Vizio Going All-In on Quantum Dots at CES 2019 - Page 14 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 172Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #391 of 482 Old 05-21-2019, 10:00 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
PlanetAVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin TX USA
Posts: 2,792
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1783 Post(s)
Liked: 1393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewtato View Post
The problem is that FALD zone count matters very little in comparison to the algorithm and processing power. This is why Sony and Samsung, even though have fewer dimming zones, have significantly better local dimming overall. Samsungs new Q70 has a paltry 48 zones, but has excellent local dimming with almost no blooming. Seems like Vizio is just throwing more zones in without perfecting the software portion of it. Let's hope that works.

The most impressive thing about this set is the brightness. It still probably won't be able to go head to head with Sony or Samsung in terms of raw performance or contrast, but could offer previously unseen levels of brightness for HDR content.
The 2018 PQuantum beat every Sony/Samsung LCD for contrast ratio except for the Q9FN. The PQX should be similar. Blooming on the other hand is a concern. We'll see.
PlanetAVS is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #392 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 01:36 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
krholmberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,321
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 192 Post(s)
Liked: 85
From the CES reports it seemed like an 85" model wasn't ruled out, just not announced. Has anyone heard any rumors of a 85" PQX? I'm thinking it won't happen but it will be nice!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Krister
krholmberg is offline  
post #393 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 03:41 AM
Newbie
 
Paul in Maryland's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by krholmberg View Post
From the CES reports it seemed like an 85" model wasn't ruled out, just not announced. Has anyone heard any rumors of a 85" PQX? I'm thinking it won't happen but it will be nice!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
I read an article yesterday (somewhere) that said the 85-incher won't be released this year. The wording led me to believe it will come next year, in time for the Summer Olympics in Japan.
krholmberg likes this.
Paul in Maryland is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #394 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 06:24 AM
Member
 
as2onish's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 48
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by krholmberg View Post
From the CES reports it seemed like an 85" model wasn't ruled out, just not announced. Has anyone heard any rumors of a 85" PQX?
The CNET video said it won't be coming out this year.
krholmberg likes this.
as2onish is online now  
post #395 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 07:08 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
DFul4d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,062
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I am considering purchasing the 75" Quantum X, but the height listed in the specs sheet seems off. I think it would barely fit above my sonos playbar on my mantle with my current wall mount.

The listed dimensions of the 2019 models are:
2019 P Quantum X - 65.72” x 39.18” x 2.65”
2019 P Quanutm - 65.76" x 37.59" x 2.65"

Despite the bezel being very small, the height listed is a larger number than the regular 75" 2019 P series (and last year's 75" P series.)

That 39.18 number can't be right, right?
DFul4d is offline  
post #396 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 08:01 AM
Advanced Member
 
thunderbird1100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 293 Post(s)
Liked: 199
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlanetAVS View Post
The 2018 PQuantum beat every Sony/Samsung LCD for contrast ratio except for the Q9FN. The PQX should be similar. Blooming on the other hand is a concern. We'll see.
The Quantum X on the digital trends youtube first look basically just made it sound like basically an ever so slightly updated P Quantum from this year. Yes, it had twice as many zones and gets 900 nits brighter (significant upgrades), but it basically was the same basic tv. Probably same processor, same smartcast (he actually noted it's now missing youtube???? have to cast it now, very frustrating), same shell, etc...

I've had my P Quantum for a few weeks now and my quick review is this:

- Outstanding HDR tv, really does a great job getting deep blacks and super bright highlights with great color...I leave it in calibrated mode with FALD set to medium, high presents some blooming, medium really doesnt (IF no subtitles)

- Very average 720p/1080p SDR tv, honestly feel like it's not better than my 5 year old HU8550 it replaced, worse in some instances. Blooming is horrific on anything over low, even on low, tv guide menu shows obvious blooming, turning it off to me gives a rough picture (grayish blacks), so i leave it to low...upscaling is definitely worse than my Samsung, it's not bad, but I did notice it not being as good

- Smartcast is next to worthless (except casting), I'm pretty close to putting a roku or Fire tv on this thing, internet is so slow on it via ethernet or wifi it struggles to load streaming HDR content sometimes (I have a 200mbps connection)...it is SO SLOW in the smartcast menu

- Remote just sucks coming from Samsung smart remotes on old tv and even my upstairs NU7500...no voice control is inexcusable on a flagship tv (and they STILL didnt put it on Quantum X remote)..menu can be a little slow to load and sluggish

I honestly wonder if they haven't updated the processor in the tv in years now, its something they really need to address. Their local dimming algorithm could be a bit better as well, despite 192 zones on mine, I feel like it should be better in SDR content specifically. It really struggles with that.
thunderbird1100 is offline  
post #397 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 08:01 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 309
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 171 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Exclamation

The Quantum X 75 has an 5000000:1 dynamic contrast ratio!

Contrast Ratio is King!


Last edited by musicman777; 05-22-2019 at 08:10 AM.
musicman777 is offline  
post #398 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 08:38 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
PlanetAVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin TX USA
Posts: 2,792
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1783 Post(s)
Liked: 1393
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 View Post
The Quantum X on the digital trends youtube first look basically just made it sound like basically an ever so slightly updated P Quantum from this year. Yes, it had twice as many zones and gets 900 nits brighter (significant upgrades), but it basically was the same basic tv. Probably same processor, same smartcast (he actually noted it's now missing youtube???? have to cast it now, very frustrating), same shell, etc...

I've had my P Quantum for a few weeks now and my quick review is this:

- Outstanding HDR tv, really does a great job getting deep blacks and super bright highlights with great color...I leave it in calibrated mode with FALD set to medium, high presents some blooming, medium really doesnt (IF no subtitles)

- Very average 720p/1080p SDR tv, honestly feel like it's not better than my 5 year old HU8550 it replaced, worse in some instances. Blooming is horrific on anything over low, even on low, tv guide menu shows obvious blooming, turning it off to me gives a rough picture (grayish blacks), so i leave it to low...upscaling is definitely worse than my Samsung, it's not bad, but I did notice it not being as good

- Smartcast is next to worthless (except casting), I'm pretty close to putting a roku or Fire tv on this thing, internet is so slow on it via ethernet or wifi it struggles to load streaming HDR content sometimes (I have a 200mbps connection)...it is SO SLOW in the smartcast menu

- Remote just sucks coming from Samsung smart remotes on old tv and even my upstairs NU7500...no voice control is inexcusable on a flagship tv (and they STILL didnt put it on Quantum X remote)..menu can be a little slow to load and sluggish

I honestly wonder if they haven't updated the processor in the tv in years now, its something they really need to address. Their local dimming algorithm could be a bit better as well, despite 192 zones on mine, I feel like it should be better in SDR content specifically. It really struggles with that.
Internal apps are slow on almost every TV. The only exception I've seen is on LG WebOS.
PlanetAVS is online now  
post #399 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 09:27 AM
Advanced Member
 
thunderbird1100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 293 Post(s)
Liked: 199
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlanetAVS View Post
Internal apps are slow on almost every TV. The only exception I've seen is on LG WebOS.
I've had a good time with Tizen on multiple Samsung sets, honestly on my 2014 Samsung HU8550 the internal apps were much quicker and more responsive than on the P Quantum's Smartcast. I even got a faster internet connection.
thunderbird1100 is offline  
post #400 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 10:40 AM
UHD Addict
 
aaronwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge)
Posts: 35,404
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8959 Post(s)
Liked: 5735
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlanetAVS View Post
Internal apps are slow on almost every TV. The only exception I've seen is on LG WebOS.
Not on my TCL Roku TV. It is just as fast as my external roku's. And the new Sonys, with the newer SoC, is also very fast.

Sent from my Galaxy S10

49TB unRAID1a--53TB unRAID2--72TB unRAID3
TCL 6 Series--Sony UBP-X800--Philips BDP7502--Onkyo HT-S7800
XBL/PSN: WormholeXtreme
aaronwt is offline  
post #401 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 03:57 PM
Advanced Member
 
kensingtonwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 358 Post(s)
Liked: 72
Why is there no YouTube app on the new Vizio PQX? Caleb Denison can’t seem to find it on the Digital trends preview. That is a completely retarded move on Vizio‘s part if so.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kensingtonwick is online now  
post #402 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 07:18 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
*UFO*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,159
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 777 Post(s)
Liked: 659
Quote:
Originally Posted by kensingtonwick View Post
Why is there no YouTube app on the new Vizio PQX? Caleb Denison can’t seem to find it on the Digital trends preview. That is a completely retarded move on Vizio‘s part if so.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The youtube app didnt even work for me on the 2018 PQ. Maybe they removed it because why include an app that they cant get to work?
*UFO* is offline  
post #403 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 08:01 PM
Advanced Member
 
ttnuagmada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 609
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked: 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman777 View Post
The Quantum X 75 has an 5000000:1 dynamic contrast ratio!

Contrast Ratio is King!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymDJ_2QLxBE
Everything has a bajillion:1 dynamic contrast rating. It's a completely meaningless number.
ttnuagmada is offline  
post #404 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 08:20 PM
Advanced Member
 
kensingtonwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 358 Post(s)
Liked: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post
The youtube app didnt even work for me on the 2018 PQ. Maybe they removed it because why include an app that they cant get to work?


That’s odd. I have a PQ and mine works just fine. Have you done a reset to see if it rectifies the issue?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kensingtonwick is online now  
post #405 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 09:09 PM
Member
 
0hwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 47
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Liked: 15
So what exactly are quantum dots other than just a wide color gamut?
0hwell is offline  
post #406 of 482 Old 05-22-2019, 10:12 PM
Advanced Member
 
ttnuagmada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 609
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked: 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by 0hwell View Post
So what exactly are quantum dots other than just a wide color gamut?
That's essentially all it is. The other benefit is that it cuts down on the total number of filters needed in the panel, which means higher nit output with the same intensity backlight vs a non-QD set.
ttnuagmada is offline  
post #407 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 02:29 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 1
Anyone know if the Quantum X will have eArc? Or at the very least a firmware update in the future to support it? The receivers I’m looking at support it and I know the Sony x950g will be updating it’s firmware to it in the near future(if not already). Seems important in terms of getting quality audio and voice sync
Jlats is offline  
post #408 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 07:02 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gmarceau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post
Everything has a bajillion:1 dynamic contrast rating. It's a completely meaningless number.
His post made me feel like it was 2008 again and we were talking samsung tvs.

"If you weren't such an ignorant troll, you'd be adorable" -rogo
gmarceau is offline  
post #409 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 07:37 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 View Post
The Quantum X on the digital trends youtube first look basically just made it sound like basically an ever so slightly updated P Quantum from this year. Yes, it had twice as many zones and gets 900 nits brighter (significant upgrades), but it basically was the same basic tv. Probably same processor, same smartcast (he actually noted it's now missing youtube???? have to cast it now, very frustrating), same shell, etc...

I've had my P Quantum for a few weeks now and my quick review is this:

- Outstanding HDR tv, really does a great job getting deep blacks and super bright highlights with great color...I leave it in calibrated mode with FALD set to medium, high presents some blooming, medium really doesnt (IF no subtitles)

- Very average 720p/1080p SDR tv, honestly feel like it's not better than my 5 year old HU8550 it replaced, worse in some instances. Blooming is horrific on anything over low, even on low, tv guide menu shows obvious blooming, turning it off to me gives a rough picture (grayish blacks), so i leave it to low...upscaling is definitely worse than my Samsung, it's not bad, but I did notice it not being as good

- Smartcast is next to worthless (except casting), I'm pretty close to putting a roku or Fire tv on this thing, internet is so slow on it via ethernet or wifi it struggles to load streaming HDR content sometimes (I have a 200mbps connection)...it is SO SLOW in the smartcast menu

- Remote just sucks coming from Samsung smart remotes on old tv and even my upstairs NU7500...no voice control is inexcusable on a flagship tv (and they STILL didnt put it on Quantum X remote)..menu can be a little slow to load and sluggish

I honestly wonder if they haven't updated the processor in the tv in years now, its something they really need to address. Their local dimming algorithm could be a bit better as well, despite 192 zones on mine, I feel like it should be better in SDR content specifically. It really struggles with that.
I'm thinking these new 2019 sets may be being drastically overhyped.

It appears the operating system is still the same horribly sluggish experience as last years models, which means the processor may not have gotten much of an upgrade, if any at all, which probably means the FALD algorithms and processing is going to be relatively the same, meaning we'll probably see the same blooming issues we saw in the previous models despite the increased zone count. Last year P models had even worse blooming issues than the FALD TCL sets despite having more zones and being more expensive. The PQ had noticeable blooming as well. SDR upscaling is to be seen, but you're right in that last years Vizio models weren't that great for SDR. Seems like they have traditionally thrown all their eggs in the HDR basket.

Not to mention, this is Vizio, and there WILL BE a frustrating panel lottery. There is definitely a panel lottery for all sets, but Vizio's are some of the worst, right up there with TCL. Someone pointed out earlier during the DT unboxing video you could hear loose FALDs smack against the back of the panel when he was maneuvering the TV. You could pay a little more of a premium for a Samsung or Sony set and almost guarantee a good panel first try.
Drewtato is offline  
post #410 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 10:58 AM
Super Moderator
 
teachsac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 14,015
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1240 Post(s)
Liked: 2051
Street Pricing/Deals/Discounts discussions are not permitted outside of the deal's area.

Please use the report post button to alert staff to problematic posts. Never quote or respond to them yourself.

Panasonic DP-UB820 -> Yamaha CX-A5100 -> Sony XBR-75X940C; Mediabridge 6' and 15' HDMI cables.

Last edited by teachsac; 05-23-2019 at 12:25 PM.
teachsac is offline  
post #411 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 11:25 AM
Member
 
cliftonite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Wish they were releasing an 85"
cliftonite is offline  
post #412 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 03:28 PM
Member
 
sfsilicon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 143
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Liked: 40
Vizio published a bunch of 2019 product videos yesterday. Including the unpublished M series video I found earlier. Not much in the forum of new reviews yet...



P Series Quantum X -

P Series Quantum -
M Series Quantum -

FALD -


TV unboxing -
and
sfsilicon is offline  
post #413 of 482 Old 05-23-2019, 04:11 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 1
Rtings' review of the V series came out today. They measured a 7395 : 1 native contrast ratio.
snoobs is offline  
post #414 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 10:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 102
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked: 54
KingBeef79 is offline  
post #415 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 01:37 PM
Member
 
samovies10's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 113
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Liked: 44
That FALD video is pretty cool. Nothing new of course, but the side-by-side presentation is still captivating to watch.

I’m waiting for reviews on the PQX. I considered getting the Samsung Q90R but after seeing that the EOTF curve is not accurate and after seeing it at Best Buy I couldn’t get over the artificial/digital look of it. I think I got spoiled by OLED but I’m hoping the PQX will look better with better contrast and a more accurate picture after calibration. My other alternative is the 77” C9 but I’ll wait for reviews on the 75” PQX before deciding.

Setup:
Spoiler!
samovies10 is offline  
post #416 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 02:22 PM
Advanced Member
 
acefr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 846
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 579 Post(s)
Liked: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jlats View Post
Anyone know if the Quantum X will have eArc? Or at the very least a firmware update in the future to support it? The receivers I’m looking at support it and I know the Sony x950g will be updating it’s firmware to it in the near future(if not already). Seems important in terms of getting quality audio and voice sync.
If they are going to include it, Vizio will probably highlight it and touts it a new feature. Firmware upgrade is only possible if the hardware supports it. It does not have HDMI2.1, and I doubt it will have eARC.
acefr is offline  
post #417 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 03:15 PM
Advanced Member
 
kensingtonwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 358 Post(s)
Liked: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by samovies10 View Post
That FALD video is pretty cool. Nothing new of course, but the side-by-side presentation is still captivating to watch.



I’m waiting for reviews on the PQX. I considered getting the Samsung Q90R but after seeing that the EOTF curve is not accurate and after seeing it at Best Buy I couldn’t get over the artificial/digital look of it. I think I got spoiled by OLED but I’m hoping the PQX will look better with better contrast and a more accurate picture after calibration. My other alternative is the 77” C9 but I’ll wait for reviews on the 75” PQX before deciding.


Rtings just ordered theirs. They said they will have a review in three or four weeks. Not sure if that is a 65 inch or 75 inch though. Still awaiting a reply to find out that information. If the peak brightness trend continues I am hoping it will be 300 or 400 nits over their peak brightness specification. Last year’s PQ was supposed to be 2000 nits but most reviewers and owners were getting up to 2400 nits including myself.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kensingtonwick is online now  
post #418 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 07:12 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 40
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Has anyone seen any information on the release date for the 43 inch Vizio M Series? I can't find information anywhere on it. I even emailed Vizio and they said "it will be posted on our website when it is available." They did not have a date, etc.

It would be nice to know when it is coming out, as I need a small TV NOW. I am considering the new Samsung 43 inch QLED, but if the M Series Performs better I would rather have it (assuming it is still coming out).
Nick776 is offline  
post #419 of 482 Old 05-24-2019, 08:59 PM
Member
 
Geickel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 195
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 16
In the same boat here, regarding the 43” M. I purchased the 43” V series, before the local dimming model was released. I’m going to purchase a local dimming V to test, but I’m really excited about the 43 inch M. Any info anyone has about a release date would be most appreciated.
Geickel is offline  
post #420 of 482 Old 05-25-2019, 07:30 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Liked: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by kensingtonwick View Post
Rtings just ordered theirs. They said they will have a review in three or four weeks. Not sure if that is a 65 inch or 75 inch though. Still awaiting a reply to find out that information. If the peak brightness trend continues I am hoping it will be 300 or 400 nits over their peak brightness specification. Last year’s PQ was supposed to be 2000 nits but most reviewers and owners were getting up to 2400 nits including myself.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just to clarify, it will be a minimum of 3-4 weeks, as we haven't even received it yet, and from then it takes 2-3 weeks to test. We ordered the 65" model.
PlanetAVS and Nouniard like this.

RTINGS.com
ababcock is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Tags
p series quantum , Vizio

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off