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Alright ....who broke the main 900F thread?....wouldn't open last night and still wont.

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Alright ....who broke the main 900F thread?....wouldn't open last night and still wont.
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I see that now thanks....huh....something new?

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No. Something broke, I'm always signed in & it was borked. I had to re sign in.
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Hi everybody, today I made hcfr calibration on my 65 inch sony 9005 (which is the europian model of x900f)
The best results in calibration was made with LCD RG Phosphor display type on hcfr (with default non refresh display on red colour Delta E was about 4. With Colourchecker Calmansg 96 colours delta E was 0.96 with Phosphor display type. Grayscale dE was 0.12, contrast 3611.
I was wondering how to make HDR calibration with HCFR, any ideas?
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Other settings were left off...things such as advanced contrast enhancer live color and black adjust are "effects", not adjustments...think of them like the photo filters on an iPhone camera.

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hello, what settings you recommend for shows like "the walking dead" on netflix. with sdr settings, i see lot of noise, if you see on sky and faces.
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hello, what settings you recommend for shows like "the walking dead" on netflix. with sdr settings, i see lot of noise, if you see on sky and faces.
I don't think your seeing noise per say, but rather Netflix's added grain to it's stream, "The Ranch" is this way as well.
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Captin is correct...Netflix ADDS fake noise they call film grain, to try and make their shows shot on video look like old movies shot on film. It's especially annoying on HDR, as they only add the "Grain" to the highlights, so the brighter the scene is, the more noise...in actual video, you typically see noise or grain in the shadows first, the highlights are least affected.

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Captin is correct...Netflix ADDS fake noise they call film grain, to try and make their shows shot on video look like old movies shot on film. It's especially annoying on HDR, as they only add the "Grain" to the highlights, so the brighter the scene is, the more noise...in actual video, you typically see noise or grain in the shadows first, the highlights are least affected.

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i already using your new posted settings, those sdr and hdr looks best to me. just wanted to check if i am missing anything else.

anyways thanks for providing really good settings.
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TWD has been loaded with film grain/noise from season 2 onward. This was a creative decision and also a cost cutting measure. Go back and compare the difference from season 1 to season 2. The difference is staggering to say the least. Season 1 cost AMC a fortune and almost got the show canceled.


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TWD has been loaded with film grain/noise from season 2 onward. This was a creative decision and also a cost cutting measure. Go back and compare the difference from season 1 to season 2. The difference is staggering to say the least. Season 1 cost AMC a fortune and almost got the show canceled.


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Anybody have any PS4 Game Mode settings? Thanks!
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Any xbox or ps4 settings will be nice.I just got 900f today will be hooking it up tomorrow it's going be replacing a 2016 vizio p 55 c1 had to many issues with this tv so hopefully sony can fix my issues.
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Any xbox or ps4 settings will be nice.I just got 900f today will be hooking it up tomorrow it's going be replacing a 2016 vizio p 55 c1 had to many issues with this tv so hopefully sony can fix my issues.
My bedroom 49 inch 900F gets a lot brighter than my main P65-C1.

The P55 is an IPS panel, so the 900F with a VA panel will have deeper blacks but a more limited viewing angle. Good luck.
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For HDR gaming, see the HDR settings in the link below (my signature)

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Sony X900F SDR and HDR Calibrations https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...l#post57551552
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Gotta say that I'm loving this TV more & more with each passing day
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What about SDR (base PS4) gaming?
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This looks great! What settings are you using and what's your bias lighting setup? Thanks!
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Tag66 Family Voted Settings

After spending much time researching, reading, and experimenting, figured I'd post my settings here in case they'd benefit others. And also to have a place to see them again should I accidentally change and lose them
To start with a disclaimer - By no means am I a professional calibrator and it's high unlikely that my settings will look pretty on any calibration graph. Since setting up my 65X900F back in November I've tried at least a dozen different settings from here, Rtings, CNET, and several other sites. I don't recall where I found my current settings, but they have since been tweaked over time.
Each time I try new settings, I load them up into a new preset, leaving the current settings alone. With my wife and 2 teenagers we then watch a network cable channel as well as a Netflix or Prime HDR program and I switch between the current settings and new settings. The current settings have won unanimously every time. That means perfect calibration to me.
As for our preference, I guess you can say we like some "pop". Deep colors, decent saturation, but nothing too crazy or fake. Definitely prefer white over the yellow-white that we see with some of the calibrated settings.
We use the below settings for cable (output set to 1080i), Netflix, Prime, and Plex. For movies I only change the Motion to TrueCinema to avoid any soap opera effect. For Xbox we use Game mode with similar color settings.

PICTURE
Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Picture Mode: Off
Brightness: 16
Color: 56
Light Sensor: Off

BRIGHTNESS
Brightness: 16
Contrast: Max
Gamma: -1
Black Level: 50
Black Adjust: Medium
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Medium
Auto Local Dimming: High
X-Tended Dynamic Range: Medium

COLOR
Color: 56
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm
Adv. Color Temperature - All default
Live Color: Low

CLARITY
Sharpness: 53
Reality Creation: Auto
Resolution: 65
Mastered in 4K: Off
Random noise reduction: Low
Digital noise reduction: Low
Smooth Gradiation: Low

MOTION
Motionflow: Custom
Smoothness: 3
Clearness: 1
Cinemotion: Medium

VIDEO
HDR Mode: Auto
HDMI Video Range: Full
Color Space: Auto
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This looks great! What settings are you using and what's your bias lighting setup? Thanks!
Thanks! The photos were taken on an iPhone, looks even better in real life!

My bias lighting is just a simple pretty cheap 158" LED strip. It's nothing close to what purists will use, as far as true 6500 white & all that. Here's the link to the product that I bought: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071RRPJ56...S4M?pldnSite=1

My settings are for a dark room setup, & the only light that's ever on is the bias lighting. These settings are also for HDR content which was playing when I took the photos.

Picture Mode: Cinema Home
Auto picture mode: Off
Light Sensor: Off (defaults to off for HDR/DV)

Brightness
Brightness: Max (only because I have clearness maxed out)
Contrast: 86 (this defaults to max for DV, & I leave it as such when DV content is playing)
Gamma: 0 (user preference)
Black Level: 50
Adv. Contrast: Off
Auto Local Dimming: High
X-tended Dynamic Range: High

Color
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color temp: Expert 1 (user preference)
Adv. Color Temp: Default
Live Color: Off

Clarity
Sharpness: 50
Reality Creation: Manual (user preference)
Resolution: Max (user preference)
Mastered in 4K: On
Random Noise reduction: Auto (user preference)
Digital Noise reduction: Off
Smooth Gradation: Low

Motion
Motionflow: Custom (user preference)
Smoothness: Max (user preference)
Clearness: Max (user preference)
Cinemotion: High

Video Options
HDMI Video Range: Auto
HDR Mode: Auto
Color Space: Auto

My SDR settings are the exact same, only difference is that I actually have the "Light Sensor" turned on

These settings are also the same when I watch actual Blu-rays with the exception here is that I use Cinema Pro since the tone mapping is different. It's been my experience that Cinema Pro looks better on Blu-rays whereas Cinema Home is better suited for streaming/OTA/Cable, but this of course is just my opinion.
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Very nice, thanks for sharing. It’s actually hard to make this set look bad imo. Pretty much all the settings I’ve tried looked pleasing. I settled on something similar to Captin Crunch, with a few tweaks of my own. I’m still tinkering though.

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I have a few questions about settings. I'm sorry for my ignorance. I've tried searching but i think the terms are so common in these threads that its hard to find a post that explains it.

What do these terms mean? I'm trying to understand them so I know what to set them at:

"Reality Creation"
"Motion Flow"
"Cinemotion"
"ClearAudio+"

Do I want to select Hdmi signal format for apple TV, xbox one x and ps4 pro to standard or enhanced?

Thanks for your help with the settings!
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Do I want to select Hdmi signal format for apple TV, xbox one x and ps4 pro to standard or enhanced?

Thanks for your help with the settings!
See the glossary in the first post of this thread. Set all your ports to enhanced, why cripple their bandwidth.
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See the glossary in the first post of this thread. Set all your ports to enhanced, why cripple their bandwidth.
I kind of thought the same thing...but why even make it an option then? And why have it defaulted to standard? Seems odd, no?
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See the glossary in the first post of this thread. Set all your ports to enhanced, why cripple their bandwidth.
Haha..thanks for telling me about the glossary! All of the searches i did were for the terms themselves and obviously that didn't show up. I appreciate it!
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I kind of thought the same thing...but why even make it an option then? And why have it defaulted to standard? Seems odd, no?
Well I guess it is possible that some SD devices and 1.4 cables might have issues with enhanced (HDR capable) ports but I've never encountered it. Also I use Monoprice 18 Gbps premium certified cables even on my non HDR satellite receiver. Cheap future proofing.
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Still curious what the setting "ClearAudio+" is for. I didn't see it from the link on the first page. I know most of these settings are for picture settings, but is there a quick explanation what this audio setting does? I have the tv connected to a receiver via ARC on HDMI 3
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Still curious what the setting "ClearAudio+" is for. I didn't see it from the link on the first page. I know most of these settings are for picture settings, but is there a quick explanation what this audio setting does? I have the tv connected to a receiver via ARC on HDMI 3
Does it even work when you have the tv connected to a receiver via ARC?
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We have owned the 85" 900F for about a week. Such a huge improvement to the 900B.

I are starting to watch UHD shows using the built in APP. Does anyone have suggestions for the Picture Settings for APPs? Or is everyone using the same settings as for the HDMI?

Also, while watching a DV program on Amazon, I notice a flicker from a cool hue to warm hue. Is there a setting that adjusts this??

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We have owned the 85" 900F for about a week. Such a huge improvement to the 900B.

I are starting to watch UHD shows using the built in APP. Does anyone have suggestions for the Picture Settings for APPs? Or is everyone using the same settings as for the HDMI?

Also, while watching a DV program on Amazon, I notice a flicker from a cool hue to warm hue. Is there a setting that adjusts this??
If it is truly a Dolby Vision program, it has dynamic metadata that adjusts the picture from scene to scene.

So to answer your question there is no fix other than watching HDR aka HDR10 programs with static metadata.

The Apps should use the same settings as other ports. SDR, HDR10, DV and Games.
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