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I agree that the Android performance with Oreo isn't outstanding, but it isn't as bad as some claim and is certainly still usable. I watch Netflix, Youtube, PS Vue, and Prime Video on the native X930E apps.
Yup, as long as you never activated Samba TV, the UI performance is more than acceptable for a Smart TV Platform.
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Yup, as long as you never activated Samba TV, the UI performance is more than acceptable for a Smart TV Platform.
Is there an obvious, specific point during setup that clearly asks about activating Samba TV? I think I'm going to get a 900F now, especially since the 85" 950G hasn't even been announced yet.
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This tv is why i probably won't buy another Sony. The 940d and z9d were the last true no compromise flagships...They've let 1 or more giant compromises come in ever since. They keep making the 900e over and over. Super lame...
What brand do you think you would choose going forward? It's a bummer that Sony hasn't made anymore sets like the Z9D or 940D

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So the biggest benefit to the 950G is the processor upgrade at this point, that mostly seems to be what you're paying for right now. Is the 900F really that sluggish in comparison?

I currently use NVidia Shield TVs and was going to get a 900F but wanted to wait to see how the 950G turned out. Might be cost prohibitive though.
If you plan on using the smart OS I wouldnt touch the 900F with a 10 foot pole. The processor is completely unacceptable for 2019. For the record I have the 800D with the exact same chip. Oreo helped a TON but not enough to make up for the slow MediaTek.

Here is some benchmark numbers for the CPU. GPU also got a major upgrade. Trust me. These numbers matter.

Bravia 800F
  • Single-Core: 510
  • Multi-Core: 1204
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/11203318

Bravia 950G
  • Single-Core: 1078
  • Multi-Core: 2977
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12118056

Here is a shield TV since you own one
  • Single-Core: 1532
  • Multi-Core: 4462
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12336139

and the new Galaxy s10 for fun...
  • Single-Core: 3761
  • Multi-Core: 8620
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/11416003

*Also, one other thing people are not mentioning here is the chipset in the 900F is likely end of life. You want longer update support from Sony than you want the new chipset. The one in the 950G/Master Series is the newest MediaTek sony has released.

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This is true, although i think it's a bit early to jump on the 8k bandwagon yet. I typically don't buy the first iteration of a new tech, normally wait a couple generations to ensure some of the early kinks get ironed out. Plus I don't think 8k is going to be that much better especially when there is no content yet. 4,000 nits would be kinda cool, but also a bit overkill for home usage...
well maybe the 65Z9G for example will have 600 zones, and it will have nothing to do with 8K.....
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What brand do you think you would choose going forward? It's a bummer that Sony hasn't made anymore sets like the Z9D or 940D
Well i just got the z9d in December so I will have that for a while and the A1E in my bedroom has less than 100 hours on it so I should be good there too. The Samsung Q90R looks pretty promising.
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Is there an obvious, specific point during setup that clearly asks about activating Samba TV? I think I'm going to get a 900F now, especially since the 85" 950G hasn't even been announced yet.
Yes, super obvious. It will ask you twice. Select NO both times.
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Sony contrast "evolution" for 3 years - XE900 (6534:1)- XF900 (5725:1)- XG950 (4833:1). Good results
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Sony should buy their displays from Samsung. Just like they buy their OLED'S from LG. Using Samsung's qled + sony's processor= win.
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The X900F crashes all the time when I try to play basic 1080p video files over USB and the remote control is trash.

950G is probably worth it to me just for the OS and chip, even if the picture quality is the same.
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I've been using X900F with Mediatek MT5891 for several weeks and here are my comments:

- System never crashed during that time.
- I've watched many different video files from USB stick and over the home network without any problems. Default video player is basic but quite responsive. I also use KODI which offers many more options. No problems with playing 4K/60 HDR video files from USB 2.0 stick
- processor (MT5891) is definitively not fast ;-) and SONY should have upgraded it long time ago. I'm very surprised that such a brand is making such a stupid savings knowing that users will complain all over the internet discouraging potential buyers. Can't understand it...
- Despite quite slow processor Android on X900F is absolutely usable.
- Obviously if you mainly use your TV as a monitor for your gaming console, TV box, blu ray player etc. then there is nothing to worry about. Everything works very well and quite fast. Changing settings, sources etc. is fast enough.
- All basic apps such as Youtube, Netflix, Kodi work without any problem. One exemption is Youtube and 4K/60fps videos. YT app struggles to play them. What is interesting exactly the same files are played perfectly after downloading them to USB stick and using any video player. There is no problem with YT app and 4K/30fps and lower resolution videos.
- System becomes less responsive if the processor is busy with decoding high resolution videos. In such a case it takes a while to open main menu, settings etc. This is annoying however the solution is simple. Just pause the video playback before you go to settings and everything will work snappier.
- I turned off all animations in developer options as I don't need them and this improved the speed of operation a bit
- I use Android 7. Haven't updated to 8 so can't comment on the performance of the latter. I like version 7
- If you want perfectly fluid android experience do not buy X900F. It won't deliver it and you will be disappointed. However if Android is not at the top of your priority list then X900F is a great TV with very good picture quality

Initially I considered getting 55'' X95G however after visiting my local shop I realised how important the screen size is for me, especially for 4K content and how it affects overall viewing experience. For that reason I decided to buy 65'' X900F (5 years extended warranty was included) for less than the cost of 55'' X95G and I'm very happy with my choice. I don't game on my TV apart from Flight Simulator from time to time so the input lag is not important to me at all. I game on PC and 240Hz monitor which is completely different story.... 2 extra speakers and two more 4K/60 inputs are not important as well as I can use AV Receiver with full HDMI ports. Even if Android start to become annoying I can buy Nvidia Shield or some other Android box which will offer more options than Android on X95G however so far I don't see a reason to do that. But there is nothing which can make up for a bigger screen size. This is just my reasoning. Yours could be completely different.

X95G is very good TV but just too pricey (in Europe) for what it offers. Unfortunately it is not innovative comparing to their predecessors in terms of picture quality which is disappointing and this also affected my choice.
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Sony contrast "evolution" for 3 years - XE900 (6534:1)- XF900 (5725:1)- XG950 (4833:1). Good results
Yet the perceived picture is the opposite, though close. 900e actually had the worst blooming of the 3.
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Yet the perceived picture is the opposite, though close. 900e actually had the worst blooming of the 3.
900E has less zones but the differences are minor. On the other hand it has deepest blacks.
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Seems that you no longer have any interest in ever owning a 950g.
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Sony should buy their displays from Samsung. Just like they buy their OLED'S from LG. Using Samsung's qled + sony's processor= win.

Sony already buys its LCD panels from an external manufacturer.
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The X900F crashes all the time when I try to play basic 1080p video files over USB and the remote control is trash.

950G is probably worth it to me just for the OS and chip, even if the picture quality is the same.
I have had many Sony bravia 4k tvs and this literally never happens. My dad also has a 65 850e and plays uncompressed 4k blu ray rips from a hard drive I gave him and this literally never happens. There may be an issue with an app you've installed or with your video files.

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Yet the perceived picture is the opposite, though close. 900e actually had the worst blooming of the 3.
Depends on how you qualify "worst" It was the least bright, so the blooming was less bright as well but it had the lowest amount of zones so it covered the largest area. If you used some bias lighting, since the blooming wasn't that bright, you could "mask" it pretty easily...In extreme shots it was a bit easier to make out like the last pic of the show godless. But if the blooming were brighter, it would be harder to mask...

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Vince's compare vid clearly showed it to be so. Also has to do with zone control and processing, not just number of zones. Yes, blooming will be proportionately brighter on a brighter set but overall shallower blacks and bloom spread are more detrimental to PQ. Last I checked, more brightness capability is not considered a flaw, especially when the backlight can be reduced if preferred. The way this forum dismisses processing as an important part of PQ genuinely puzzles me. I'm not referring to you with that.

900e has "shallowest blacks... Blooming extended further"

Don't get me wrong. I think all these sets are good for most purposes but Sony is far from sitting still in this segment. They're not perfect and may choose different tradeoffs than a buyer prefers (like x-angle) but they are not resting on their elbows. Sony may be in conflict about viewing angle. They still sell a lot of IPS TVs so I suspect they view it as an important attribute.

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the remote control is trash.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussion...with-the-x900f
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6500:1 vs 5700:1. Numbers tell different things
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sorry for my ignorance. I am observing many users who had previous models and now owns the X95G and some reviews in the exteriror (German reviews, two Chinese and one French) that say that the black level of this TV is excellent and even better.

One question, how can its black level be better if the contrast is inferior to the X90E and X90F models?
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6500:1 vs 5700:1. Numbers tell different things

Those ratios are destroyed when light bleed pollutes surrounding areas. See the Samsung Ks8000, which is edge lit. The native contrast ratio was wrecked because of light pollution from the edge lit nature.
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the remote control is trash.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussion...with-the-x900f
I know, I was the one who asked the question to them 😉
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I know, I was the one who asked the question to them 😉
Good. So others will also know.
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6500:1 vs 5700:1. Numbers tell different things
Go tell Vincent. I'm sure he'll change his assessment. Perhaps Quantum will back you up.
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Vince's compare vid clearly showed it to be so. Also has to do with zone control and processing, not just number of zones. Yes, blooming will be proportionately brighter on a brighter set but overall shallower blacks and bloom spread are more detrimental to PQ. Last I checked, more brightness capability is not considered a flaw, especially when the backlight can be reduced if preferred. The way this forum dismisses processing as an important part of PQ genuinely puzzles me. I'm not referring to you with that.

https://youtu.be/t0GzpKxakZM
900e has "shallowest blacks... Blooming extended further"

Don't get me wrong. I think all these sets are good for most purposes but Sony is far from sitting still in this segment. They're not perfect and may choose different tradeoffs than a buyer prefers (like x-angle) but they are not resting on their elbows. Sony may be in conflict about viewing angle. They still sell a lot of IPS TVs so I suspect they view it as an important attribute.
I agree picture processing is a huge piece of the equation. Sony's picture processing is the reason I've only bought Sony TVs for years. Nobody else comes close, upscaling, motion, etc. Sony wins.

But, and maybe it's because I hang out in forums like these and don't typically read Best Buy reviews, the one consistent complaint from all Sony lovers since the 900e has been the blooming. I can't imagine it would cost much more to throw in a few extra rows of LED lights. They aren't expensive. Sony can do more than most with fewer zones, but how much money would it cost to add those extra zones? It's not like Sony TVs aren't the most expensive when they come out...I'm sure they have room in their margins...

I think X-Wide Angle is a bad move. They should have made it as an option, not forcing it on people. I know a lot of people who wouldn't buy a Sony TV with X-Wide angle. Most people who want wide viewing angles and don't mind the lack of contrast and blooming aren't spending top dollar on a tv. They can live with a middle of the road Samsung or Vizio and most probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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I completely agree but I'm thinking zone count needs to change by more than a few for a significant change. Perhaps a factor of 2 or higher. Twice the zone count only reduces the zone size by around 29% in each direction even though the zone volume is halved.
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Those ratios are destroyed when light bleed pollutes surrounding areas. See the Samsung Ks8000, which is edge lit. The native contrast ratio was wrecked because of light pollution from the edge lit nature.
I started doing my TV research when the 900e came out and was not satisfied with it's performance. The 930e was noticeable better. That changed with the 900f as it crossed a threshold for me. I'll have to see a 950 in person but it wouldn't surprise me if it looked a bit better again in real viewing.
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Those ratios are destroyed when light bleed pollutes surrounding areas. See the Samsung Ks8000, which is edge lit. The native contrast ratio was wrecked because of light pollution from the edge lit nature.
But the numbers say!...
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900E has less zones but the differences are minor. On the other hand it has deepest blacks.

As black levels raise, blooming is noticed less. Blooming is more noticeable on my 909 than my 900E, even though it has more zones at 46” than my 900E does at 65”. The 909 has better black levels, the 900E is relatively gray in all picture modes and settings. Easier to see blooming with lower black levels.


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