Originally Posted by DJR662
This post reads like a PR
You seem pretty sure about 8K in general and the Z9G's performance in particular.
You mentioned the viewing experience will be like watching through a window. Sounds to me like you're the type of person looking for content that looks like those instore demos they're running on TV sets. Personally I just want TVs that are able to display an accurate presentation of motion pictures accordingly to how it should look. Something which most past and current 4K TVs seem to be doing a pretty good job at. You mentioned 4K just being a transition. I actually think it is the end point when it comes to movies on physical media, which btw is all I care about. With so many 2K DI movies and 4K DI ones still being in the minority, what actual benefit would 8K have for motion picture movie watching? Sure perhaps they could do complete new scans and remasters for old(er) analogue movies in order to benefit from the higher resolution, but I doubt that would happen. And an actual 8K DI for modern movies is not something that I think will ever happen either. And physical 8K UHD media is something that I think most definitely will never happen. I think the only thing 8K will possibly be any good for, is if they somehow would bring 3D back in one form or another.
It seems to me you think 8K is an absolute necessity for larger screens. I honestly doubt that. If Sony give it their best, I bet 4K would be enough for an 85" screen to display a correct picture and still maintaining the same characteristics of its smaller counterparts. As for upscaling 4K to 8K, I think we're getting to the point of diminishing returns here...
And as for the Z9G, I'm sure it will be an amazing set. But with everything I have heard and read so far, its price tag will not justify its performance I think. At least not for me. The 75Z9D does an excellent job under pitch-dark room conditions. There is no reason why the Z9G would potentially underperform in that regard when compared to the 75Z9D. I expect the G to outperform the D.
Being a long life Sony fan, I think I know Sony quality. And I am 100% sure I wouldn't want the Z9G to be the last TV I will ever own. Especially not just because it happens to be 8K. IMHO the "true" future lies in new TV technologies like Mini and MicroLED, not higher resolutions. But I'll be happy to be proving wrong though and eat my words should the time come.
Btw this is NOT a personal attack on you, I am just sharing my 2 cents on the matter.
Of course I don't take personally being called a Sony shill.
If you think my explaining why people who dismiss 8K, because of lack of content, miss the point of 8K is a "PR
press release," then can't argue with you there.
As for taking issues about looking through a window rather than at a screen, Sony expressly calls it "realness". If that's not what you want, then can't argue with you there, either.
With respect, you are wrong that 8K isn't necessary (I didn't say "absolute necessity" but won't quibble) for these screen sizes. If you want to say that it's not necessary, despite my explaining why, if you want a degraded image at these screen sizes from the same distance, then I can't argue with you there, either.
As for black performance in a pitch-dark room, there will be an inevitable trade-off in HDR with 4000 nits. If it's not worth it to you to get 4000 nits HDR because you won't get inky blacks (at the cost of shadow detail) and may get some blooming in a pitch-black room, then can't argue with you there, either.
And if you don't think the performance/specs of this 85" Sony 8K HDR doesn't justify its $13,000 launch price tag compared to the performance of Sony's 77" 4K A1E OLED with a launch price tag of $20,000, then I won't argue with you there.
Since you think I'm a Sony shill, then read John Archer
. . . unless you think they're Sony shills, too.