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post #61 of 2084 Old 01-24-2019, 08:15 AM
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If its 6x XDR, then its no x930e/40e sequel. The former had 10x XDR. However, the xdr contrast doesn't always tell the whole entire story. The z9f has 12x, albeit the x930e and x940e have much better contrast and black levels. However, that could be due to x-wide. I'm hearing the x950g 55inch and 65inch respectively will not have x-wide tech.

It only shows X-Wide on the larger sets on the official page, yes.



Someone earlier mentioned XDR at 6x, but I couldn't find it anywhere on the actual page for the item. All the others displayed it prominently. He was right, though. 6x.
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I think it's still too soon to say about X Wide. There is a dash (-) listed for the 55 and 65, sure, but also on the 85. Would they really only apply the X Wide to one of the four configurations? IMO the Specs page is still incomplete.. obviously.

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I think it's still too soon to say about X Wide. There is a dash (-) listed for the 55 and 65, sure, but also on the 85. Would they really only apply the X Wide to one of the four configurations? IMO the Specs page is still incomplete.. obviously.


I could have swore it was mentioned at ces that the 65” and 55” wouldn’t have the x wide. I could be wrong though.


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I noticed on the Sony site it is listing the specs now

https://www.sony.com/electronics/tel...specifications
Not for the 85" though.

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I hope it's not true that the 55 and 65 don't have X-Wide angle. Was really bothered by color/skin tone shifting even when moving my head with VA panels including the X900F. I won't mind a little worse black levels or heck even IPS black levels but I do want a Sony that's able to have crap ton of tweaks for pc/image quality.
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The 55 and 65 will not have the wide angle and that’s better for lots of people me included. It has been confirmed in many places including by Sony too.
Let’s hope we get reviews soon a at Vincent comments were promising.
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Has it been official on what model numbers is the replacement for the 900f. I see a few different answers?
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The 55 and 65 will not have the wide angle and that’s better for lots of people me included. It has been confirmed in many places including by Sony too.
Let’s hope we get reviews soon a at Vincent comments were promising.
I hope their 2019 x wide angle is much better than Z9F's since Samsung might have nailed it. I guess I'd better wait for reviews but probably not. I have a feeling Samsung's just gonna put their new Q Wide angle on the higher end Qs not 2019 Q6.
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I hope their 2019 x wide angle is much better than Z9F's since Samsung might have nailed it. I guess I'd better wait for reviews but probably not. I have a feeling Samsung's just gonna put their new Q Wide angle on the higher end Qs not 2019 Q6.
Yeah we'll see if they really nailed it... im very skeptical
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Sadly I am convinced they didn’t. Wide angle is great but impact contast and there is this possible issue of bright light hitting panel and creating a weird pattern...
Glad it is not on the 55 and 65 but that’s selfish...
Samsung, I have no idea if they share the wide angle love (sounds wrong :-) with q8 and q7...
I will go q9 but expecting crazy prices I can’t afford. If the Sony releases at same level as xf9 then could be perfect...

Always liked xe93 and xf9, hope the xg95 has the dna of both...and closer to zf9 without that wide angle and better native contrast...that will do me for 2-4 years

I hope we see some reviews soon...too quiet
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Sadly I am convinced they didn’t.
Archer was positive about Z9G blacks.
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Has it been official on what model numbers is the replacement for the 900f. I see a few different answers?
This goes over the 2019 Sony's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=iqG94cu0GoE
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AVS has found a new thing to whine about lately, X Wide Angle. omg x wide. Many of these same folks whined that the z9d has color shifts and a very narrow viewing angle. Oh well, sony you can't satisfy AVS.

Or...maybe it's not sony at fault, maybe that people here need to realize that lcd technology has its limitations and you can't have both. If you want excellent contrast and viewing angles both, it's simple get an oled. And don't deprive yourself with burn in fear mongering, 2018 oleds have no problem, i use oled as a pc monitor daily since several months, i dont have any burn in.
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My local sony marketing representative asia-pacific tells me that sony will release:

X900G/X90G -->which is the successor to the X900F/X90F.

X950G/X95G----> which is the combined successor to the X930E/X940E. X930e had higher peak brightness and X940e had better blooming control. This new model combines both and will be powered by the X1 Ultimate.

Z9G/ZG9----->which is the successor to Z9D/ZD9 (not the ZF9).It has backlight master drive like the D and has a native 8K screen. Available in 85 and 98" sizes and both will be really expensive.

A9G---->Oled successor to the A9F.

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All these tv's will release in the first half of 2019.
Only the Z9G/ZG9 out of all these models will have hdmi 2.1, rest all will be hdmi 2.0b.

I am being told that there might be a couple of new tv's released in september by sony which will have hdmi 2.1 and starting next year in 2020, most sony tv's will shift to hdmi 2.1.

So people who want to secure their tv purchase for the next few years, unless buying the Z9G, would be better advised to wait a little, till september or early next year, you will get a future proof tv with hdmi 2.1 by waiting. If you don't care about 2.1, then sure you can buy from these models.

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My local sony marketing representative asia-pacific tells me that sony will release:
X950G/X95G----> which is the combined successor to the X930E/X940E. X930e had higher peak brightness and X940e had better blooming control. This new model combines both and will be powered by the X1 Ultimate.

I hope this is indeed the case. I am pleased with my X930E and have been waiting for a true successor.
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I pray for this to be true especially for xg95
I will not care about hdmi 2.1 for this tv if it is a successor to xe93 indeed
Finger crossed...we need reviews now
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I hope this is indeed the case. I am pleased with my X930E and have been waiting for a true successor.
I had that tv for few months, now own an oled. It was good, pretty good black levels but it could have been better if sony had put in more dimming zones to tame down the blooming and haloing, which was noticeable often if bright objects stood against a dark -ish background. The thing that the tv nailed was the peak light output/whites, no ABL and whites were sparkling white in hdr content, on oled they are more subdued as ABL limits them. Being an 'unconventional' edge lit, its backlight control was still better than falds like the x900f and x900e. It was upper midrange, had there been more zones (there were 60 odd zones) for better controlling of bloom and haloing, it could've better competed with premium models like z9d.
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I hope this is indeed the case. I am pleased with my X930E and have been waiting for a true successor.
I had that tv for few months, now own an oled. It was good, pretty good black levels but it could have been better if sony had put in more dimming zones to tame down the blooming and haloing, which was noticeable often if bright objects stood against a dark -ish background. The thing that the tv nailed was the peak light output/whites, no ABL and whites were sparkling white in hdr content, on oled they are more subdued as ABL limits them. Being an 'unconventional' edge lit, its backlight control was still better than falds like the x900f and x900e. It was upper midrange, had there been more zones (there were 60 odd zones) for better controlling of bloom and haloing, it could've better competed with premium models like z9d.
Amen to that
This is why it is exciting to see if xg95 can give us the xe93 kind of performance with many improvements and less of the negatives...
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I had that tv for few months, now own an oled. It was good, pretty good black levels but it could have been better if sony had put in more dimming zones to tame down the blooming and haloing, which was noticeable often if bright objects stood against a dark -ish background. The thing that the tv nailed was the peak light output/whites, no ABL and whites were sparkling white in hdr content, on oled they are more subdued as ABL limits them. Being an 'unconventional' edge lit, its backlight control was still better than falds like the x900f and x900e. It was upper midrange, had there been more zones (there were 60 odd zones) for better controlling of bloom and haloing, it could've better competed with premium models like z9d.

Agree. The blooming of bright objects on dark backgrounds certainly is its weak point, but its peak brightness, lack of DSE, and passable local dimming make it a very solid set overall. It is especially good for HDR gaming; I specifically chose it over an OLED for my gameroom because its greater brightness and lack of IR are more important to me while gaming than black levels.
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I guess skip this 2019 G-models and wait for HDMI 2.1 to be adopted industry-wide.

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I guess skip this 2019 G-models and wait for HDMI 2.1 to be adopted industry-wide.
But, will it really mean a difference in the next decade if the source isn't supporting the 2.1?
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Where does everyone sell their old tvs on here that get new ones every 1-3 years?

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Totally agree with you on that. If Sony makes a 900G series there is definitely a need for a better pq 950G to bridge the gap between 900G and Z9G. I hope the 950G supports DTS over arc. I dont know how much the licensing for DTS cost, but it cant be that much??? I hate Sony for not supporting DTS over arc on the Z9F...that's not flagship. That's why Samsung pissed me off this year was that they cheaped out and dropped DTS over arc...not cool
HDMI earc is on the 950g which should just pass through the DTS from what I have read.

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I think you are right. I forgot about seeing the Samsung 8K at best buy for $15,000 The Sony Z9G in 85" is going to be closer to $20,000 then. In my Canadian dollars that is around 27K or 28K....I don't think too many people from Canada will be buying a Z9G soon. If you invite me over to watch movies, I will spring for the popcorn LOL.





I think thats why there will be a lot of people including me hoping the X950G will deliver the goods.
Agreed, when I build my new home in 2 years with a theater room or media room I will get the Sony 100" of that year and I think it should be less than this years.

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HDMI earc is on the 950g which should just pass through the DTS from what I have read.

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I hope you are right. DTS over ARC or EARC might not make a difference to some people, to me it does.
I would prefer Sony included DTS over EARC and made pay an extra $20 or $50 or whatever for the TV
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I hope you are right. DTS over ARC or EARC might not make a difference to some people, to me it does.

I would prefer Sony included DTS over EARC and made pay an extra $20 or $50 or whatever for the TV
Arc does not have the required bandwidth for DTS from what I understand. It isn't a licensing cost that Sony avoided. Earc does have the required bandwidth. Here is the info which does list DTS. https://www.cepro.com/article/earc_c...8_tv_avr_audio

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Arc does not have the required bandwidth for DTS from what I understand. It isn't a licensing cost that Sony avoided. Earc does have the required bandwidth. Here is the info which does list DTS. https://www.cepro.com/article/earc_c...8_tv_avr_audio

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I stream movies from my office pc to my old Samsung TV. A lot of the movies are saved with a DTS sound track only and the TV via ARC has no problem passing them back to my receiver. My TV has to be set to DTS in the audio section. If my TV is set to DD and I try stream a movie with a DTS soundtrack it will pass but only as pcm.

All Samsung TVs I believe dropped DTS over ARC for 2018 and Sony did the same with the Z9F no DTS support over optical or ARC.

I noticed that when RTings did the review of the Z9F...check it out Anyways that's why I hope 950G and Z9G have it

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...&threshold=0.1


So anyways EARC will support DTS...I hope that's compatible with my old trusty Yamaha RX-A3040

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Not sure if this worth anything at all, but B&H Photo (authorized Sony dealer) has the X950G's (most sizes) up on their website along with pricing. Of course they're pre-orders. That said, if the pricing is correct, they're listing the 65" for $2199. As of now, pricing is still not on Sony's website.
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Not sure if this worth anything at all, but B&H Photo (authorized Sony dealer) has the X950G's (most sizes) up on their website along with pricing. Of course they're pre-orders. That said, if the pricing is correct, they're listing the 65" for $2199. As of now, pricing is still not on Sony's website.
I found similar pricing on Value Electronics too.
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The 85" is the only set not priced yet but given the 75" comes in at 3.5K one could assume it will be priced at 5K or 6K. If so great price, esp. since a few Chinese sites that have early reviews seem to say this TV has amazing PQ.

Might be the best deal of this year if true...
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