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post #2191 of 2406 Old 07-12-2019, 05:03 AM
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A significant upgrade for the 950G is it comes with a BS4K tuner in Japan. Japan began 4K and 8K broadcasting in December 2018. The Sony BS4K tuner sold separately for older 4K TVs costs 50,000 yen.

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New owner of the 75" x950g (previous plasma Samsung 64f8500-now in bedroom).
I'm liking this new set a lot. Great for sports/fast action, Black levels are actually better than I expected they would be, hearing comments and reviews from many that probably don't own this set, I was skeptical and a bit worried before purchase, but since setting up and having it for over a week now, I can say with certainty that my concerns were unwarranted. This set looks fantastic.
I don't watch in a completely dark room. There is always some light, usually very dim when watching movies, but blooming is really a non-issue for me, hardly noticeable if present at all. I really have to strain my eyes to try to see any bloom so, to me, I think it's really a lot to do about nothin'.

From my experience so far, this set is a winner! Very happy with my purchase!
Just like the 900F before this unit, was the top mid product to buy Very popular she is.

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I personally liked the A9F much better. They are two different types of tv's though. The A9F was much cleaner via a cable signal and the tilt design was actually quite helpful at reducing glare. I'd go OLED over Q-LED.
Sure the A9F is the better set, but they do not make those over 75" and they where more cash usually.......
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Yes, I use it daily. With Sony HT-Z9F

I heard that sometime this year the Apple TV app will be added to the Sony 2019 series TVs. Does this mean that with Apple TV, I can view on my x950G in 4K UHD / Dolby Vision / Dolby Atmos the iTunes movies that support those formats?
You mean apple airplay? That means you can stream your apple account movies to your tv. Just like Google play. Not sure about the quality that will be available to stream. Only way to guarantee is to buy apple tv 4k device.
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Just purchased my 85". Can't wait to get it! ...will be a very long week...
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Considering a 75" X950G to replace a failing 65" 1080p TV. Nothing smart (no apps) about my current TV so I have some questions regarding the built-in apps and how they work:

1) Is eARC just for the built-in apps or will it also work for anything attached to the HDMI ports on the TV?
2) Do the built-in apps automatically switch frame rate and dynamic range like on an Apple TV 4K or Fire TV Stick 4K?
3) I'm assuming (b/c even my current TV can) unique settings can be saved per HDMI port? How does that work with the built-in apps - is there a way to save different settings for them?
4) Are the built-in apps the same as the Shield TV (or any other Android TV device for that matter) or are they something special for Sony TVs?
5) Is the Netflix calibrated mode available for external Netflix apps?

Couple other questions
6) I don't game but I use a HTPC for madVR playback of BR rips and OTA recordings. Would I still use the game mode when connecting my PC to this TV? Also, would I be selecting 8 or 10-bit in the nVidia control panel?
7) What's the distance between the legs?

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Lightning strike last night took out my TV I am looking to upgrade to the xbr 950g probably not a question for this tread however I have a older Bose theater system that doesn't support 4k how can I use the Bose system for sound with this new TV?

Thank you in advance for your help.
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Purchasing 950g

Hello All,


I am looking to move up from my 1080p to 4k and would appreciate input from everyone here based on my usage as to whether the 950g would be a good choice.

Size to be 65"

I sit directly in front of the tv in a bright room. No reflections from windows.
The tv is used as my computer monitor, watching movies on disc, and gaming.
Most reviews have been good - a bit concerned about the blooming issue that has been commented on. I never watch movies with subtitles - is this issue only about subtitles? Would this have any affect when using the computer as a monitor?
I do play games that have text dialog displayed on a black background (Fallout, Skyrim, etc.) and am concerned about this.

My son wants the 75" for his house. Same usage as above.

One last question, I read somewhere that when the set is powered up the first time you have to accept Google terms & conditions or the set is unusable. I do not have internet service so does that mean the set will not function?

Thanks in advance for the help
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Upgraded from 2012 LG PM6700 (60" 3D Plasma) to the 65" 950G. I have plenty to read up on.

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Are there any good comparisons around between the 75 and 65 x95g? Most reviews seem to be based on the smaller models but would like some confidence that the X-Wide won't have a huge impact on quality. TIA.
I know that Rtings reviewed the 55" model and FlatpanelsHD reviewed the 75" model. Not the same source but they make comments regarding the X Wide Angle layer.

Here are my own thoughts, albeit, a bit panel-specific and most people probably have different feelings based on having received a better 65" panel. So far, I've streamed television shows, movies and sports, and a variety of content from my Plex server, Youtube, Amazon and Netflix in "4K" and regular HD streaming quality.

I initially bought the 65" x950g and owned it for two weeks. My comments are regarding the specific screen that I received: there were significant screen uniformity issues and I noticed a vertical line going down the middle of the screen, that, once I noticed, I couldn't take my eyes off of. Being sure that I received a defective set, and seeing that I had a lot more room left over in the wall cutout than I originally anticipated, I exchanged the 65" for the 75" x950g. The 75" panel that I received does not have the same defects as the previous panel (again, probably just specific to me). The increase in size alone has been fantastic as I was coming from a 55" Sony HX929. I haven't noticed any decreased brightness with the X Wide Angle layer, but I do most of my viewing from directly in front of the tv anyways. Overall, I've been blown away by the 75" model.
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I have tried to read through the entire thread (lots of info), but didn't seem to see much about a possible issue I am experiencing. I took delivery of a 65" X950G yesterday and set it up last night. My biggest concern from reading through this thread was blooming and, while there is some blooming, it is not enough to make me worry too much. But, during pure black screens (loading, cuts, etc) without any other images, I am getting white splotches over the entirety of the screen. A Google search brought me to the term "cloudiness". Is this a common issue, or is this a panel lottery thing? I do have auto dimming on high, brightness at 15 and the light sensor off. I have been trying to tweak the settings per information in this thread, and I will still be tweaking them a month from now probably. Any help would be appreciated.
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Just can't decide. Got enough saved for an LG 77 C9. But I just can't make up my mind if it's worth it or if I should just get a 75 X950G and upgrade my sub to a dual 18 for less money.

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Right out of the box - is this normal?

No !Think the Backplate is to tight on that spot.
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I'm using RTings settings for my 940E/950G/900E's. I simply changed the brightness level on the 950G and 900E's for the rooms they are in. It's a good base. I'm not saying it's as good as professional calibration but you have to remember that in HDR or DV, the panel sets all your settings for those. So for me it's really getting it calibrated to get a better picture out of your 720p cable source, which to my eyes, there is nothing significant that can be done there other than motion settings. 1080i, for lack of a better word, sucks. It sucks more and more for me as I go from my 900E 49" displays, to the 950G 55" display, and the worst is the 75" 940E. As the image gets blown up, or moving up in size it gets worse. When the source is 1080p, the upscaling is magnificent. The upscaling is excellent making a 1080p disc not 4k quality but getting it a good chunk of the way there. I simply don't watch 1080i content on my 75" panel save for something big, like a grand slam tennis tournament, the Superbowl or Football games in general, etc. Cable/Satellite viewing is done on smaller displays where it doesn't look as poor.



My 2 sore spots right now is Netflix not offering 4k discs in their snail mail program, and Satellite/Cable not updating to at least 1080p content across the board. At this point, and I don't really honestly know how long I've had "HD" satellite service, over 10 years, probably going back to 2007 iirc, but it's been over a decade and they need to get their S together. I updated all my Satellite hardware last year to 4k capable (4k Hopper/Joeys) yet the content providers are still stuck in 1080i land. Many of my movie channels are still in g damn SD.
If you want DTV 1080i upscaled to 1080P look for a Denon 602 Ci. It's a VP that does a beautiful job of upscaling 1080i. However, it won't pass 4k through though so you have to figure out a way to get around that for channels 104 to 107.

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I know that Rtings reviewed the 55" model and FlatpanelsHD reviewed the 75" model. Not the same source but they make comments regarding the X Wide Angle layer.

Here are my own thoughts, albeit, a bit panel-specific and most people probably have different feelings based on having received a better 65" panel. So far, I've streamed television shows, movies and sports, and a variety of content from my Plex server, Youtube, Amazon and Netflix in "4K" and regular HD streaming quality.

I initially bought the 65" x950g and owned it for two weeks. My comments are regarding the specific screen that I received: there were significant screen uniformity issues and I noticed a vertical line going down the middle of the screen, that, once I noticed, I couldn't take my eyes off of. Being sure that I received a defective set, and seeing that I had a lot more room left over in the wall cutout than I originally anticipated, I exchanged the 65" for the 75" x950g. The 75" panel that I received does not have the same defects as the previous panel (again, probably just specific to me). The increase in size alone has been fantastic as I was coming from a 55" Sony HX929. I haven't noticed any decreased brightness with the X Wide Angle layer, but I do most of my viewing from directly in front of the tv anyways. Overall, I've been blown away by the 75" model.
Thanks for the info! I think I would be more comfortable knowing I could swap it out if I was unhappy but that isn't an option over here.. Still debating whether to go the 75" x950g or 65" LG OLED. How are you finding the black levels and contrast?

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I've been stalking this thread since March as I'm ready to upgrade from my 2012 55" Sony HX 850, which replaced a 2007 40" Sony XBR4 (both of which still work but are showing age). Just wanted to say these owner reviews (good and bad) steered me away from a 65" Z9F to a 65" X950G (I don't feel, from what I read, that the Z9F is worth the $1,300 difference and I have a bright living room). As a casual gamer, OLED caught my eye but even the remote risk of burn-in isn't acceptable. The x950G seems like the perfect "Master Series-lite" compromise. Delivery is for Saturday morning and the intention is this set will tie me over to MicroLED. Looking forward to joining the 4k crowd finally!

Again, I'll be checking for setting info but just wanted to say thanks for all of the eyewitness reports (they are helpful!)
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Same as xf9005. These sets are not for HDR and dark room watching.
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If you want DTV 1080i upscaled to 1080P look for a Denon 602 Ci. It's a VP that does a beautiful job of upscaling 1080i. However, it won't pass 4k through though so you have to figure out a way to get around that for channels 104 to 107.

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I have had the TV about 3 weeks and absolutely love it. I purchased from Value Electronics and had them qc the panel, break it in and then calibrate it. Picture is fantastic and I'm glad I went with the 85" vs the 77 LG OLED. I am running an Anthem MRX 720, Panny 9000 UHD Blue ray and have a 5.1.2 set up with RSL CG 23's, Speedwoofer sub and their C34E in ceiling speakers for Atmos. I finished off the system with Hue Play backlighting that I set for daylight color. All controlled by Harmony Elite remote with my equipment behind the wall on a rack under my basement stairs on the unfinished side. No issues with remote and it works flawlessly. My family room TV is still my Elite Kuro 8G so I am coming from a Plasma for comparison.

Anyhow, the picture is fantastic and I would not hesitate to buy this TV again. I have had no issues so far. Blooming to me is insignificant and the reflection issue I don't have as the TV is in my finished basement with no windows shining on the TV. Sound with the RSL set up if fantastic and I've tested out the atmos on several movies (Saving Private Ryan and Blackhawk Down) and Atmos is cool. TV is also mounted on a Sanus full motion mount (VE install guys did a great job) and that makes making connections with wires a piece of cake. I have to say watching a 4k movie is awesome on this TV, makes my Kuro 60 Inch look like 40 inch TV to me now. A bonus with this setup btw is Alexa can control this as well. The US Open at Pebble Beach with the Direct TV 4k channel was fantastic. Detail was sharp as hell. I like the off axis viewing as I have nice L couch set up and a recliner off axis and I have sat many time on the recliner and feel no loss in pic quality vs sitting straight on. I have put my Band of Brothers Blu Ray and the picture looks equally stunning to me.

So if anyone is sitting on the fence this 85" is awesome and the Mrs who is not into electronics was like wow when she saw the picture. We've watched movies on Apple 4k as well and the pic looks great. So I'm pleased with the TV.
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I had it calibrated and thats the professional settings they created.
Could you give us the detail settings your calibrator set up. In Allencc3's listed settings they were this:

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I read some stuff online about Vudu not supporting Dolby Vision on this TV. Is that true? A lot of the threads I found saying that were from a couple months ago.
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I read some stuff online about Vudu not supporting Dolby Vision on this TV. Is that true? A lot of the threads I found saying that were from a couple months ago.
Not true. It supports it just fine. I use it all the time.

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Looking for reviews, specifically from the owners of the 85" model. It's going to completely fill the space that I have but just want to get impressions on how you feel it looks at home. I've stared at it for hours in the store. 75 would probably look better in the space, but while I don't have to worry about WAF I may just go 85. Curious if for everyday content, the 85 looks washed out or if it has trouble scaling content. I'll be mostly streaming from Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, and movies from Oppo. Thanks.

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Don't know if this has been mentioned before but, I have hated the motion handling on this set. I came from 900E which i noticed had superior motion using motionflow 960. However, I just found out that one particular setting was causing motion issues on the 950G. It is the A/V sync setting. Turn it off for better motion. Once I turned this setting off, I feel like I have a brand new TV. Gaming is better as well since this also reduced input lag/latency. Try it out guys, you won't be disappointed.
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I have just upgraded from an 8 year old 1080p Toshiba tv that has deep black and has served me well – still pretty happy with it now. But I wanted to upgrade to a 4k tv.

First thing I’ve noticed about the 950G is that it is extremely clear – color is top notch. Yes there’s a lot of blooming with HDR or even other content but it does not really bother me. What I’m really disappointed about is the JUDDER – I see it in almost all content – not all the time but in certain scenes. I only use netflix and prime video apps installed in thr tv as I dont use a separate media box. I have played around with the motion settings and non really resolve it unless I increase smoothness to 2 which introduces significant soap opera effect.
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Spent yesterday unpacking, setting up and enjoying my new 65" Sony X950G. A few novice observations

The Good:

1. eARC works flawlessly out of the box with my new Sony HT-Z9F. Connected via HDMI, plugged in the power, and voila! All the TV's HDMI inputs, once set to "Enhanced," never gave an issue.

2. Black Levels are black (this may be because the 65" does not have the X-Wide Layer). In fact I pulled up the torture test of Game of Thrones' "The Long Night". I originally watched this on a Sony A1E and the X950G, while not absolute black, handled it! Details and darkness combined (not even the X950G could fix the "plot armor"). Auto Dimming set to "High" is the best setting (ran half Medium and half High yesterday).

3. "Custom" preset is the best preset to work with like many have said but I'm adjusting certain functionalities. Pulled up a 4k Youtube nature video and it was stunning! Colors really pop on this set.

4. Motion is great! Clear movement without soap opera effect. (I found Smoothness 1 / Clarity 1 / CineMotion Auto the most pleasing to my eyes). I knew it would be since all my previous Sony sets shined in this regard.

5. Good selection of Apps and no issues with functionality (I cleared the ribbons out since I don't use some of the presets)

6. Xbox One X looks/plays phenomenal! Lag is irrelevant unless you are a competitive gamer.

7. Watched Spiderman: Homecoming via VUDU app using Dolby Vision. Set gets BRIGHT! (my scientific, nit-based observation)

The Bad

1. The "Big Brother" initial set up - I did link to my Google Account (minus all the voice/listening in on you stuff) but it does give you the option to "not agree" to send Google, Sony and the Queen of England your data on multiple occasions. Feel free to decline all! Just was ridiculous what they want from you!

2. After spending half the time using built-in apps, I plugged in the Roku Ultra to compare. While nothing to gripe about with the X950G apps, I feel the Roku Ultra performs better with the equivalent apps. Rented Spiderman: Homecoming on Vudu in Dolby Vision from the TV app. Watched the beginning again from the Roku Ultra using HDR. I personally preferred HDR (a more natural picture in my eyes). If you are used to using a dedicated streaming device, I'd be willing to bet you'll keep using it.

3. You can adjust all settings for each individual app. This is great and a pain when you find out what you like only to enter it 15 more times! Here's where the streaming device comes in again (one setting for the HDMI input - done).

4. There was blooming on occasion in the black bars during UHD content. We have ambient light at night/ lots of windows brightness during day. I see why those have said this is not a good "dark room" TV. I would not recommend it for that use. I didn't find it distracting since the picture was great!

Overall, the X950G is a great choice for those in a non-dark room and who are not ready to shell out the bucks for OLED (given it's issues). The price and performance, I felt, is the perfect balance until the "next" technology is here. This set is a champ!
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I have just upgraded from an 8 year old 1080p Toshiba tv that has deep black and has served me well – still pretty happy with it now. But I wanted to upgrade to a 4k tv.

First thing I’ve noticed about the 950G is that it is extremely clear – color is top notch. Yes there’s a lot of blooming with HDR or even other content but it does not really bother me. What I’m really disappointed about is the JUDDER – I see it in almost all content – not all the time but in certain scenes. I only use netflix and prime video apps installed in thr tv as I dont use a separate media box. I have played around with the motion settings and non really resolve it unless I increase smoothness to 2 which introduces significant soap opera effect.
I found motion "appeared" smoother coming from my Roku Ultra vs the same app from the TV while leaving the Motionflow settings the same for both.
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I dont have a roku player but I am planning to get an Apple TV 4k.

Another thing I noticed, everytime I play a Dolby Vision content, I do not see the Dolby Vision logo on the upper right corner of the screen. I know its playing DB because the picture settings do switch to DB (dark, bright, vivid). I just thought its weird the logo does not show
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Don't know if this has been mentioned before but, I have hated the motion handling on this set. I came from 900E which i noticed had superior motion using motionflow 960. However, I just found out that one particular setting was causing motion issues on the 950G. It is the A/V sync setting. Turn it off for better motion. Once I turned this setting off, I feel like I have a brand new TV. Gaming is better as well since this also reduced input lag/latency. Try it out guys, you won't be disappointed.
A/V Sync Setting? I've got a Denon AVR-S740H and I can't find that kind of a setting. Please elaborate. Thanks.
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