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Can someone else who owns this TV confirm if Dolby Vision via the native Vudu app (or any of the native apps other than Netflix) successfully play with Dolby Vision? I am suspecting there is something funky going on and the only supported app is Netflix.
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There normally hasn't been any difference between top of the line and entry model Android TV by Sony. This year seems to mark a change: the only models with the upgrade SoC are (besides the A9F and Z9F): A9G, Z9G, X950G and X850G (as listed on the sheet).
Perhaps they felt the upgrade to Oreo made the previous SoC still acceptable in performance. The A8G, X900G (49" only, available in Europe for one) are examples of models positioned above the X850G yet didn't get an upgrade. They for example also still have two instead of four full bandwidth HDMI 2.0 ports. Models with the new processor are on a new platform with four full (18Gbps) bandwidth HDMI ports.

That's what makes the availability of eARC an easy shortcut to check if a model has the new processor (I believe the old one is incapable/incompatible).
So long as the Android TV menu and apps is as fast on the 850G as the new 950G that's all I'm after for now, I just don't want the same complaints as I have been seeing with the 900F with regards to how slow things are.
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Okay, some quick Google translating:

"Save up to 60% on launching apps and returning to the home menu compared to previous Sony Android TV's.

Also makes for an even better TV experience."


I am guessing then that it seems to be suggesting that specifically YouTube/Netflix/Home Menu will be 50/60/30% faster than previous Sony Android TVs as well. If that's the case then this is good news for those who want Android TV, want it to be as fast as the 950G but don't want a super high end TV like that. They just want a better Android TV experience with a more modern processor.
There normally hasn't been any difference between top of the line and entry model Android TV by Sony. This year seems to mark a change: the only models with the upgrade SoC are (besides the A9F and Z9F): A9G, Z9G, X950G and X850G (as listed on the sheet).
Perhaps they felt the upgrade to Oreo made the previous SoC still acceptable in performance. The A8G, X900G (49" only, available in Europe for one) are examples of models positioned above the X850G yet didn't get an upgrade. They for example also still have two instead of four full bandwidth HDMI 2.0 ports. Models with the new processor are on a new platform with four full (18Gbps) bandwidth HDMI ports.

That's what makes the availability of eARC an easy shortcut to check if a model has the new processor (I believe the old one is incapable/incompatible).
Looks like the 800G will have more ram even though it's using the old SOC.

Odd.

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Looks like the 800G will have more ram even though it's using the old SOC.

Odd.

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they should rename themselves to 'displayspeculations' instead. 4GB? Only the A9F and Z9F have 4GB of RAM, the new ones have 2.5GB now with the new processor. The ones with the old processor I don't expect any changes from before, not even RAM.
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So long as the Android TV menu and apps is as fast on the 850G as the new 950G that's all I'm after for now, I just don't want the same complaints as I have been seeing with the 900F with regards to how slow things are.
Well have to see how that goes thru the year......as more people get units.
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What are you thinking, will there be a firmware update to realise 60hz panel frequency in game mode? There are many tvs that can do that and sony with his gaming console should do it for the ps4 owners 😉 BFI on level 3 is just too dark and there is no possibility to really brighten up the display
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Big problem with my new 65" 950G. About once an hour the screen goes black and it reboots. I've tried everything including a factory reset. I guess it's off to Best Buy for an exchange.

EDIT/UPDATE: Best Buy delivered a replacement set. This time, while setting it up, I did not connect it to the internet, just in case that was the cause of the previous spontaneous rebooting problem. I'm not convinced that was the cause, but since I prefer to use external streaming devices, I set up the replacement as a “dumb” TV. This one seems to be working fine with no spontaneous rebooting problems.

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Well, my 75X940E died. Replacement 75X950G is on the way, so checking in to my new home I guess.

Wow. It's taken until pg. 22 before someone actually has the tv..

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It was.. Disappointing. I loved that TV.

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It was.. Disappointing. I loved that TV.
Surprised you went with another Sony since it died so quick.
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So I've read through 57 pages of this owners thread. Not many owners here discussing settings and such. I see that some of the menus, options, and settings will be different than the 940e that I'll be used to.

Anyone care to share what picture, motion, and other settings you have settled on so I have a starting point? Especially 75" owners.

This TV will be in a family room with some windows and lights. No direct reflections from the main viewing location. Some dim lighting on in the nighttime. Fed mostly a variety of streaming content via an AppleTv4k.

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Well, my 75X940E died. Replacement 75X950G is on the way, so checking in to my new home I guess.

Wow. It's taken until pg. 22 before someone actually has the tv..
Warranty replacement? The 75Z9F would be a more like-for-like replacement than the X950G ...
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So I've read through 57 pages of this owners thread. Not many owners here discussing settings and such. I see that some of the menus, options, and settings will be different than the 940e that I'll be used to.

Anyone care to share what picture, motion, and other settings you have settled on so I have a starting point? Especially 75" owners.

This TV will be in a family room with some windows and lights. No direct reflections from the main viewing location. Some dim lighting on in the nighttime. Fed mostly a variety of streaming content via an AppleTv4k.
In for this.... nearly the same stuff for me
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So, Game of Thrones had their epic battle tonight.
Tons of black screens.
How did the 950G do with it all in your opinion?

My old Sony rear projection tv from 2004 was epic.
In that it was horribly bad.
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Do you feel like it might be a dealbreaker or you can live with it?

Ive got some lights behind me and feel they would reflect a lot with the 950G compared to the Q9FN.

Today I went to a store to check again the 950G. Didnt see many reflections in the screen but colors were Too "light" IMO. Overall image lacked any WOW factor, which I get most times with my Q9FN. Motion was really good on the other hand.

I think my two biggest concerns with the 950G right now are the very soft colours (I like vibrancy) and the reflection handling, which most owners seem to agree that isnt very good.


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Samsung blows colors out of proportion making them way more vibrant compared to real life. I find that completely unacceptable but a lot of people find it more pretty. Thats why i hated AMOLED screens in phones. Now you got options to change the color modes but in the past we did not have that so i got phones with LCD because of that.

If you like unrealistic vibrant colors samsung is the way to go. Sony is very close to how its supposed to be and thus very neutral.

With calibration the Samsung will get better bu i guess thats not what you want then. Sony also has a Vivid option you could try that one.
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I own a 55-X850c that I love, but my wife and I were thinking we would really like a 75" for our main living room in the basement. I don't know everything about the technical aspects but read reviews and can understand enough to get by.

Yesterday I went to Best Buy where they have the 950G and 900F right next to each other. The salesman played the Dark Knight scene when they interrogate the Joker in a dark room. The 950G black levels were incredible compared to the 900F. The 900F looked gray and washed out. The 950G blacks were more comparable to the OLED sitting right next to it. I am not saying they were as good, but they were a lot closer to the OLED than to the 900F. To be fair, he said they do not calibrate the TVs, they are probably set to Vivid. With that said, I am still torn on purchasing a brand new model and paying a premium. Can anybody convince me otherwise?

Please!! convince me haha.
The store screwed up then because the difference should not be that big. They may have intentionally handicapped the 900F. If you calibrate both they should look quite similar.

That said any tv will be a huge upgrade compared to your X850C. I also owned a 75X850C for a year but i sucked hard compared to the 940E i have now. Local dimming is awesome compared to no local dimming at all. And i think the 55 was also an IPS screen? VA has nicer contrast. But the X950G has X-Wide so a lot of that contrast is going to be lost. Its still quite a bit higher compared to a IPS screen.

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Is there any blooming on this TV? Thinking about getting this for my gazebo.
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XBR65X850A owner, should I upgrade?

I currently have a XBR65X850A. Game of Thrones looked terrible last night. The gradation in the dark scenes was terrible.


I could fit a 70" but not a 75" in my space, so I guess I am sticking with a 65".

I often watch sports (soccer, NFL, F1) but also things like Game of Thrones.

I would prefer to get something that supports HDR10 and Dolby Vision.

I am worrier so I am not interested in OLED. I have 6 full glass doors that flank my viewing area which I will not close. I need a bright TV and low reflections. Reflections and gradation are the two most annoying things about a TV for me.

Will this be a good upgrade? Or should I be looking at something else?

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So, Game of Thrones had their epic battle tonight.
Tons of black screens.
How did the 950G do with it all in your opinion?
I came to ask the exact same question.

Also - is there a native TwitchTV app on this panel? Samsung just deleted their only TwitchTV app and I’m not happy about it.

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Is there any blooming on this TV? Thinking about getting this for my gazebo.
According to reviews and owner's comments there's very visible blooming.

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I currently have a XBR65X850A. Game of Thrones looked terrible last night. The gradation in the dark scenes was terrible.





I could fit a 70" but not a 75" in my space, so I guess I am sticking with a 65".



I often watch sports (soccer, NFL, F1) but also things like Game of Thrones.



I would prefer to get something that supports HDR10 and Dolby Vision.



I am worrier so I am not interested in OLED. I have 6 full glass doors that flank my viewing area which I will not close. I need a bright TV and low reflections. Reflections and gradation are the two most annoying things about a TV for me.



Will this be a good upgrade? Or should I be looking at something else?



Thanks!
The TV is super reflective. Go to a store and check it out. Also owners here have commented on it.

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Don't know what is the reason behind ditching X930E route and instead relying and working on X900F which was a huge step-down from 2017 C.F. I was really expecting X950G to be worked up model of X930E and was very disappointed on its release.
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Thanks for the advice! I went to the store and bought a 65" LG C9.
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So, Game of Thrones had their epic battle tonight.
Tons of black screens.
How did the 950G do with it all in your opinion?

My old Sony rear projection tv from 2004 was epic.
In that it was horribly bad.
GOT S8 E3. I watched it in on Netflix app. Max brightness, Max x-contrast, black detail booster and etc. Could see everything fine. Looked awesome.

Looked even better on my Vizio Quantum though. Better reflection handling.
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GOT S8 E3. I watched it in on Netflix app. Max brightness, Max x-contrast, black detail booster and etc. Could see everything fine. Looked awesome.

Looked even better on my Vizio Quantum though. Better reflection handling.
Thanks!
Literally, I could not see a thing.
Good to know it handles it well.

Cheers!
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Angry Sony XBR-85x950G - vertical waves on glass

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I got the new 85 inch TV from Sony yesterday - xbr-85x950G.
At night, the picture is wonderful.
However, as soon as there is a light source in the room, or light form the outside - wavy reflections appear on the screen (even when it is off - so probably the physical screen).
Is this common, should I ask for a replacement or is that just the way it is?


Thank you
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That is completely normal and is caused by the x-wide angle layer. My Z9F reflects the same way.
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GOT S8 E3. I watched it in on Netflix app. Max brightness, Max x-contrast, black detail booster and etc. Could see everything fine. Looked awesome.

Looked even better on my Vizio Quantum though. Better reflection handling.
Couple of questions; How did you watch via the Netflix app? Also, regardless of the app you used- It's not an HDR show. Are you saying you had to MAX the brightness, and make all those tweaks to your sdr picture settings to get an acceptable picture for GOT?

Thanks!

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Hi,
I got the new 85 inch TV from Sony yesterday - xbr-85x950G.
At night, the picture is wonderful.
However, as soon as there is a light source in the room, or light form the outside - wavy reflections appear on the screen (even when it is off - so probably the physical screen).
Is this common, should I ask for a replacement or is that just the way it is?


Thank you
Joey
If that's not the pattern of the curtains on the windows opposite the tv, and if it's plainly visible while playing content in the day time, I'd say something is definitely off.

We have a large tv in the family room as well. You may need quite different sdr brightness settings for daylight viewing and night.

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