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post #31 of 487 Old 01-07-2019, 08:55 PM
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"VIZIO, Inc. announced today its 2019 4K HDR smart TV collection, featuring its most captivating assortment of premium picture quality technologies ever. The all-new lineup offers an ideal package of expansive colors, deep blacks and luminescent whites, all enabled through an unmatched combination of Quantum Color, Active Full Array™ backlight performance and up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness in the flagship P-Series Quantum X 4K HDR line. Quantum Color - VIZIO's next-gen quantum dot technology - also extends to the 2019 M-Series™ Quantum 4K HDR Smart TVs, offering consumers unprecedented value as the first in its class to provide consumers with cutting-edge quantum dot technology. The 2019 offerings will also be equipped with VIZIO's intuitive smart TV experience, SmartCast™ 3.0, highlighted by support for Apple AirPlay 2 and HomeKit. The value-packed lineup will begin rolling out nationwide in Spring 2019.

VIZIO's P-Series offerings are available in 65- and 75-inch class sizes and split into two collections - the P-Series Quantum X and P-Series Quantum 4K HDR Smart TVs. Setting a new standard for discerning videophiles and home theater enthusiasts alike, both lines offer VIZIO's unique implementation of quantum dot technology - Quantum Color. With up to 480 local dimming zones - more than double any previous P-Series model - the P-Series Quantum X dynamically adjusts the powerful Active Full Array backlight to precisely mimic on-screen content, delivering black levels that rival OLED.

As VIZIO's brightest TV yet, the P-Series Quantum X features UltraBright 2900, allowing up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness to deliver explosive brightness and highlights, elevating the realism of Dolby Vision™ HDR1. Combined, these technologies utilize more than one billion colors to impeccably match every hue and tone with impressive cinematic intensity. The P-Series Quantum models feature up to 240 local dimming zones and up to 1,000 nits of peak brightness. Clear Action™ 960 and a 240Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, stabilizes imagery across both lineups, reducing motion blur for a smoother, more natural picture in action scenes.

"VIZIO has always been synonymous with value and our 2019 smart TV collection is no exception," said Bill Baxter, Chief Technology Officer, VIZIO. "We've combined an ideal blend of brightness, contrast and color to create a best-in-class picture across all price points. Layer on our intuitive, feature-rich smart TV platform, VIZIO SmartCast 3.0, and customers receive an entertainment experience that is unmatched in the marketplace."

In true VIZIO fashion, the 2019 M-Series collection is value-packed. Quantum Color technology will trickle down to enable a wider spectrum of colors that gives consumers a great reason to step-up to 4K HDR. Viewers will appreciate a broad range of more distinguishable hues and tones that allow details in movies and TV shows to pop. Ranging from the 43- to 65-inch class size, M-Series offers an Active Full Array backlight with up to 90 zones of local dimming, nearly double that of the 2018 M-Series collection, for precise contrast control. The M-Series also features Dolby Vision for ultra-vivid picture quality. UltraBright 600 enables up to 600 nits of peak brightness for brighter scenes with whiter whites2. Clear Action 360 works to steady on-screen imagery, reducing motion blur with powerful image processing and a 120Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, enabling a smoother, more natural picture.

Rounding out VIZIO's all-new 2019 offerings is the V-Series™ 4K HDR Smart TV lineup. VIZIO's former E-Series collection reimagined, the V-Series is perfect for anyone seeking exceptional entry-level picture quality, Dolby Vision support and a robust smart TV experience at a great value. Providing a wide selection of sizes, ranging from the 40-inch, all the way up to 75-inch class size, the V-Series offers an Active Full Array backlight with up to 16 zones of local dimming and UltraBright 400 for up to 400 nits of entry-level peak brightness. Viewers who love action movies will appreciate on-screen image stability with Clear Action and image processing with a 120Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, for smoother imagery.

VIZIO's entire 2019 lineup comes equipped with SmartCast 3.0, VIZIO's next-generation smart TV experience. Ideal for everyone from TV regulars, to cord-cutters and smart home enthusiasts alike, SmartCast 3.0 provides access to popular favorites like Netflix, Prime Video, Hulu, Vudu, iHeartRadio, CBS All Access, NBC and more3. With support for Apple AirPlay 2 and Chromecast built-in, VIZIO SmartCast 3.0 will enable users to stream, control, and share content directly from their iPhone, iPad or Mac or Android device to SmartCast TVs, all without extra hardware or products. VIZIO SmartCast 3.0 will be the first in the marketplace to work with Siri, Google Assistant and Alexa, allowing for seamless smart-home integration.

From a design perspective, the 2019 smart TVs offer stylings that will complement any living room. With a minimalist four-sided bezel-less design, the flagship P-Series Quantum X boasts precision-crafted aluminum with elegant diamond cut accents that further draws viewers in to its striking picture. The P-Series Quantum models also offer a modern aesthetic, framed by a three-sided, bezel-less design that is tooled from precision-crafted aluminum. M-Series models feature a modern design complete with elegant aluminum finishing, making the collection an ideal entertainment centerpiece.
Information surrounding VIZIO's all-new 2019 smart TV collection will be available closer to launch.
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So they dropped the 55 inch P series? Unfortunate. I guess I have to look elsewhere.

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So they dropped the 55 inch P series? Unfortunate. I guess I have to look elsewhere.
Ditto. I'm pretty bummed about that.
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I hope they do something about the form factor. While their sets look god from the front, their plastic backs and design from the side leave a lot to be desired. if they could give it something similar to the TCL 6 series, such as a flatter top and metallic finish I think that would be nice. That being said, interesting to see the P Quantum essentially becoming the new P and P becoming the new M while the V replaces the E series.
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Well I just pulled the trigger on a 2018 P75-F1 and am now wondering if I should cancel/return the order and wait for the 2019 panels. I imagine they will be a lot more $$$ but if the quality upgrade it so significant, it may be worth it?

My dilemma as well. You would obviously pay quite a bit more, but it seems (at least from the announcement) that the improvements may be worth it.
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Glad I waited. I've wanted to move from my pre-HDR M-series 65" to something bigger, but with great picture quality. OLED looked great, but I was slightly worried about burn-in from all my gaming, and the 77" was just out of reach budget wise (as was Samsung and the Sony's had bad input lag). The PQ looked great but I really wished the had a 75", now they do and with more zones and Apple streaming to boot.

I had some issues with my current Vizio and I'm still sometimes concerned about the build quality, but this will definitely be an upgrade contender for me. If the 75" PX comes in under or around the price of a 65" OLED I think I'll take the PX.
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Anyone want to guess what the price of the PQ75X will be?
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Anyone want to guess what the price of the PQ75X will be?
I'm gonna guess $2999. The new TCL 75 inch R615 is listing at $1799.

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...120Hz "effective" refresh rate on the M Series. Does that mean it's really a 60Hz refresh rate? That's a deal-breaker right there...
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No mention of HDMI 2.1. Pfffttt HDMI 2.0 is old technology! I assume the P-Series Quantum X is a 10 bit panel, i wish it was 12 bit.
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...120Hz "effective" refresh rate on the M Series. Does that mean it's really a 60Hz refresh rate? That's a deal-breaker right there...
That's the same as the current M series. Nothing new. It's a lower priced set.

Personally I've been happy with my TCL 6 series that also has a 60Hz refresh rate.
I will gladly use that with most content over my Sony UHD TV that has a 120hz refresh rate.

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I'm gonna guess $2999. The new TCL 75 inch R615 is listing at $1799.
That's what I was thinking too and I hope you're right.

I paid $3400 (after a coupon) for my P75-C1 back in March of 2016 and thought at the time that was a steal!
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My P65-C1 looks outstanding with it's current settings.......I will be interested in one of the 75" P series for sure. The only issue is getting one in Canada (at a good price). The current top of the line 65PQ has only been in stock at Costco a few times and the price has been too high compared to what it should sell for (given the us prices).


480 zones with Vizio's black bars, that stay black, would be great......hopefully the 480 zones will help with blooming and black bar performance (it will, I am sure!).
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I'm in for a 75" Quantum X!
Me too! I'm wondering if they're going to sell the 85" size?

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Anyone want to guess what the price of the PQ75X will be?
I'm gonna guess $2999. The new TCL 75 inch R615 is listing at $1799.
That's probably a great guess, but I hope you're wrong and it's less, lol

That's more than double the 1400 I paid for the PQ75, but it would be worth it.

I've never bought a tv as soon as it came out. Do they have preorders at some point like new phones?
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That's probably a great guess, but I hope you're wrong and it's less, lol

That's more than double the 1400 I paid for the PQ75, but it would be worth it.

I've never bought a tv as soon as it came out. Do they have preorders at some point like new phones?
You have a 75" PQ you only paid $1400 for? Now that's a unicorn!
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Hopefully it doesn't have the dse and jailbars
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Hopefully it doesn't have the dse and jailbars
A 75" PX with those issues fixed and an MSRP of $2999 could be quite enticing!
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That's probably a great guess, but I hope you're wrong and it's less, lol

That's more than double the 1400 I paid for the PQ75, but it would be worth it.

I've never bought a tv as soon as it came out. Do they have preorders at some point like new phones?
You have a 75" PQ you only paid $1400 for? Now that's a unicorn! [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
Lol, yeah PQ65! I wish they had made a 75 last year. Theres probably an engineer or someone who has a prototype PQ75 in their house!

I have until February 28 to return mine. We should get pricing for these new ones by then, right?
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Quantum X is definitely mine if its 2999. I hope its not priced like the old Reference series. The specs sound too good to be true for 3k.
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Quantum X is definitely mine if its 2999. I hope its not priced like the old Reference series. The specs sound too good to be true for 3k.
Me too since I paid around $3,500 for my P75 in 2016.
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Quantum X is definitely mine if its 2999. I hope its not priced like the old Reference series. The specs sound too good to be true for 3k.
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Me too since I paid around $3,500 for my P75 in 2016.
Keep in mind that pricing in general drops year to year.
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It doesn't need HDMI 2.1, but it does need VRR and eARC which are both possible on HDMI 2.0. However, without their inclusion on the announcement, I don't think they will support these. Both are important to gamers who want to connect their console or PC to the TV with uncompressed audio back to the receiver from the TV.
Dumb question: why not connect the game console to the receiver instead of the TV? ( and the receiver out to tv’s in)

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Dumb question: why not connect the game console to the receiver instead of the TV? ( and the receiver out to tv’s in)
Some gamers will want to have dedicated game settings for the TV's port that they connect their console to. Some TVs (Sony 900F for example) can auto switch to game mode if it can recognize a game source but not all TVs can do this.

Not sure if an AVR can sometimes add lag as well?
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Dumb question: why not connect the game console to the receiver instead of the TV? ( and the receiver out to tv’s in)
My main reason is that the receiver does not support VRR. As a much lower secondary reason is added lag. I don't play many fast twitch games, and it's probably not going to be very noticeable, but it will add some lag to pass video through the receiver first.
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Why not use the console/PC's digital audio out port for sending sounds to the receiver but video to the TV?

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Why not use the console/PC's digital audio out port for sending sounds to the receiver but video to the TV?
The only downside with using Optical or Coaxial audio out is you're limited to 2-channel PCM and regular Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 lossy formats.
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Depending on the prices, I might even go with the new P75 instead of the Quantum X.
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Depending on the prices, I might even go with the new P75 instead of the Quantum X.
Assume you mean the P Quantum with the 240 zones and 1000 nits peak brightness. The P will no longer exist.
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2019 M-series Question

Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about how many local dimming zones the 43" and the 50" Vizio 2019 M-series might have? Also has anyone heard anything about if all 4 hdmi ports will be hdmi 2.0 compliant, rather just having only one hdmi port being 2.0 compatible while the other 3 only are 1.4 compatible?
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