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Vizio Going All-In on Quantum Dots at CES 2019

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Here's a clip where a Vizo rep goes over the picture-quality related features of the M-series and higher for 2019:


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"VIZIO, Inc. announced today its 2019 4K HDR smart TV collection, featuring its most captivating assortment of premium picture quality technologies ever. The all-new lineup offers an ideal package of expansive colors, deep blacks and luminescent whites, all enabled through an unmatched combination of Quantum Color, Active Full Array™ backlight performance and up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness in the flagship P-Series Quantum X 4K HDR line. Quantum Color - VIZIO's next-gen quantum dot technology - also extends to the 2019 M-Series™ Quantum 4K HDR Smart TVs, offering consumers unprecedented value as the first in its class to provide consumers with cutting-edge quantum dot technology. The 2019 offerings will also be equipped with VIZIO's intuitive smart TV experience, SmartCast™ 3.0, highlighted by support for Apple AirPlay 2 and HomeKit. The value-packed lineup will begin rolling out nationwide in Spring 2019.

VIZIO's P-Series offerings are available in 65- and 75-inch class sizes and split into two collections - the P-Series Quantum X and P-Series Quantum 4K HDR Smart TVs. Setting a new standard for discerning videophiles and home theater enthusiasts alike, both lines offer VIZIO's unique implementation of quantum dot technology - Quantum Color. With up to 480 local dimming zones - more than double any previous P-Series model - the P-Series Quantum X dynamically adjusts the powerful Active Full Array backlight to precisely mimic on-screen content, delivering black levels that rival OLED.

As VIZIO's brightest TV yet, the P-Series Quantum X features UltraBright 2900, allowing up to 2,900 nits of peak brightness to deliver explosive brightness and highlights, elevating the realism of Dolby Vision™ HDR1. Combined, these technologies utilize more than one billion colors to impeccably match every hue and tone with impressive cinematic intensity. The P-Series Quantum models feature up to 240 local dimming zones and up to 1,000 nits of peak brightness. Clear Action™ 960 and a 240Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, stabilizes imagery across both lineups, reducing motion blur for a smoother, more natural picture in action scenes.

"VIZIO has always been synonymous with value and our 2019 smart TV collection is no exception," said Bill Baxter, Chief Technology Officer, VIZIO. "We've combined an ideal blend of brightness, contrast and color to create a best-in-class picture across all price points. Layer on our intuitive, feature-rich smart TV platform, VIZIO SmartCast 3.0, and customers receive an entertainment experience that is unmatched in the marketplace."

In true VIZIO fashion, the 2019 M-Series collection is value-packed. Quantum Color technology will trickle down to enable a wider spectrum of colors that gives consumers a great reason to step-up to 4K HDR. Viewers will appreciate a broad range of more distinguishable hues and tones that allow details in movies and TV shows to pop. Ranging from the 43- to 65-inch class size, M-Series offers an Active Full Array backlight with up to 90 zones of local dimming, nearly double that of the 2018 M-Series collection, for precise contrast control. The M-Series also features Dolby Vision for ultra-vivid picture quality. UltraBright 600 enables up to 600 nits of peak brightness for brighter scenes with whiter whites2. Clear Action 360 works to steady on-screen imagery, reducing motion blur with powerful image processing and a 120Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, enabling a smoother, more natural picture.

Rounding out VIZIO's all-new 2019 offerings is the V-Series™ 4K HDR Smart TV lineup. VIZIO's former E-Series collection reimagined, the V-Series is perfect for anyone seeking exceptional entry-level picture quality, Dolby Vision support and a robust smart TV experience at a great value. Providing a wide selection of sizes, ranging from the 40-inch, all the way up to 75-inch class size, the V-Series offers an Active Full Array backlight with up to 16 zones of local dimming and UltraBright 400 for up to 400 nits of entry-level peak brightness. Viewers who love action movies will appreciate on-screen image stability with Clear Action and image processing with a 120Hz effective refresh rate, achieved with backlight scanning, for smoother imagery.

VIZIO's entire 2019 lineup comes equipped with SmartCast 3.0, VIZIO's next-generation smart TV experience. Ideal for everyone from TV regulars, to cord-cutters and smart home enthusiasts alike, SmartCast 3.0 provides access to popular favorites like Netflix, Prime Video, Hulu, Vudu, iHeartRadio, CBS All Access, NBC and more3. With support for Apple AirPlay 2 and Chromecast built-in, VIZIO SmartCast 3.0 will enable users to stream, control, and share content directly from their iPhone, iPad or Mac or Android device to SmartCast TVs, all without extra hardware or products. VIZIO SmartCast 3.0 will be the first in the marketplace to work with Siri, Google Assistant and Alexa, allowing for seamless smart-home integration.

From a design perspective, the 2019 smart TVs offer stylings that will complement any living room. With a minimalist four-sided bezel-less design, the flagship P-Series Quantum X boasts precision-crafted aluminum with elegant diamond cut accents that further draws viewers in to its striking picture. The P-Series Quantum models also offer a modern aesthetic, framed by a three-sided, bezel-less design that is tooled from precision-crafted aluminum. M-Series models feature a modern design complete with elegant aluminum finishing, making the collection an ideal entertainment centerpiece.
Information surrounding VIZIO's all-new 2019 smart TV collection will be available closer to launch.
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Interesting, that is a lot of zones in the X. Interested to see how these perform with that many zones.

Also interested if they have enhanced/upgraded their video processors?

And of course pricing

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Interesting that they're back on a yearly cycle.

2018 P Series Quantum becomes 2019 P Series Quantum X, adding a 75" with double the dimming zones and brighter at 2900 nits.
2018 P Series becomes 2019 P Series Quantum, adding Quantum (dot) Color, but keeping the same brightness and dropping the 55".
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No mention of HDMI 2.1. Pfffttt HDMI 2.0 is old technology! I assume the P-Series Quantum X is a 10 bit panel, i wish it was 12 bit.

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Hopefully they can address gradient performance as that's really the only other thing holding them back.
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Hopefully they can address gradient performance as that's really the only other thing holding them back.

This. This is why I wouldn't consider the Quantum last year. The rest sounds most intriguing.
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Interesting that they're back on a yearly cycle.

2018 P Series becomes 2019 P Series Quantum, adding Quantum (dot) Color, but keeping the same brightness and dropping the 55".
Plus a lot more zones than the 2018 P
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Plus a lot more zones than the 2018 P
True, I forgot about that. I know 2018 was lower than 2016/17, but it seems they've now corrected that and it's higher than both.
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My plan was to pick up a 2018 P65 Quantum or P-75 F at discount in the next few months; now, I may have to shell out for the 2019 models if they look as good as it sounds like they might.
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480 dimming zones?

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480 dimming zones?
The reduction in FALD zones and other regressions in 2018 p series is why i went with a sony last year. But these could bring me back to vizeo in 2019. but I want to see what sony puts out later too. Yes I'm crazy enough to upgrade again even after just last year. I can rationalize it by moving last years to another room and this years into my room of course My biggest disappointment with almost everyones tvs last year was how they pretty much ALL reduced local dimming zones in 2018 to cut cost, but this increased blooming and such for 2018. A bit of bias lighting and such to sort of hide problem, but it's no secret the dark room performance took a hit in 2018 over previous year models.
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HDMI 2.1 or nah?


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I would think no. I can't imagine them not highlighting that if it were the case.
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My plan was to pick up a 2018 P65 Quantum or P-75 F at discount in the next few months; now, I may have to shell out for the 2019 models if they look as good as it sounds like they might.
Wait for the Quantum or Quantum X 75 if you can. Although it will probably be at least the July 4th holiday before there will likely be any discounts. TCL is also supposed to be adding Quantum this year as well, might want to wait to see what they have to offer.
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No mention of HDMI 2.1. Pfffttt HDMI 2.0 is old technology! I assume the P-Series Quantum X is a 10 bit panel, i wish it was 12 bit.
Who is putting out 12 bit panels?
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2900 nits, that is some outrageously awesome brightness. You're gonna need sun glasses
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The brightness numbers are crazy. As an owner of a PQ, its way too bright already - especially for SDR. In a dark room its set to like 20-30 backlight! Those active zone numbers are amazing though.
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I'm assuming it won't have HDMI 2.1 because they would be shouting about it, if it did...i'll hold out some hope that they include hardware, and are maybe waiting on some sort of certification or something....

if it does have HDMI 2.1...and they have improved the gradient performance (probably the one thing that gave me pause about the 2018 PQ....it is going to be REALLY hard not to buy the PQX75 (assuming its not stupid expensive)
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Vizio doesn't do CES though do they?

If so, Imagic can you please ask them about using 10 bit or better panels; dithered or not... specifically if the gradations should be improved on the 2019 line. Also what are the release dates?

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Vizio doesn't do CES though do they?
That's what I thought too. Seems they changed their minds.


https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/7/18...akers-ces-2019
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That's what I thought too. Seems they changed their minds.


https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/7/18...akers-ces-2019
Cool; this is a good thing. Hopefully iMagic can get some answers to his and everyone's questions.
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I'm in for a 75" Quantum X!
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It doesn't need HDMI 2.1, but it does need VRR and eARC which are both possible on HDMI 2.0. However, without their inclusion on the announcement, I don't think they will support these. Both are important to gamers who want to connect their console or PC to the TV with uncompressed audio back to the receiver from the TV.
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Wait for the Quantum or Quantum X 75 if you can. Although it will probably be at least the July 4th holiday before there will likely be any discounts. TCL is also supposed to be adding Quantum this year as well, might want to wait to see what they have to offer.

I'm on a 46" samsung from 2011 - so theoretically, I can wait. But I'm getting very antsy to get a larger, 4k TV. I think if I find the 2018's with a deep enough discount, I'll bite, otherwise, I'll wait for the 2019.
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Well I just pulled the trigger on a 2018 P75-F1 and am now wondering if I should cancel/return the order and wait for the 2019 panels. I imagine they will be a lot more $$$ but if the quality upgrade it so significant, it may be worth it?
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My only gripe is that the PQ-series should be around 1500 nits.
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They killed off the 55” P series. And made in an M Series with half brightness and 90 Zones. Still has Quantum Dots.

I really hope Vizio got a new Quad Core CPU for their Interface because the 2018 P models were unuseably slow.

And Vizio, just 1 HDMI 2.1 port would have made me a customer. But they failed.

Either way my money says any P or M series Vizio from 2019 will destroy any comparable Samsung for Half the Price at Retail.

55” M series will be $600 and have 90 Zones FALD and Quantum Dots. A Q8FN only has 40 Zones.
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The M series is back again available in a 43" size

I have a 43" 2015 M series which was the last year it was offered in that size. 2016,17,18 all had the smallest size start at 55" IIRC.

As someone with a small apartment, I'm overjoyed. Finding a 43" TV with good HDR brightness + local dimming was near impossible before this.
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Here's a good hands on video by Caleb of Digital Trends. I'm still surprised that Vizio was at ces this year. Maybe the new CEO changed things up.

Caleb also mentions that there is an 85" Vizio PQX in the back but no plans yet to release it.


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