this point that I’ve experienced the most confusing and frustrating response regarding a purchase of this significance ever. I’ll leave it at that for now and give Sony the opportunity to do the right thing. In the meantime I have to pay to have an authorized service center come to my home to dispute the Sony’ engineers “sight unseen” determination. I’m going to be honest and fair here. Whatever falls out I will share. They have put the burden on me 100% and I find that disturbing.
Update 3: 4/26/2019
Sony has agreed to dispatch a technician to look at my display. It’s taken some heavy lifting but this is a good step and I appreciate it. I will provide another update after their visit.
Update 4: 5/13/19
Resolved to my satisfaction.
Share your actual experience with the display or get information as a prospective buyer.
The intent of this thread:
In the spirit of keeping thread clean for owners and prospective owners, I want to emphasize that it’s primarily an “owners thread”. If you choose something else, post in that display thread, not here.
Goal of this thread:
1. Understand the display’s strengths and weaknesses
2. Understand user-options to maximize the display’s performance for your needs
3. Discuss technical details pertaining to performance characteristics of the Z9F specifically.
4. Discussion surrounding installation and setup.
5. Posting and discussion of relevant professional reviews
6. Posting personal reviews of the TV
7. Technical support recommendations
8. Problem solving.
9. Discussing if your Z9F performance is within other users spec.
10. Prospective owner? Ask questions of existing owners.
It’s not a comparison thread. It’s not a “I bought something else and here’s why it’s awesome” thread. It’s not a “bash Sony” thread.
Don’t respond to the stuff outside the box. Set phasers to “ignore”.
9/23/2018: VE SHOOTOUT DAY! With ALL things considered, the Z9F is a SERIOUS competitor for the 2018/2019 crown.
Shootout results: The top 2 sets were 65” Sony and LG OLED’s. The Z9F 65” finished with the other 2 “within the margin of error” so closely behind the OLED’s that with a few different test cases or sample videos, it could easily have won.
The 75” Z9F has less competition in it’s size class and certainly at it’s price. I remain convinced that the 75” Z9F is the best display in it’s size for 2018 (in a similar price bracket).
My 2 week assessment statement on the 75” Z9F: 9/22/2018
If I had to define the perfect application for the Z9F, it’s the ultimate (nearly perfect uniformity) “multipurpose, family room display that can be viewed from any reasonable angle providing a superb image in light and low-ambient conditions”. It holds it’s own is a theatrical setting but it will be beat on black level and the cinema bar thing will be a nag with some users.
I love this display and I have no regrets. If Sony could push out some kind of improvement relative to keeping the cinema bars darker during low APL/HDR viewing... it would be unbeatable overall.
Here we go. Picking it up tonite. Could be plugged in by 9pm. First impression within 24 hours. I’ve started this thread for the LCD Master Series. 9/8/2018
By October 1, 2018 this is going to exclusively be an OWNERS THREAD for the LCD version of the Master Series
. As of Sept 9, it’s me and a 75” Z9F. I’m posting impressions as I have them.
Here’s my 24 hour review as of 9/9/2018. Updated 9/13. My impression of this display has done nothing but improve. I’ve revised black bar performance to a solid 8 and bloom control to an 8 as well.
Current build version in pic below
The big achievement here by Sony is the virtual elimination of the LCD uniformity problem while delivering an outstanding performer for HDR. The color is so good, I’d almost be afraid to calibrate it.
Just scratching the surface. (All rating subject to change)
: Assuming there's an LED in the corners and you only count a corner LED for one axis the count is 17h x 17v for a total of 289
. That's my guesstimate for the 75". UPDATED: Might be 18 x 16 for a total of 288.
Make sure to go to the Home menu, settings and External Inputs, then HDMI signal format and set the input to use "enhanced 4k signal format" for 4k devices. It greatly improved the performance of my AppleTV.
There is a "dark" setting for DolbyVision (low light or dark room) and a "bright" setting for daytime use. Nice!
Netflix mode for DV is available and works GREAT! It’s only available as a picture mode on the Sony’s Netflix app. Not available with external players.
Sony should add the HDR mode being used to the popup "Display" information.
9/9/18: Neither the internal YouTube app or the (built-in Chromecast streaming YouTube HDR from another source) are supporting auto HDR at the moment. Both signal paths support HDR but the stream metadata does not appear to be communicating with the AutoHDR feature on the Sony. You can manually set the HDR space and colorspace and get the same result I get with a CC Ultra connected to an HDMI input (which works correctly).
The myriad of controls/settings on this display are mind-numbing. Figuring out the interplay of all of them is going to take some serious time. There are exhaustive “auto” settings that will have to be tested relative to what they do and how well they work.
Here's a little video of the performance of the Android interface
people seemed to be interested in.
9/9/2018: 75" inventory appears constrained. If this display is in your 2018 future you may want to dive in (especially if you're thinking about the 75") I can't imagine at this price that Sony is filling warehouses with them.
Firmware posted 10-3-2019