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The 85" is the only set not priced yet but given the 75" comes in at 3.5K one could assume it will be priced at 5K or 6K. If so great price, esp. since a few Chinese sites that have early reviews seem to say this TV has amazing PQ.

Might be the best deal of this year if true...
Link please for the reviews.
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Link please for the reviews.
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Those are definitely high words. Both reviews say the black levels are OLED-like with minimal blooming. The only ‘disappointing’ thing they mention is the color volume doesn’t seem to be as high (comparable to the 900F). Even so, if those words stay true to the consumer units, these sound like they’ll be great models and better than the Z9F. Now I’m seriously curious about the bigger models (75” and 85”) and how much better the Z9G will be if at all (don’t care about 8K).
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I'll also be keeping on eye of the 85". Between this, the rumored 2019 Samsung 4K 82" or even the 82" 8K model (10K) it's shaping up to be a good year for large screens that don't compromise on PQ...
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75" inch is the one that I'm looking forward to. Need more reviews of the larger size. Pricing is encouraging.
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Design wise I prefer Q9, however hardware wise this Sony wins. From review, looks better than the "master" series Z9F.
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2199 for the 65" as the starting msrp is really good. This is their highest end 65" 4K led. Now I need to have patience and wait for those November prices. I also really want to go 75 or even 85 if possible.

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HDMI earc is on the 950g which should just pass through the DTS from what I have read.

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eARC will support the latest high-bitrate audio formats including DTS Master, DTS:X, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Atmos and more. Existing ARC-capable high speed hdmi cables will work but both devices, source and sink will need to have the HDMI chipsets (HDMI 2.1) to take full advantage of eARC. While eARC is part of the HDMI 2.1 hardware options, it is supposed to be supported by the HDMI 2.0b hardware as well should the mfr choose to firmware upgrade the chipsets. My guess most mfrs won't do that because they can just upgrade their HDMI 2.0b chipsets on the new sets, call it HDMI 2.1 and charge a premium price for the new tv's. Sony did this very thing years ago when HDMI 2.0 was first introduced. They just upped the clock speed of HDMI 1.4 to the gray area between HDMI 1.4 and 2.0 and called it HDMI 2.0, which was technically correct.


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eARC will support the latest high-bitrate audio formats including DTS Master, DTS:X, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Atmos and more. Existing ARC-capable high speed hdmi cables will work but both devices, source and sink will need to have the HDMI chipsets (HDMI 2.1) to take full advantage of eARC. While eARC is part of the HDMI 2.1 hardware options, it is supposed to be supported by the HDMI 2.0b hardware as well should the mfr choose to firmware upgrade the chipsets. My guess most mfrs won't do that because they can just upgrade their HDMI 2.0b chipsets on the new sets, call it HDMI 2.1 and charge a premium price for the new tv's. Sony did this very thing years ago when HDMI 2.0 was first introduced. They just upped the clock speed of HDMI 1.4 to the gray area between HDMI 1.4 and 2.0 and called it HDMI 2.0, which was technically correct.


What would be nice is if the mfrs lists HDMI 2.1 as a new feature on the their sets, they list which options are available. Fully compliant HDMI 2.1 (48Gbps) with all options enabled or just some.
Sony has released a firmware update for its HT-ST5000, HT-Z9F (HT-ZF9) and HT-X9000F (HT-XF9000) soundbar that adds eARC support. The STR-DN1080 and STR-DH790 AV receivers have also received the eARC update.



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Anyone knows the brightness nits on this tv?

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Sony has released a firmware update for its HT-ST5000, HT-Z9F (HT-ZF9) and HT-X9000F (HT-XF9000) soundbar that adds eARC support. The STR-DN1080 and STR-DH790 AV receivers have also received the eARC update.



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That's good to know then. Are they calling it "HDMI 2.1 update" or just an eARC update? Hopefully it works well.

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That's good to know then. Are they calling it "HDMI 2.1 update" or just an eARC update? Hopefully it works well.
Earc update.

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Good. Sounds like maybe Sony learned their lesson from the "HDMI 2.0 upgrade" problem.

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Not sure if this worth anything at all, but B&H Photo (authorized Sony dealer) has the X950G's (most sizes) up on their website along with pricing. Of course they're pre-orders. That said, if the pricing is correct, they're listing the 65" for $2199. As of now, pricing is still not on Sony's website.

Those prices seem not to bad, not crazy anyways. I sure hope the 950G is as good as we expect.
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Interested in the 65", I Don't want to wait for November, curious to see the pricing fall lower soon. Can't remember what the 900F started at?
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Interested in the 65", I Don't want to wait for November, curious to see the pricing fall lower soon. Can't remember what the 900F started at?
at least 2000+ from what I can remember in that Joelster youtube when he visited frys several months back.

900e was 2500 then dropped to 1500 quick. X900F hovers at 1600.. these are for 65".

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/sony-br...5x900f-review/

Damn. These things are OP as hell. Super fat margins. Vizio P and TCL 6 didn't drop nowhere near as much.. except Vizio PQ.
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I was set on buying the 900F but this model is really making me think twice.
The prices of the 900F have dropped this week pre-Super Bowl and after that, I don't want to buy a returned product lol.
(after some college kids buy one for the game and return it)

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2199 for the 65" as the starting msrp is really good. This is their highest end 65" 4K led.
Huh? What about the Z9F? Or are you just one of those guys that hates it due to X Wide messing up the blacks? I still don't think I'd say this is higher-end, though.. just different (and that's assuming it doesn't have X Wide, too).
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Huh? What about the Z9F? Or are you just one of those guys that hates it due to X Wide messing up the blacks? I still don't think I'd say this is higher-end, though.. just different (and that's assuming it doesn't have X Wide, too).
Woops, meant 2019 models.

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65X900F started at $2300.. so this set is actually cheaper despite inflation.

Personally, and I hate to disagree with all of you guys on how awesome this TV may be, but I don't think it's going to be a game-changer or anything of the sort. I think it'll be a slightly tweaked X900 and priced as such. I've been holding out and researching for months, and I think I'll probably end up with an X900 once I feel the prices have hit rock-bottom.

If this TV had HDMI 2.1, it would be a different story. But IMO, take the cheap X900 now and then upgrade to something nicer than the X950 a few years down the road that is more future-proof.

I eyed the 65Z9D's for too long at $2000 and now they're all gone. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing that $1899 priced one I saw on Amazon.

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Damn. These things are OP as hell. Super fat margins.
Yep and this thread is a great representation of why.
Luxury items... (of which this is at the cusp)
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Fair enough, however I don't think Sony designs their high-end TV's with a one year life-cycle in mind. Judging by the Z9D, they've learned that the higher-end stuff is good enough to sell for a few years. I'm still wondering if an X900G will even be a thing, or if they'll bother (doubt they will, tbh, especially given the pricing on the X950G. Of course I seem to disagree with the "Chinese reviews" but I'd think the X900 @ $1600 would seriously undercut X950 sales.. 65" models).
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Those are definitely high words. Both reviews say the black levels are OLED-like with minimal blooming. The only ‘disappointing’ thing they mention is the color volume doesn’t seem to be as high (comparable to the 900F). Even so, if those words stay true to the consumer units, these sound like they’ll be great models and better than the Z9F. Now I’m seriously curious about the bigger models (75” and 85”) and how much better the Z9G will be if at all (don’t care about 8K).
Well have to see how it plays out, if these are that good why buy a Z9F / Z9G ?
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Well have to see how it plays out, if these are that good why buy a Z9F / Z9G ?

Agree. Though ditching X Wide on the 55/65 could prove some interesting contrast ratio measurements. It will by default have a higher native contrast ratio. Kind of an odd thing.
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Well have to see how it plays out, if these are that good why buy a Z9F / Z9G ?
Assuming those impressions/reviews stay true, it seems the color volume on the Z9F is better, not by a lot but it does seem to have wider gamut as well.

And the Z9G has 8K which some people might actually want, and it could also have better color volume, and who knows, maybe even more dimming zones for even less blooming.

It’ll definitely be interesting to see how these models pan out when compared to each other, and compared to other brands too.

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even more dimming zones for even less blooming.
Without any doubt. Sony knows line ranging perfectly and don't give anything in excess of for shure
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Am I the only one who wants the OLED line but am scared of burn in?

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Absolutely not. I would have one if there were no burn in risk and no banding issues (which are probably more okay now).


This X950G looks to have promise, but I don't think it will be in any way enough to justify moving from by current X900F for me. Will wait for reviews.
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Well have to see how it plays out, if these are that good why buy a Z9F / Z9G ?
Very simple. The 65 x950g lacks x-wide, which means contrast will be better than z9f. The z9f only gets .150 nits on HDR. I'm sure the x950g will be closer to the x930e's contrast ratio which gets .05 or less on HDR. With the z9d gone, it looks like the x950g will be the best 65inch LED option.

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Fair enough, however I don't think Sony designs their high-end TV's with a one year life-cycle in mind. Judging by the Z9D, they've learned that the higher-end stuff is good enough to sell for a few years. I'm still wondering if an X900G will even be a thing, or if they'll bother (doubt they will, tbh, especially given the pricing on the X950G. Of course I seem to disagree with the "Chinese reviews" but I'd think the X900 @ $1600 would seriously undercut X950 sales.. 65" models).
The X900G is simply the 49X900F continued https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/televisions/xg9005-series
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