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As far as I can tell, both Cinemas and Experts are identical, I believe they just wanted to give you the option of two configurable profiles, and changed the name slightly to differentiate them. If you put the same settings into each one, then toggle back and forth, you will not see any change at all to the picture.

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Excellent. Thank you.
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As far as I can tell, both Cinemas and Experts are identical, I believe they just wanted to give you the option of two configurable profiles, and changed the name slightly to differentiate them. If you put the same settings into each one, then toggle back and forth, you will not see any change at all to the picture.

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One more question if you don't mind. If I put in all your settings and something doesn't look right I can just use the reset picture settings and it will change everything back, right?
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One more question if you don't mind. If I put in all your settings and something doesn't look right I can just use the reset picture settings and it will change everything back, right?
I think the picture mode reset resets EVERY MODE on the selected input.
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As far as I can tell, both Cinemas and Experts are identical, I believe they just wanted to give you the option of two configurable profiles, and changed the name slightly to differentiate them. If you put the same settings into each one, then toggle back and forth, you will not see any change at all to the picture.

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Sorry for all the questions. What should sharpness be at? And should I use any of the clarity or motion settings. Thanks.
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Sorry for all the questions. What should sharpness be at? And should I use any of the clarity or motion settings. Thanks.

There is no real answer for this question,Its up to you and your eyes to see what looks better and what's not.I have mine at 55.
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Sorry for all the questions. What should sharpness be at? And should I use any of the clarity or motion settings. Thanks.
Personally, I leave sharpness at default 50 (4K content is super super sharp at 50), and mostly leave reality creation off for 1080p. Reality Creation is the upscaling sharpening that the TV uses a smarter detail algorithm to enlarge SD, 720p, and 1080 up to the panels native 4K pixels. For SD or 720p I will typically just set reality to AUTO for a little better image. If you crank each of those settings to MAX, you can see how they both add sharpening, but in a slightly different way.

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I would suggest to set sharpness at 53 and reality creation at 67 but only with content ALREADY good to make them exquisitely better. With content not that good you can lower the RC at not more than 35 or even auto. In other words the more the content is good the more you can push up the RC with adding artifacts.
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I meant without adding artifacts
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Hello everyone!


Been lurking for quite some time. Thanks for all the infos so far. I'd be glad to have some advices for my setup.


I play everything through my Nvidia ShieldTV (mostly HDR 4k movies + HD 1080p movies and tv shows from my PC) using Kodi. I also use my tv provider app to play HD tv channels (mostly for sports).
What profile should I use and which settings do your recommend?


Thanks a lot!
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Hello everyone!


Been lurking for quite some time. Thanks for all the infos so far. I'd be glad to have some advices for my setup.


I play everything through my Nvidia ShieldTV (mostly HDR 4k movies + HD 1080p movies and tv shows from my PC) using Kodi. I also use my tv provider app to play HD tv channels (mostly for sports).
What profile should I use and which settings do your recommend?


Thanks a lot!
If you want something to play with right away, I have SDR and HDR settings and calibrations in my signature link

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New calibrated BT.1886 and HDR settings for the X900F. If unfamiliar with BT.1886, see link at bottom of post.


SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19 
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2

SDR BT.1886 2.4 gamma
Cinema Home
Expert 2
Brightness 3 (for 100cd/m)
Contrast Max
Gamma Min
Black level 50
LD user preference
X-tended not recommended for SDR
Color 51
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -4
B-Gain -6
R-Bias 13
G-Bias 14
B-Bias 9

10 Point Expert 2
Point 1 19 18 8
Point 2 5 5 2
Point 3 -2 -1 0
Point 4 0 -1 -1
Point 5 -2 -2 -1
Point 6 -3 -3 -1
Point 7 -2 -3 0
Point 8 -2 -2 -1
Point 9 -1 -1 0
Point 10 0 -1 2

HDR10 (Dolby Vision set contrast to Max)
Cinema Pro
Expert 1
Brightness Max *
Contrast 92 *
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High *
X-tended Medium *
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -5
B-Gain -5
R-Bias -2
G-Bias 2
B-Bias -5

10 Point Expert 1
Point 1 2 0 -5
Point 2 -6 -5 -1
Point 3 -7 -7 -6
Point 4 -7 -8 -8
Point 5 -6 -4 -4
Point 6 -4 -4 -4
Point 7 0 0 0
Point 8 0 0 -4
Point 9 0 0 -2
Point 10 0 0 0

*These settings combined as specified, result in most accurate tone mapping and up to almost 800nit peak HDR brightness. Other combinations of these settings resulted in less peak brightness, and other luminance short comings. X-tended at High for instance produced less peak luminance, and actually got darker at 100%, dropping in brightness from 80%. HCFR for HDR settings were tested at 1000, 2000, and 4000 MaxCLL, curves tracked well in all, the variations are only in the rolloff which cannot be adjusted.

http://www.spectracal.com/Documents/...rs/BT.1886.pdf

https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r...3-I!!PDF-E.pdf
These settings work GREAT with my Sony 65inch X-900F. Using his 10point calibration with his 2point calibration using his bottom HDR/Dolby Vision settings. I'll post what I have that he did not include Black Adjust is OFF, Adv. Contrast Enhancer is OFF, Live Color is Off, Reality Creation is set to Manual at 25, Random Noice Reduction is OFF, Digital Noise Reduction is OFF, Smooth Gradation is OFF, Motionflow is set to custom, Smoothness is at 3 for normal viewing, (Sports is at max) Clearness is at 0,
Video Options is all at Auto.
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These settings work GREAT with my Sony 65inch X-900F. Using his 10point calibration with his 2point calibration using his bottom HDR/Dolby Vision settings. I'll post what I have that he did not include Black Adjust is OFF, Adv. Contrast Enhancer is OFF, Live Color is Off, Reality Creation is set to Manual at 25, Random Noice Reduction is OFF, Digital Noise Reduction is OFF, Smooth Gradation is OFF, Motionflow is set to custom, Smoothness is at 3 for normal viewing, (Sports is at max) Clearness is at 0,
Video Options is all at Auto.
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SORRY, YEAH, ANYTHING NOT SPECIFIED IS OFF.

And give Smooth Gradiation a try on LOW for HDR...it will eliminate most fine banding in the blue sky, works really well on gaming banding as well. It blurs SDR, but 4K on these sets is so sharp you cant see any detail loss from it.

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[quote=Anderegg;57551552]New calibrated BT.1886 and HDR settings for the X900F. If unfamiliar with BT.1886, see link at bottom of post.


SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19 
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2

SDR BT.1886 2.4 gamma
Cinema Home
Expert 2
Brightness 3 (for 100cd/m)
Contrast Max
Gamma Min
Black level 50
LD user preference
X-tended not recommended for SDR
Color 51
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -4
B-Gain -6
R-Bias 13
G-Bias 14
B-Bias 9

10 Point Expert 2
Point 1 19 18 8
Point 2 5 5 2
Point 3 -2 -1 0
Point 4 0 -1 -1
Point 5 -2 -2 -1
Point 6 -3 -3 -1
Point 7 -2 -3 0
Point 8 -2 -2 -1
Point 9 -1 -1 0
Point 10 0 -1 2

HDR10 (Dolby Vision set contrast to Max)
Cinema Pro
Expert 1
Brightness Max *
Contrast 92 *
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High *
X-tended Medium *
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -5
B-Gain -5
R-Bias -2
G-Bias 2
B-Bias -5

10 Point Expert 1
Point 1 2 0 -5
Point 2 -6 -5 -1
Point 3 -7 -7 -6
Point 4 -7 -8 -8
Point 5 -6 -4 -4
Point 6 -4 -4 -4
Point 7 0 0 0
Point 8 0 0 -4
Point 9 0 0 -2
Point 10 0 0 0

*These settings combined as specified, result in most accurate tone mapping and up to almost 800nit peak HDR brightness. Other combinations of these settings resulted in less peak brightness, and other luminance short comings. X-tended at High for instance produced less peak luminance, and actually got darker at 100%, dropping in brightness from 80%. HCFR for HDR settings were tested at 1000, 2000, and 4000 MaxCLL, curves tracked well in all, the variations are only in the rolloff which cannot be adjusted.



Hi there, greetings from Brazil. I recently found out about this forum and I would like to get some help on how to interprete the settings you posted here, since Im a complete layman. I mainly use the tv for cable tv, hdr gaming/ps4 pro, netflix and a few other apps Kody, Plex and Vlc, I would like to know which setting would be more suitable for each of them since I am not sure I got it right. Your first settings here SDR/HDR power law gamma is suitable for cable tv and hdr gaming? What about the cinema home, where could I apply it? One more question, when you say Cinema Pro for HDR/DB mode, how can i change the picture mode since its greyed out? I know there have been similar questions in the forum but I thought Id ask you directly.
Thanks in advance,

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Hey Paul, I decided to try your 2 & 10pt settings on Cinema Home & Expert 2 since I have @CaptinCrunch 2pt settings on Cinema Pro and I like them with a +1 Gamma

My question is I seem to be losing shadow detail if I decrease brightness aka backlight from Max to a more normal 12 for SDR (I can see its still there) and changing the Gamma doesn't seem to help. I guess I'll have to wear shades until my eyes adjust. Any ideas? TIA.
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Hey Paul, I decided to try your 2 & 10pt settings on Cinema Home & Expert 2 since I have @CaptinCrunch 2pt settings on Cinema Pro and I like them with a +1 Gamma

My question is I seem to be losing shadow detail if I decrease brightness aka backlight from Max to a more normal 12 for SDR (I can see its still there) and changing the Gamma doesn't seem to help. I guess I'll have to wear shades until my eyes adjust. Any ideas? TIA.
When you increase backlight, the gamma is brighter across the range, and also your black level will rise from backlight bleed. If you want to try to lift the blacks, test out the black level by increasing it from the default 50.

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Maybe I am just not smart but how do you get to the 10 point settings. I only see the 2?
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Contrast enhancer is on on my set. I have noticed this feature gives boost in contrast a bit without black crush. But only in Cinema Home and cinema pro modes. It was so on x900e model too.
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New calibrated BT.1886 and HDR settings for the X900F. If unfamiliar with BT.1886, see link at bottom of post.


SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19 
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2

SDR BT.1886 2.4 gamma
Cinema Home
Expert 2
Brightness 3 (for 100cd/m)
Contrast Max
Gamma Min
Black level 50
LD user preference
X-tended not recommended for SDR
Color 51
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -4
B-Gain -6
R-Bias 13
G-Bias 14
B-Bias 9

10 Point Expert 2
Point 1 19 18 8
Point 2 5 5 2
Point 3 -2 -1 0
Point 4 0 -1 -1
Point 5 -2 -2 -1
Point 6 -3 -3 -1
Point 7 -2 -3 0
Point 8 -2 -2 -1
Point 9 -1 -1 0
Point 10 0 -1 2

HDR10 (Dolby Vision set contrast to Max)
Cinema Pro
Expert 1
Brightness Max *
Contrast 92 *
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High *
X-tended Medium *
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -5
B-Gain -5
R-Bias -2
G-Bias 2
B-Bias -5

10 Point Expert 1
Point 1 2 0 -5
Point 2 -6 -5 -1
Point 3 -7 -7 -6
Point 4 -7 -8 -8
Point 5 -6 -4 -4
Point 6 -4 -4 -4
Point 7 0 0 0
Point 8 0 0 -4
Point 9 0 0 -2
Point 10 0 0 0

*These settings combined as specified, result in most accurate tone mapping and up to almost 800nit peak HDR brightness. Other combinations of these settings resulted in less peak brightness, and other luminance short comings. X-tended at High for instance produced less peak luminance, and actually got darker at 100%, dropping in brightness from 80%. HCFR for HDR settings were tested at 1000, 2000, and 4000 MaxCLL, curves tracked well in all, the variations are only in the rolloff which cannot be adjusted.

http://www.spectracal.com/Documents/...rs/BT.1886.pdf

https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r...3-I!!PDF-E.pdf
Why are your 2-point adjustments so extreme? Should we be avoiding your setting due to panel issues with your set?
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SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19 
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2
It looks fantastic, but max contrast in HDR games seems to destroy every details in bright objects, like clouds.
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SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19&#160;
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2
It looks fantastic, but max contrast in HDR games seems to destroy every details in bright objects, like clouds.
Hi, do you use his 2 point and 10 point settings? Thanks
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Yes, I do, and changing the in-game white level settings helps a little, but the highlights are still blown.
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New calibrated BT.1886 and HDR settings for the X900F. If unfamiliar with BT.1886, see link at bottom of post.


SDR/HDR 2.2 Power Law gamma Calibration (generic sRGB)
Good for HDR gaming, Sports, and other Live TV content
Custom
Warm
Brightness 3 (HDR Max)
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High
X-tended Off (HDR Medium/High)
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain -2
G-Gain -8
B-Gain -19 
R-Bias -12
G-Bias -11
B-Bias -17

10 Point
Point 1 7 7 6
Point 2 4 3 0
Point 3 0 0 -2
Point 4 2 1 0
Point 5 0 -1 1
Point 6 -1 -1 1
Point 7 -1 -1 0
Point 8 0 0 0
Point 9 0 0 0
Point 10 1 0 2

SDR BT.1886 2.4 gamma
Cinema Home
Expert 2
Brightness 3 (for 100cd/m)
Contrast Max
Gamma Min
Black level 50
LD user preference
X-tended not recommended for SDR
Color 51
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -4
B-Gain -6
R-Bias 13
G-Bias 14
B-Bias 9

10 Point Expert 2
Point 1 19 18 8
Point 2 5 5 2
Point 3 -2 -1 0
Point 4 0 -1 -1
Point 5 -2 -2 -1
Point 6 -3 -3 -1
Point 7 -2 -3 0
Point 8 -2 -2 -1
Point 9 -1 -1 0
Point 10 0 -1 2

HDR10 (Dolby Vision set contrast to Max)
Cinema Pro
Expert 1
Brightness Max *
Contrast 92 *
Gamma 0
Black level 50
LD High *
X-tended Medium *
Color 50
Hue 0

2 Point
R-Gain Max
G-Gain -5
B-Gain -5
R-Bias -2
G-Bias 2
B-Bias -5

10 Point Expert 1
Point 1 2 0 -5
Point 2 -6 -5 -1
Point 3 -7 -7 -6
Point 4 -7 -8 -8
Point 5 -6 -4 -4
Point 6 -4 -4 -4
Point 7 0 0 0
Point 8 0 0 -4
Point 9 0 0 -2
Point 10 0 0 0

*These settings combined as specified, result in most accurate tone mapping and up to almost 800nit peak HDR brightness. Other combinations of these settings resulted in less peak brightness, and other luminance short comings. X-tended at High for instance produced less peak luminance, and actually got darker at 100%, dropping in brightness from 80%. HCFR for HDR settings were tested at 1000, 2000, and 4000 MaxCLL, curves tracked well in all, the variations are only in the rolloff which cannot be adjusted.
Any advice on which setting to use for SDR gaming? Would you use the same settings as what you suggested for HDR Gaming (2.2 gamma), or the standard SDR settings (2.4 gamma)?

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Maybe I am just not smart but how do you get to the 10 point settings. I only see the 2?
Go to where you see the 2 point Gain and Bias...the very bottom of the menu is the 10 points called "Color gamma adjustment points". Make sure you select Expert 1 2 or Warm etc prior to changing anything in the 10 point gamma, as there is only one 10 point set per named color temp saved in the TV. Highlight Color gamma adjustment points to select points 1 through 10.

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Why are your 2-point adjustments so extreme? Should we be avoiding your setting due to panel issues with your set?
They is what they is...I've seen variations in X900F's that require even more extreme adjustment, so mine would probably be average. The rtings settings on my TV are way way off...also, the extremes you see are mostly gamma curve, the X900F's all seem to have similar color performance, so white balance in general should be good for all sharing of settings.

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It looks fantastic, but max contrast in HDR games seems to destroy every details in bright objects, like clouds.
Contrast of 92 tames HDR highlights, but you loose maybe a little SDR dynamic range. The separate HDR10 setting is best for HDR content, and I use it (the 2 and 10 points) in Game picture mode for Forza Horizon 4 which has a lot of clouds and sun

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Yes, I do, and changing the in-game white level settings helps a little, but the highlights are still blown.
In Forza Horizon 4 HDR, the brightness slider with 2.2 gamma says I am able to see 700-800nit, but my HDR10 settings, the in game slider says my TV is able to handle 1200nit, so I would use the HDR10 settings if highlights are a big issue.

The "experts" over at Calman say that Sony TV's cannot be calibrated for HDR, and that Sony "tone maps" 2.2 power law gamma for HDR. I don't buy that, so I provide a calibrated HDR set, but for those that want to go with Calman 2.2, then you can have that option.
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Go to where you see the 2 point Gain and Bias...the very bottom of the menu is the 10 points called "Color gamma adjustment points". Make sure you select Expert 1 2 or Warm etc prior to changing anything in the 10 point gamma, as there is only one 10 point set per named color temp saved in the TV. Highlight Color gamma adjustment points to select points 1 through 10.



They is what they is...I've seen variations in X900F's that require even more extreme adjustment, so mine would probably be average. The rtings settings on my TV are way way off...also, the extremes you see are mostly gamma curve, the X900F's all seem to have similar color performance, so white balance in general should be good for all sharing of settings.



Contrast of 92 tames HDR highlights, but you loose maybe a little SDR dynamic range. The separate HDR10 setting is best for HDR content, and I use it (the 2 and 10 points) in Game picture mode for Forza Horizon 4 which has a lot of clouds and sun



In Forza Horizon 4 HDR, the brightness slider with 2.2 gamma says I am able to see 700-800nit, but my HDR10 settings, the in game slider says my TV is able to handle 1200nit, so I would use the HDR10 settings if highlights are a big issue.

The "experts" over at Calman say that Sony TV's cannot be calibrated for HDR, and that Sony "tone maps" 2.2 power law gamma for HDR. I don't buy that, so I provide a calibrated HDR set, but for those that want to go with Calman 2.2, then you can have that option.
Thank you!

Your HDR10 settings look fantastic, whites are no longer bluish, and there are no issues with the highlights .

I'm using your "BT.1886 2.4 gamma settings" for 1080p movies and non 4K-HDR Netflix, your "HDR10 settings" for HDR games and 4K-HDR/DV movies, and your "2.2 Power Law gamma" for SDR games and regular PC usage.

Everything looks great, thanks again!
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Hi Anderegg,


Thanks again for all your help in this thread (and the other X900F one!).


Is it a limitation of this unit that on, say, the YouTube app, SDR and HDR content share the same settings? I also have an LG B7 and it stores separate settings.


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Hi Anderegg,


Thanks again for all your help in this thread (and the other X900F one!).


Is it a limitation of this unit that on, say, the YouTube app, SDR and HDR content share the same settings? I also have an LG B7 and it stores separate settings.


Thanks!
It is not possible for the TV to switch to separate picture modes when it detects HDR, so it is up to the viewer to switch to their HDR mode settings when they wish to watch HDR. ALL picture modes, when hit with a non Dolby Vision HDR10 signal, will activate a few HDR settings such as brightness and I think gamma? If you adjust these settings while in HDR mode, such as brightness, it will retain that subsetting the next time HDR mode is activated.

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Awaiting delivery of the 85X900F Besides firmware updates, any other recommend settings?
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See the link in my signature for SDR and HDR calibrations :-)


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Maybe a stupid question...

How do I set the picture mode to HDR10 to adjust those settings? If it helps, I have an Apple TV 4k and a Sony UBP-X700. I realize I can set the Dolby Vison settings by turning on Dobly Vision on the Apple TV...

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I’m in a predicament. Long story short, I returned an LG B8 for a fear of burn in and bought one of these. I cannot get the picture to look nearly as good as what that LG did. Granted, that was an OLED, but the source was still basic cable on both of these TVs and they both look drastically different. Not to mention, Dolby Vision looks awful on this TV compared to the LG. I’m not trying to knock this TV or the people who like it, I want to like this TV and I brought it home because of the fear of burn in with the LG. But a week in and I honestly miss the LG. What’s going on?
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