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hiperco 11-03-2018 01:08 PM

Official LG 86UK7570PUB 4K TV Owners Thread (No Price Talk)
 
This TV seems to be a late year upgrade to the 86UK6570PUB. Here is what I was told by LG:

"Let me provide some information in relation to the difference between the 86UK6570PUB and 86UK7570PUB TV models.

In response to this, please be advised that upon checking the specifications of both models, let me provide the list of their differences below.

•The 7570PUB has 4K Cinema HDR feature which provides clarity and fine picture details when the TV screen is viewed.
The 7570PUB has Local Dimming which makes the dark scenes as black as possible and light scenes as bright as needed. EDIT: NO LOCAL DIMMING :(
•The 7570PUB has Ultra Luminance which helps with the brightness of the image the TV displays.
•The 7570PUB comes with the Magic Remote while it is an optional accessory with the 6570PUB and can be purchased separately. "

I believe these both are array lit vs edge lit, which I guess makes the 86UK7570PUB have FALD? (!) NO LOCAL DIMMING :(

From what I can find right now, this may be a Costco exclusive.

Link to LG: https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-86UK7570PUB-4k-uhd-tv

NateDogg125 11-07-2018 02:18 PM

Yes the 7570 is FALD. I validated that by chatting with the LG chat folks. I also talked to their Tier2 phone support and they told me that it was 1000 nits.

hiperco 11-07-2018 07:20 PM

FALD from LG, interesting!!

I wish I could see one in person. This is a very interesting choice with the sale at Costco coming up. I had pretty much decided on an 82" NU8000, but now I am torn again....

VA_DaveB 11-08-2018 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiperco (Post 57076392)
FALD from LG, interesting!!

The LG SK9000 and LG SK9500 series are also IPS FALD TVs.

NateDogg125 11-08-2018 11:49 AM

The documentation so far is quite confusing.

If you look at the model number, it is the lower end UHD. If you look at the specs, it is equivalent to the Super UHD models.

Little things like:
1. It has 4K Cinema HDR not 4K Active HDR.
2. Ultra Luminance
3. I can't find FALD on a model without having Nano Cell technology.

Called my local Costco and the manager actually said Super UHD when he was looking it up in the computer.

Mixed bag and confusion as to what this really is.

VA_DaveB 11-08-2018 12:19 PM

Looks like you'll need an actual owner to confirm the configuration. And this is titled as a "Owner's Thread" so .........................

MiamiBourne 11-09-2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiperco (Post 57076392)
FALD from LG, interesting!!

I wish I could see one in person. This is a very interesting choice with the sale at Costco coming up. I had pretty much decided on an 82" NU8000, but now I am torn again....

Same here...well the TV was for my parents and I was set on recommending the 82" NU from Samsung but wondering if this LG is a better deal/TV?

dkfan9 11-09-2018 02:35 PM

Just a couple quick notes: Ultra Luiminance is also a feature on a number of the TVs in the 6500 line, including the 70" 6570, but not the 75 or 86. Also, on the 6500 page, in the Q&A for the 50" set, a used asked if the TV was FALD, and LG support replied no, the set has direct backlight with local dimming but not FALD, and did not disclose zones--which is sort of an ambiguous statement. MY guess is the FALD on the UK7570 is at best on level with the Vizio E series, or the LG UF8500 series--large zones which will certainly be better than no local dimming, but not performance on par with the SK9000. It may even be no better than edge dimming if the backlight is a number of large vertical LEDs, like this picture of the 75UK6570 implies--of course I'm just guessing based on a picture and a different size and higher model number may have a different backlight design. I would love to be wrong and this set be a giant SK9000 without nano-cell.

NateDogg125 11-11-2018 05:43 PM

Sale is on now....

JOESMUD 11-12-2018 04:56 PM

I am going to wait to hear from someone who actually sees this TV in person as I will be using it in a dedicated theater (replacing a 92" projector).

I spoke with LG support and they are saying the website is incorrect, this has "no local dimming" and they will be putting in a ticket to change it on the web

NateDogg125 11-12-2018 05:28 PM

LG told me directly and in chat that this has FALD.

VA_DaveB 11-12-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOESMUD (Post 57098810)
I am going to wait to hear from someone who actually sees this TV in person as I will be using it in a dedicated theater (replacing a 92" projector).

I spoke with LG support and they are saying the website is incorrect, this has "no local dimming" and they will be putting in a ticket to change it on the web

Typically these lower end TVs have "frame dimming" that dims the entire screen. As I posted earlier, the high-end LG SK9000 and LG SK9500 series are FALD. Then the mid-range SK8000 and UK7700 have edge dimming, while the lower-end UK6570 and below have no local dimming. The 86" UK7570 seems to be a holiday one off since no other sizes are listed on the LG website and could have custom specs for the warehouse clubs. If it doesn't have local dimming, it appears to be just a partial upgrade of the 86" UK6570 adding LG's 4K Cinema HDR and Ultra Luminance as mentioned in another post.

hiperco 11-12-2018 07:30 PM

I won't be surprised if it turns out that this TV doesn't have local dimming. Adding it at the same price point seems too good to be true :(

NateDogg125 11-14-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiperco (Post 57099424)
I won't be surprised if it turns out that this TV doesn't have local dimming. Adding it at the same price point seems too good to be true :(

Someone said that they were told the website was wrong about local dimming. Well the whole marketing team had to be wrong as well if they published this.

https://www.costco.com/wcsstore/Cost...Spec_Sheet.pdf

JOESMUD 11-15-2018 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57107456)
Quote:

Originally Posted by hiperco (Post 57099424)
I won't be surprised if it turns out that this TV doesn't have local dimming. Adding it at the same price point seems too good to be true [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

Someone said that they were told the website was wrong about local dimming. Well the whole marketing team had to be wrong as well if they published this.

https://www.costco.com/wcsstore/Cost...Spec_Sheet.pdf


I was the one who spoke with LG support, but I hadn’t seen this sheet. This looks promising.

The whole reason I was asking is I have a dedicated theater with almost no light so I don’t want to see a grey screen when it is supposed to be black. How good is local dimming if it isn’t full array?

Another bonus I think was just added to this is a free 3 year square trade warranty is now being added per the website today. I may just pull the trigger & see how it is. Wouldn’t be an issue to return at Costco

hiperco 11-15-2018 06:18 AM

I think you will be disappointed with a gray screen even with local dimming since this is an IPS panel. Look at rtings for reviews of LG sets with IPS and local dimming.

And the array size is likely large on this set (in other words not many zones).

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NateDogg125 11-15-2018 08:48 AM

Just had mine delivered. They had some poor guy out by himself. Had to ask me to help him carry it in.

Will set it up in the next day or so. Need to finish some other stuff first.

hiperco 11-15-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57112028)
Just had mine delivered. They had some poor guy out by himself. Had to ask me to help him carry it in.

Will set it up in the next day or so. Need to finish some other stuff first.

Get your priorities straight mister! [emoji1]

Dying to hear how this set looks, and whether it has local dimming, and if so how many zones.

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anthonymoody 11-15-2018 12:52 PM

Given the price, and history of similarly sized/priced models, I would be stunned if this were anything other than a single zone. It may be backlit as opposed to edge lit, as that's been a not-uncommon set up at this size, but...yeah.

spam70 11-15-2018 03:10 PM

Dell has 6570 for almost $700 cheaper.. Is the difference between the that big/worth it?

TIA

TNT13 11-15-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spam70 (Post 57114224)
Dell has 6570 for almost $700 cheaper.. Is the difference between the that big/worth it?

TIA

The rebates and gift card are too much of a hassle for me. Plus I believe you get a 7 year warranty with Costco if you buy with their CC. If local dimming works, this is the TV I want. Plus you get the magic remote as well. Also, if there's an issue, I can return it to a local Costco, I won't need to worry about packing and shipping it back.

Oph135 11-15-2018 06:30 PM

Yeah I second this. Lol.

Is anyone considering this vs the Costco’s Samsung 82” QLED Model QN82Q65FNBXZA? If so which one might be better as far as quality is concerned?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiperco (Post 57113192)
Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57112028)
Just had mine delivered. They had some poor guy out by himself. Had to ask me to help him carry it in.

Will set it up in the next day or so. Need to finish some other stuff first.

Get your priorities straight mister! [emoji1]

Dying to hear how this set looks, and whether it has local dimming, and if so how many zones.

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NateDogg125 11-15-2018 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oph135 (Post 57115028)
Yeah I second this. Lol.

Is anyone considering this vs the Costco’s Samsung 82” QLED Model QN82Q65FNBXZA? If so which one might be better as far as quality is concerned?

I have it on the wall, but watching football. Blacks are black not gray. Not OLED but nice. Just broadcast 1080i/720p content so far.

I'll switch to some Dolby Vision Netflix after the game and check out that.

Not sure how to tell number of zones.

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NateDogg125 11-15-2018 07:27 PM

Also, lights are off and it doesn't look gray.

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hiperco 11-15-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57115198)
I have it on the wall, but watching football. Blacks are black not gray. Not OLED but nice. Just broadcast 1080i/720p content so far.

I'll switch to some Dolby Vision Netflix after the game and check out that.

Not sure how to tell number of zones.

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Zone test:
Hurry up ;)

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Sbeezy 11-15-2018 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57115208)
Also, lights are off and it doesn't look gray.

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did you get it delivered by CEVA? Mine is set to come Saturday but I’ve heard horror stories about their delivery. I don’t want a broken tv

NateDogg125 11-15-2018 07:47 PM

I ran the YouTube video but it doesn't make sense to me. How is that CV punting the zones?

It was CEVA, the driver was by himself and he asked me to help carry it from the truck.

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NateDogg125 11-15-2018 07:47 PM

Counting the zones *

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Sbeezy 11-15-2018 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57115268)
Counting the zones *

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Are you happy with the tv from the minimum you’ve used it? I’ve been looking forward to this tv for a while

hiperco 11-15-2018 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateDogg125 (Post 57115268)
Counting the zones *

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The screen in the region of the box will typically will turn from black to gray as the box moves from one zone into another. If you're not seeing this maybe try a brighter setting. If you're still not seeing it then it may be that this TV does not have local dimming...

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