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2019 TCL 75S423 led 4k uhd

Noticed the TCL website lists a new 75 inch 4K UHD Tv as 75S423 currently february 9, 2019 available at Costco. It appears different from the 75 inch c807 previously from tcl and Costco. This 75S423 is more affordable than the tcl c807 or 75 inch tcl series 6 (at b*st b*y). The difference in price is noteable. Snow storm here today so I haven't seen this new model in person yet. It might be worth a try. On the TCL website it sort of appears on paper that it has standard to 4K tcl upscaling.

Was surprised to see this come out since not covered at CES to my knowledge.

Any owners of TCL 75S423 out there ?

Suppose the AVS true believers are not to thrilled at a 75 inch 4K for a penny less then a grand.
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I've been doing some internet comparrision shopping durring the snow storm. On paper the TCL 75S423 appears far superior to the W*lM*rt 2017 Curtis RCA rvu7877 or 2017 sceptre u750cv-u. Neither of those other two has hdr. Those other two have significant SOE, soap opera effect. We have the little brother TCL 43S403 and PQ picture quality is fine.

I hope that the TCL pq and motion handling is above average or better. It just might be.
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I saw the TCL 75S423 in person at Costco. Some relections in that bright environment. Watched the three demo loops sent to many sets. Motion looked fine. No blooming. Colors not as vivid as Qled sammy. That also means the colors looked less artificial than on sammy qled.

I am impressed by 75 inch tcl 4 series 2019 model that is 75S423.
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Personally, I would get the 70” Vizio E over a 75” TCL S423 and save another $200. The 4 series isn’t very bright, and doesn’t do Dolby Vision.
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You are correct. The TCL 75S423 was the least bright of the row of various extra large led's uhd tv's at my Costco.

Does Netfix 4k have Dolby Vision encoded ? What about Amazon Prime UHD? How about VuDu UHD ? Not sure what has Dolby Vision. Is it only 4k uhd discs that has dolby vision ?
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You are correct. The TCL 75S423 was the least bright of the row of various extra large led's uhd tv's at my Costco.

Does Netfix 4k have Dolby Vision encoded ? What about Amazon Prime UHD? How about VuDu UHD ? Not sure what has Dolby Vision. Is it only 4k uhd discs that has dolby vision ?
Most original Netflix 4K programming is Dolby Vision encoded, Amazon Prime just recently started offering Dolby Vision encoded programming. Most Vudu UHD movies are Dolby Vision encoded.

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Thanks for the Details about Dolby Vision. I was not aware of that. It cools my interest in TCL 4 series. Maybe Sony model 780 could fit in at the max of my budget.
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I see on a seperate thread that sony 75x780 does not have Dolby Vision either. Phooey.
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Correct. I have it now. And have the Vizio P-Series on the way to review side-by-side. The Sony is EXCEPTIONAL - Full Stop! But... it doesn't get dark enough on dark scenes, and isn't quite bright enoug for the best HDR performance. Also, viewing angles are sheit!


However - EXCELLENT performance. For movies, sports, motion, overall HDR, upscaling of 1080 content.



I got one display unit for $1345. Tough to beat. But if the P-Series smokes it, I will return the Sony.


(Or bone up extra $$ for a refurb x900F)


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I see on a seperate thread that sony 75x780 does not have Dolby Vision either. Phooey.
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Hi all. I just noticed that there's a deal at Costco for the TCL 75S423 for a whopping $999.
I'm currently strongly considering to purchase the 82" Samsung Q6, which is currently offered for $2,635 at amazon.
But the difference in price is big on the TCL.

Looking for advice on what to do. I need a big TV for my living room.
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Hi all. I just noticed that there's a deal at Costco for the TCL 75S423 for a whopping $999.
I'm currently strongly considering to purchase the 82" Samsung Q6, which is currently offered for $2,635 at amazon.
But the difference in price is big on the TCL.

Looking for advice on what to do. I need a big TV for my living room.

Hmmmm, I mean, the Q6 doesn't have local dimming so that's a huge price to pay for color and brightness. If you find a deal like I got on the Sony75X780F, grab it! WORLDS better than the TCL and I got mine for $1345 with 7 year warranty. Exceptional picture and motion. Great HDR as well, even if it can't do Dolby Vision. Hardly missing.
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Hi all. I just noticed that there's a deal at Costco for the TCL 75S423 for a whopping $999.
I'm currently strongly considering to purchase the 82" Samsung Q6, which is currently offered for $2,635 at amazon.
But the difference in price is big on the TCL.

Looking for advice on what to do. I need a big TV for my living room.
If you can afford the Q6, get the Q6. That’s a great price for that set, and there’s no substitute for size. Go big!

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If you can afford the Q6, get the Q6. That’s a great price for that set, and there’s no substitute for size. Go big!
It's not a matter of being able to afford something, I'm asking if there's VALUE. Wondering if the difference in price of $1,600+ is justifiable for the Q6 vs this.
Or like the other user suggested about the Sony tv. $300 more for the Sony, if it makes sense because you get more value for your money.

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It's not a matter of being able to afford something, I'm asking if there's VALUE. Wondering if the difference in price of $1,600+ is justifiable for the Q6 vs this.
Or like the other user suggested about the Sony tv. $300 more for the Sony, if it makes sense because you get more value for your money.

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In my opinion, the difference in price of $1,600 for the Q6 over this entry level TCL is **more** than justifiable.

In fact, I think the difference in price between the Sony and the Q6 is easily justifiable as well, due to the size difference.

1) The Q6 will stomp all over the TCL S423 in terms of picture quality, especially in HDR. It's a much brighter set with a wider color gamut and very good color volume.

2) There is no substitute for size. An 82" set has 19.5% more screen area than a 75" set. If you are looking for an immersive viewing experience, bigger is better. You will almost never see someone on AVS regret getting the bigger TV--you often see someone wish they had gotten something bigger. If you are considering an 82" set and you have the room and budget, I feel that you will always have that "what if?" if you settle for a 75" set. Just my humble opinion.

3) $2,500 is a **tremendous** value for an 82" set with the Q6's capabilities. It's not so long ago that a set like that would cost upwards of $5,000-$7,000, or even more depending how far you go back.

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In my opinion, the difference in price of $1,600 for the Q6 over this entry level TCL is **more** than justifiable.

In fact, I think the difference in price between the Sony and the Q6 is easily justifiable as well, due to the size difference.

1) The Q6 will stomp all over the TCL S423 in terms of picture quality, especially in HDR. It's a much brighter set with a wider color gamut and very good color volume.

2) There is no substitute for size. An 82" set has 19.5% more screen area than a 75" set. If you are looking for an immersive viewing experience, bigger is better. You will almost never see someone on AVS regret getting the bigger TV--you often see someone wish they had gotten something bigger. If you are considering an 82" set and you have the room and budget, I feel that you will always have that "what if?" if you settle for a 75" set. Just my humble opinion.

3) $2,500 is a **tremendous** value for an 82" set with the Q6's capabilities. It's not so long ago that a set like that would cost upwards of $5,000-$7,000, or even more depending how far you go back.
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I would add that the 82 is in NO WAY worth the difference in price from a 75" set. The 65 to 75 is a MASSIVE difference. The 75 to 82, simply not so much. And that is where you are paying the biggest premium right now. IF you can get a Sony, get it. It mops the floor with that Q6. And you save a TON of money. I'm sorry to say that TCL for $1000 is garbage compared to either the Sony or Samsung.


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I would add that the 82 is in NO WAY worth the difference in price from a 75" set. The 65 to 75 is a MASSIVE difference. The 75 to 82, simply not so much. And that is where you are paying the biggest premium right now. IF you can get a Sony, get it. It mops the floor with that Q6. And you save a TON of money. I'm sorry to say that TCL for $1000 is garbage compared to either the Sony or Samsung.
I disagree. An 82” TV has 19.5% more screen area than a 75” TV. There is no substitute for size, and there is a premium to be paid. If budget and space allow, and one is comparing sets of similar quality, there is no compelling reason to choose the smaller set. That is just inviting potential regret—the number one regret in TV purchases is not buying the bigger set. Again, $2,500 is a *great* price for an 82” Q6.

I also disagree that a Sony 780F mops the floor with a Q6. I have owned a 65” Sony 900E, which is a better set than the 780F. In my opinion, it did not mop the floor with the Q6. Rather, they were very similar in terms of picture quality.
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Gotcha.


My opinion is meaningless, but I maintain 75-82 ain't worth much.


BUT I am with you on the Q6 vs Sony thing. It was more about the value proposition than the ACTUAL picture. Sorry I wasn't more clear.


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I disagree. An 82” TV has 19.5% more screen area than a 75” TV. There is no substitute for size, and there is a premium to be paid. If budget and space allow, and one is comparing sets of similar quality, there is no compelling reason to choose the smaller set. That is just inviting potential regret—the number one regret in TV purchases is not buying the bigger set. Again, $2,500 is a *great* price for an 82” Q6.

I also disagree that a Sony 780F mops the floor with a Q6. I have owned a 65” Sony 900E, which is a better set than the 780F. In my opinion, it did not mop the floor with the Q6. Rather, they were very similar in terms of picture quality.
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Gotcha.


My opinion is meaningless, but I maintain 75-82 ain't worth much.


BUT I am with you on the Q6 vs Sony thing. It was more about the value proposition than the ACTUAL picture. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
I wouldn’t say your opinion is meaningless, I just don’t agree with it.
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Trust me, I WISH I could go back to a 65"! The LG C8 OLED is under $2000 this week for the 65"... But I have that 75" Sony now. No turning back. And again, I suck up the limitations as it cost me $1345 with 7 year warranty.



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Trust me, I WISH I could go back to a 65"! The LG C8 OLED is under $2000 this week for the 65"... But I have that 75" Sony now. No turning back. And again, I suck up the limitations as it cost me $1345 with 7 year warranty.
Yep, once you go bigger, there is no going back for sure! Last year, I sold my 65” 900E to my cousin—it was a great TV but I always had the tinge of regret of not going bigger. I saw a closeout deal on a 2017 75” Vizio M series at Costco that I could not pass up.

My personal experience is that the Vizio has about 90-95% of the picture quality of the 900E, but the increase in size *more* than makes up for it. It’s much more immersive, and looks especially good with Dolby Vision material.

My next set will probably be an 82”, and that’s where it stops. I don’t have the wall space for something bigger, lol
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For me, I believe it will have to be the Sony x900F or 77" OLED. The Vizio was just absolute garbage performance and picture sitting next to the FAR 'inferior' Sony x780. So the Sony stays for now.



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Yep, once you go bigger, there is no going back for sure! Last year, I sold my 65” 900E to my cousin—it was a great TV but I always had the tinge of regret of not going bigger. I saw a closeout deal on a 2017 75” Vizio M series at Costco that I could not pass up.

My personal experience is that the Vizio has about 90-95% of the picture quality of the 900E, but the increase in size *more* than makes up for it. It’s much more immersive, and looks especially good with Dolby Vision material.

My next set will probably be an 82”, and that’s where it stops. I don’t have the wall space for something bigger, lol
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Here is a simple question. Does anyone actually like the affordable TCL 75S423 ? Most broadcast and cable does not include hdr and dv. Some streaming does.
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Here is a simple question. Does anyone actually like the affordable TCL 75S423 ? Most broadcast and cable does not include hdr and dv. Some streaming does.
Here’s the deal—it just doesn’t get bright enough. I have the 43” version of this TV in our guest bedroom—it’s perfectly fine for that application. However, I feel that the lack of brightness is unacceptable for a primary set.

If you are looking for a budget 75” set, the Vizio E75-F is $1079 @ Costco. It has Dolby Vision, and while it’s not a light cannon, it is significantly brighter than the TCL S423.

If you live near a Fry’s, you might still be able to advantage of their sale on the 75” Samsung NU8000 for $1299. That is the best deal by far.
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Or if anyone sees a display unit available of the Sony 75X780F at COSTCO for $1345, that was the deal!!! No way I would give this up for a Samsung under the Q8 or Q9 level.



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Here’s the deal—it just doesn’t get bright enough. I have the 43” version of this TV in our guest bedroom—it’s perfectly fine for that application. However, I feel that the lack of brightness is unacceptable for a primary set.

If you are looking for a budget 75” set, the Vizio E75-F is $1079 @ Costco. It has Dolby Vision, and while it’s not a light cannon, it is significantly brighter than the TCL S423.

If you live near a Fry’s, you might still be able to advantage of their sale on the 75” Samsung NU8000 for $1299. That is the best deal by far.
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Noticed that B*st B*y now stocks the TCL 75S423 at a grand. Wonder how many they will sell.
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Why did they make a 4 series 75" and not a 5 series 75"? 4 series has been around since 2017. At least the 5 series came out in 2018 and has a wide color gamut.
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I'm so glad Google led me to this thread. I started out wanting to upgrade my Vizio M70-C3. I just cut the cord and wanted something newer to stream with. The 70, will go in the bedroom (for how long we will see lol) I wanted to get the 80" Vizio, but 3 people at work all have TCL's and were impressed with them. I had decided on the model in this thread until I saw that they were not very bright. I went to Costco to get a Vizio E75 but they didn't have them in store, the P series was $700 more. They only had the display left so I asked if I could get a better deal, but since they have more coming in she said she couldn't discount it. BUT, she did whisper telling me to wait because they are going on sale this coming Monday for $1,4XX down from $1,779

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Two minor notes as of March 26, 2019.

Costco customers are giving favorable reviews to 75S423.

B*st B*y has lowered the price on TCL 6 series while increasing the price on TCL 4 series 75S423. Go figure.
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Noticed that W*l-M*rt.com has something similar for a grand listed as TCL model 75S425. Wonder if that last digit is a typo.
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