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post #61 of 483 Old 01-11-2019, 08:12 AM
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I think I'm in for a 75" P Quantum X. It should provide a nice upgrade over my non HDR P702ui-B3.

I'm heavily invested in the Google smart Home voice control platform, with home minis, Lenovo Smart Displays and Chromecast Audios in just about every room so I love the built-in Chromecast functionality and value of these TVs.

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I am in for the PQX75! My guess is that the TV will be priced around $3300 and it will be released around mid March. I bought a P75-f1 over the holidays at BestBuyand have until February 11th to return it. My hope is that the jail bar problem is fixed.
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anyone know if this tv will support VRR? thats pretty much is a must for the next gen consoles.
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I hope this won't have weird cross-hatching like samsung's 2017 Q7.
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The M series is back again available in a 43" size



I have a 43" 2015 M series which was the last year it was offered in that size. 2016,17,18 all had the smallest size start at 55" IIRC.



As someone with a small apartment, I'm overjoyed. Finding a 43" TV with good HDR brightness + local dimming was near impossible before this.
Right there with you. I am stoked for this announcement. Curious to see how many zones the 43" gets.

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Tell me about how "quantum" it is when it is 8K!
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WHERE are the >=80" sizes?! How about a P in the bigger sizes?! 75" doesn't cut it.
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Right there with you. I am stoked for this announcement. Curious to see how many zones the 43" gets.

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Same, all we know is the max size M series will be 90 zones. My 2015 43” M Series has 28 zones so anything more than that will be an upgrade. My 2015 has no HDR and only 1 input supports 4K60 so this 2019 would be a substantial ugprade for me. Plus quantum dot, AirPlay 2, Google Cast, Google Assistant/Alexa support, I’m pretty psyched. Curious on pricing as well.
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My KS9000 does not do HDR10+ or Dolby Vision

They retcon the entire update for HDR10+. I'm going to get rid of my samsung and buy the Quantum X Vizio TV in Spring.

I can get a nice chunk of change for my KS9000 and use it for the vizio which will do both Dolby and HDR10.

Screw Samsung at this point.
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Tell me about how "quantum" it is when it is 8K!
Yes, I don't think the upgrades are worth purchasing again until there are substantial differences like 8K, HDMI 2.1, etc. I'm keeping my 2017 75P until there are enough improvements to warrant another large expenditure of $$$$.
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The P-Series Quantum X is the new flagship model with ”up to 480 local dimming zones” as well as ”up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness”, the company claims. It also has an expanded color gamut thanks to a quantum dot film. It will be available in 65 and 75-inch sizes.

Stepping down into the P-Series Quantum (without the X) you get a less advanced zone dimming system (up to 240 dimming zones) and up to 1000 nits peak brightness, the company said. The P-Series Quantum will be available in 65 and 75-inch sizes.

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Sam's Club has already started shipping on the Vizio V50
https://m.samsclub.com/ip/vizio-v-se...p_product_1_11
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Sam's Club has already started shipping on the Vizio V50
https://m.samsclub.com/ip/vizio-v-se...p_product_1_11
Already? That model has been sold by multiple retailers since at least last November - there were Black Friday deals on them.
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Already? That model has been sold by multiple retailers since at least last November - there were Black Friday deals on them.
I haven't been following the lower end Vizios lately but according to their 2019 model lineup press release, the old E series will be called the V series for 2019. Were they released early?

https://www.vizio.com/news/cat/news/...ogy-into-more/
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Considering TCL and Hisense will have very good 75" TVs this year to flood the market and even LG IPS TVs with their nano cell tech will be more competitive in the low/mid end, I hope the 75" P Quantum X is at least put on display and available to the average buyer. The 65" P Quantum was MIA across the board this year despite being the best TV on the market in some major areas and a huge price drop. Vizio needs to flood the market with their highest end because this is what China will be doing this year.
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The P-Series Quantum X is the new flagship model with ”up to 480 local dimming zones” as well as ”up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness”, the company claims. It also has an expanded color gamut thanks to a quantum dot film. It will be available in 65 and 75-inch sizes.

Stepping down into the P-Series Quantum (without the X) you get a less advanced zone dimming system (up to 240 dimming zones) and up to 1000 nits peak brightness, the company said. The P-Series Quantum will be available in 65 and 75-inch sizes.
Thanks for the links. I want the 75 P Quantum X and I'd be willing to pay up to 3500 for it. However, this article just kinda confirmed what was briefly touched on early in the thread: no hdmi 2.1. Not even certain features.

All 2019 Vizio 4K TVs will support HDR10, HLG and Dolby Vision. Unlike many of its competitors, Vizio did not unveil 8K TVs at CES 2019. The company did mention HDMI 2.1 features such as VRR and eARC either.

Somewhat dubious wording with the did instead of didn't/did not but the context is clear so I think it's a typo. I just cannot in good faith buy a tv intended to be my main set and costing upwards of 3gs without HDMI 2.1. Not with next gen consoles releasing in 2020 and not with other manufacturers with better quality control equipping their non flagship lineup with hdmi 2.1 on all [4] HDMI ports. That's full 48gbs hdmi. Granted, that's LG. They make their own processors and it's OLED. I never wanted to go OLED. But the pricing will be close between a C9 and the Quantum X series. Samsung is offering 2.1 with 8k. TCL presumably as well with their 8 series. I don't give a crap about 8k, but HDMi 2.1 is not an inessential future proof feature to me when I don't buy new tvs annually and we will have regular content to take advantage of the new HDMI standard in less than two years. It's counter intuitive and I can't justify it despite owning the P series Quantum briefly (so many issues) and being blown away by the picture quality in HDR.
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Thanks for the links. I want the 75 P Quantum X and I'd be willing to pay up to 3500 for it. However, this article just kinda confirmed what was briefly touched on early in the thread: no hdmi 2.1. Not even certain features.

All 2019 Vizio 4K TVs will support HDR10, HLG and Dolby Vision. Unlike many of its competitors, Vizio did not unveil 8K TVs at CES 2019. The company did mention HDMI 2.1 features such as VRR and eARC either.

Somewhat dubious wording with the did instead of didn't/did not but the context is clear so I think it's a typo. I just cannot in good faith buy a tv intended to be my main set and costing upwards of 3gs without HDMI 2.1. Not with next gen consoles releasing in 2020 and not with other manufacturers with better quality control equipping their non flagship lineup with hdmi 2.1 on all [4] HDMI ports. That's full 48gbs hdmi. Granted, that's LG. They make their own processors and it's OLED. I never wanted to go OLED. But the pricing will be close between a C9 and the Quantum X series. Samsung is offering 2.1 with 8k. TCL presumably as well with their 8 series. I don't give a crap about 8k, but HDMi 2.1 is not an inessential future proof feature to me when I don't buy new tvs annually and we will have regular content to take advantage of the new HDMI standard in less than two years. It's counter intuitive and I can't justify it despite owning the P series Quantum briefly (so many issues) and being blown away by the picture quality in HDR.
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You're right, a lot of details are unknown !!!
This year there will be a problem with HDMI 2.1
Because the bandwidth will not be full!

Even Samsung says there will be no HDMI 2.1 transmission bandwidth
NO 12/14/16 BIT

It hurts me very much that Samsung did not bring 12BIT

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anyone know if this tv will support VRR? thats pretty much is a must for the next gen consoles.
ALLM. No eARC or VRR. Source

Kinda bummed. But an apple tv can replace the loss of eARC. VRR is great, but personally I play mostly play 30fps game content on consoles and PC game on a 165Hz gsync monitor. Doesn't super effect me now, but may come 2020 consoles.
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Vizio doesn't do CES though do they?
TCL has encouraged them to change their tune.

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The 75" QuantumX seems to be the way to go until the dust settles in a few years for 8K to get situated. I'm a Sony guy but logically why pay big bucks now when you can sit pretty with this set at wood price point and when there's plenty of 8K media to watch jump on that wagon. Look how long it took for a semblance of 4K to be available. It's going to be some time for 8K to be ubiquitous. I was one of the first in the country to have a 4K set years back and still most streaming is predominantly 2K. You would think by now there would have been alot more 4K media than there currently is. That said I like the idea behind Samsung's microLED, brighter than Oled with similar blacks and no burn-in worries and with less energy consumption. I can wait a few years for it to come to market at cosumer pricing. My only concern with Vizio is the up-conversion it's not on par with competitors so I'll get a good pre-pro that can do that before feeding it into the set.
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Hi everyone, does anyone know if all the input jacks on the 2018 M-series were hdmi 2.0 or not? I ask because I don't need hdmi 2.1 but if all the input jacks on the 2019 M-series don't have at least hdmi 2.0 or hopefully hdmi 2.0b, then i'm going to be really disapointed in Vizio.
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Hi everyone, does anyone know if all the input jacks on the 2018 M-series were hdmi 2.0 or not? I ask because I don't need hdmi 2.1 but if all the input jacks on the 2019 M-series don't have at least hdmi 2.0 or hopefully hdmi 2.0b, then i'm going to be really disapointed in Vizio.
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Thanks for the reply PlanetAVS, I just realised I could've found out what I need to know just by using google lolz.
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I am always glad to see Vizio step up in performance but with TCL and Hisense making waves in the game, Vizio's weaknesses are more apparent. Namely their processors, aesthetic, and smart OS. Their sets tend to be deeper and have no cable management. The TCL 6 series looks significantly better as a design when viewed from the side. Vizio's octa core processor has left a lot to be desired on my P series and if they are using the same one they have been using since 2016 then they are going to continue to frustrate customers as the tv is prone to slow downs and hangs, especially when casting. The smartcast OS leaves a lot to be desired and is usually one of the lowest graded experiences for their tv as of late. With Hisense and TCL rocking Roku and Android TV it eats Vizio's lunch in that dept. If they tweak those, it will be very hard to justify going anywhere else.
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... for 8K to get situated.
No space for a 130"+ TV, I can already see too many zits, and have much better uses for the bandwidth.
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Here's a good hands on video by Caleb of Digital Trends. I'm still surprised that Vizio was at ces this year. Maybe the new CEO changed things up.



Caleb also mentions that there is an 85" Vizio PQX in the back but no plans yet to release it.





https://youtu.be/nMgPTBVQSBI


When he says it’s “in the back” he meant it was right behind him. It’s the last tv on the right. To the left is the 75” and to the left of the 75” is the 65”quantum x


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Hm.... I bought a P75-C1 at Sam's in Feb 2018 for $1800 + $129 for 5 year square trade warranty. So I am in around $1930.

I do experience the jailbars, Vizio replaced it and gave me another Vizio P75, same jailbars. I have MFG warranty until 02/16. I really like the idea of the 75" QX.

Anyone have experience with Squaretrade? I wonder if they would consider the jail bars a defect and cut me a check?
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I was going through the thread and couldn't find anyone talking about the actual release date of the PQ an d PQX 2019 modules?

I checked VIZIO and other articles no one is saying when they will be available to the consumer? its almost Feb 2019?

Any estimates? considering previous years releases?
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I was going through the thread and couldn't find anyone talking about the actual release date of the PQ an d PQX 2019 modules?

I checked VIZIO and other articles no one is saying when they will be available to the consumer? its almost Feb 2019?

Any estimates? considering previous years releases?
Perhaps not until mid-year, or later for the PQX series. CES is typically used to announce products that will be available during that year and it's not unusual for products that are a far out as 9 or 10 months to be announced at CES. I wouldn't be surprised it Visio brings out their lower end models first then their higher end models later.

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I hope that Vizio can make the jailbars invisible. I hope that more zones (240 or 480) does not just mean more columns of the jailbars!
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