Samsung Launches 2019 QLED Lineup - Page 13 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 530Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #361 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 09:46 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
venus933's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,405
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2365 Post(s)
Liked: 1946
Quote:
Originally Posted by js950 View Post
Making more panels doesn't cost LG more money. Quite the opposite. That panels cost more to other makers has to do with the popularity of LG OLED TVs which makes them less available to others. There is no down side here for LG.
Is this a supposition based upon what feels right to you?

Report: Can LG start making profitable OLED TVs?

LG 65B8 - Primary
LG 55EG9100 - Bedroom
Sonos Playbase
MS Xbox One S (using strictly as a disk player)
venus933 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #362 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 09:53 AM
Senior Member
 
tvhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southern New Hampshire
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matsonia View Post
Agreed. Iv been in plenty of threads in the OLED forum and get all the moaners coming to defence the second you mention anything negative about OLED. Can we please keep this on topic for the 2019 QLED sets. Burn in discussions and how good OLED's are in a bright room are for a different topic.

After reading Marks hands on review of the Q900 which is basically the Q90 with 8K the wide viewing angels and black filter sound extremely impressive to the point of giving inky blacks better than the 2018 models and even better blooming control if there is basically any blooming at all with the 2019 flagships. When you add deeper blacks, better contrast, less blooming, wide viewing angels with no colour shift, the best anti reflection filter on the market is honestly sounds to me like they will have a winner on there hands. Having no contrast shift with viewing angels close to OLED on a VA panel sounds amazing to me and is a pretty massive step forward for LCD considering viewing angels have been an issue for a very long time with VA panels.
That model does sound pretty amazing but remember he evaluated a $10k tv. I really want to hear more about tvs that normal humans can buy. I don't know if his observations from the CES demo and from his hands on with the giant 8K tv translate to real world viewing of the q80r yet. I'm hopeful but really want to hear from someone that watching sports off-angle on the q80r looks really good with material upscaled well, blooming controlled, contrast solid, and motion handled well.
CaptinCrunch and Terminader like this.
tvhunter is offline  
post #363 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 09:55 AM
Advanced Member
 
Matsonia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 721
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by tvhunter View Post
That model does sound pretty amazing but remember he evaluated a $10k tv. I really want to hear more about tvs that normal humans can buy. I don't know if his observations from the CES demo and from his hands on with the giant 8K tv translate to real world viewing of the q80r yet. I'm hopeful but really want to hear from someone that watching sports off-angle on the q80r looks really good with material upscaled well, blooming controlled, contrast solid, and motion handled well.

I think the most exciting part is the black filter and wide viewing angels which also translate to the Q80. That alone is probably a big incentive to buy this model for many people.
venus933 likes this.
Matsonia is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #364 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 10:48 AM
Advanced Member
 
js950's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 810
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 458 Post(s)
Liked: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by venus933 View Post
Is this a supposition based upon what feels right to you?

Report: Can LG start making profitable OLED TVs?
This has more to do with them lowering retail prices. The panel prices have raised a small amount and they make the panels and can control the pricing. Making more panels only cost more when you are losing money on them. They are not losing money on the panels as the pricing is set, they are losing money on the sets themselves to compete with LCD TVs. It's a marketing, not a panel cost consideration that's at fault here. That's why there is a discrepancy between Sony and LG pricing of OLEDs. They are not selling Sony panels at a loss and Sony's prices are more reflective of normal margins.

Last edited by js950; 02-20-2019 at 10:56 AM.
js950 is offline  
post #365 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 10:55 AM
Advanced Member
 
js950's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 810
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 458 Post(s)
Liked: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisPNW View Post
Probably for the same reason every OLED thread comes with some Samsung fanboi saying "OLED, the TV you can watch when the power is on and off."


People are so misinformed... and while yeah, zero chance > minor chance.... 2nd place < 1st place and 2nd is where QLED is and will continue to be with the gray blacks and subpar viewing angles. That's just the facts... and I'm aware he owns both formats.



I did like the part though where he said he compared his QLED to OLED and he said the QLED was very similar in PQ but there was no difference in PQ. In the end I could care less what format someone buys but I don't recommend settling for 2nd place just over a minor chance of BI unless you simply don't want the best PQ available.


Cheers.
Than you have good company. 2 wrongs and all that.
js950 is offline  
post #366 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 11:03 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
venus933's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,405
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2365 Post(s)
Liked: 1946
Quote:
Originally Posted by js950 View Post
This has more to do with them lowering retail prices. The panel prices have raised a much smaller amount and they make the panels and can control the pricing. Making more panels only cost more when you are losing money on them. They are not losing money on the panels as the pricing is set, they are losing money on the sets. That's why there is a discrepancy between Sony and LG pricing of OLEDs.
LGD and LGE are two separate companies. LGD makes the panels. LGE makes the televisions and DO NOT set the price of the panels they received from LGD. LGD is no longer losing money on their panels, but LGE is paying more for the panels and hence effecting the bottom line (but they too are now in the black).
HoustonHoyaFan likes this.

LG 65B8 - Primary
LG 55EG9100 - Bedroom
Sonos Playbase
MS Xbox One S (using strictly as a disk player)
venus933 is offline  
post #367 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 11:05 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by tvhunter View Post
That model does sound pretty amazing but remember he evaluated a $10k tv. I really want to hear more about tvs that normal humans can buy. I don't know if his observations from the CES demo and from his hands on with the giant 8K tv translate to real world viewing of the q80r yet. I'm hopeful but really want to hear from someone that watching sports off-angle on the q80r looks really good with material upscaled well, blooming controlled, contrast solid, and motion handled well.
The Q900 sounds exciting, just the 82" is a bit too expensive for me. I can buy multiple OLEDs at that price. So, 82" Q90 is looking a better option.
Terminader likes this.
New_to_4K is offline  
post #368 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 11:15 AM
Senior Member
 
Timokreon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 368
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 143
Looks like I'll be going for the 65" or the 75" Q90. I'll be waiting until the July to October time frame. Hopefully prices follow the previous years.


I'm actually leaning towards the 65". Should be a great year.
CaptinCrunch likes this.

Last edited by Timokreon; 02-20-2019 at 11:22 AM.
Timokreon is offline  
post #369 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 11:32 AM
Advanced Member
 
js950's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 810
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 458 Post(s)
Liked: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisPNW View Post
You lost me... and there's nothing in my post that I'm wrong about... but feel free to tell me how QLED is superior to OLED.


I'll listen... just gimme like 10 mins to make some popcorn first.
Wow! Context. The commonality and 2 wrongs are LCD guys posting in an OLED thread and you posting about OLED in this one. The complete saying is, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Using the fact that a few overzealous LCD guys call out brightness etc in OLED threads doesn't justify taking this thread off topic by overzealous OLED guys nor justifies the other way around. Not wanting to get into this much discussion about it is why that post was short. I have no interest in an OLED vs QLED dissertation in this thread and I won't comment further. To me they are different and not about better or worse since that will depend on the individual.
TravisPNW likes this.

Last edited by js950; 02-20-2019 at 11:40 AM.
js950 is offline  
post #370 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 11:48 AM
Advanced Member
 
TravisPNW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 947
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 581 Post(s)
Liked: 779
Quote:
Originally Posted by js950 View Post
Wow! Context. The commonality and 2 wrongs are LCD guys posting in an OLED thread and you posting about OLED in this one. The complete saying is, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Using the fact that a few overzealous LCD guys call out brightness etc in OLED threads doesn't justify taking this thread off topic by overzealous OLED guys nor justifies the other way around. Not wanting to get into this much discussion about it is why that post was short. I have no interest in an OLED vs QLED dissertation in this thread and I won't comment further. To me they are different and not about better or worse since that will depend on the individual.

... and I'll agree with you on that.


I'm not interested in debates either... I only defend my purchase because people like to call out OLED for BI when it doesn't happen to everyone. It simply doesn't although people like to claim it's not if it will happen... but when. That's just completely false. It's much like the BI debate with plasma back in the day. LCD flaws on the other hand are going to be there on every set. I guess you can call out OLED as being flawed for not getting as bright (???) but for someone who prefers a dark HT where OLED is the undisputed king (does anyone really watch movies with all the lights on?) that point is moot.


Anyway... I've made my point and I'll move on. They are completely different and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Peace!

LG B7A OLED 65” / LG SJ9 Atmos Sound Bar / LG UP970 BR Player / Apple TV 4K
i7 7700k 11GB 1080 Ti 32GB Ram 2x 1TB 960 Evo / XBox One X / Nintendo Switch
Movie collection: https://www.blu-ray.com/community/co...3&categoryid=7
TravisPNW is offline  
post #371 of 791 Old 02-20-2019, 07:40 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
venus933's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,405
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2365 Post(s)
Liked: 1946
Some info (reaffirmation) on the sub Q90 models

Q80: 96 zone and as Matsonia mentioned earlier it will have the black filter and wide viewing angels of the Q90
Q70: 48 dimming zones


LG 65B8 - Primary
LG 55EG9100 - Bedroom
Sonos Playbase
MS Xbox One S (using strictly as a disk player)
venus933 is offline  
post #372 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 03:25 AM
Advanced Member
 
mithras1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 847
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 518 Post(s)
Liked: 291
From the above video's comments/description:


The lowdown:
  • Samsung Q90R: flagship, 480-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, One Connect box.
  • Samsung Q85R: 96-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, One Connect box, UK & EU exclusive.
  • Samsung Q80R: 96-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, no One Connect box.
  • Samsung Q70R: 48-zone FALD, no Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, no Ultra Black Elite filter.
  • Samsung Q60R: edge-lit LED LCD. 43-inch QLED available.
"We've been informed by Samsung that both the Q85R and Q80R will have the same number of local dimming zones (96), even though marketing literature suggests otherwise." (meaning the 6x rating for the euro Q80R; we shall see . Of course it didn't seem to make sense to me in the first place to create an even more stepdown version of the Q80R for Europe rather than just keeping it completely the same. From a manufacturing point of view, etc.)
Terminader likes this.

Last edited by mithras1; 02-21-2019 at 03:29 AM.
mithras1 is offline  
post #373 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 04:29 AM
Senior Member
 
tvhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southern New Hampshire
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by mithras1 View Post
From the above video's comments/description:


The lowdown:
  • Samsung Q90R: flagship, 480-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, One Connect box.
  • Samsung Q85R: 96-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, One Connect box, UK & EU exclusive.
  • Samsung Q80R: 96-zone FALD, Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, Ultra Black Elite filter, no One Connect box.
  • Samsung Q70R: 48-zone FALD, no Ultra Wide Viewing Angle, no Ultra Black Elite filter.
  • Samsung Q60R: edge-lit LED LCD. 43-inch QLED available.
"We've been informed by Samsung that both the Q85R and Q80R will have the same number of local dimming zones (96), even though marketing literature suggests otherwise." (meaning the 6x rating for the euro Q80R; we shall see [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]. Of course it didn't seem to make sense to me in the first place to create an even more stepdown version of the Q80R for Europe rather than just keeping it completely the same. From a manufacturing point of view, etc.)
on paper that seems like quite a step down from 480 to 96 dimming zones but I’ve never owned an LCD let alone a Samsung so maybe the result won’t be that drastic for real world viewing. The q80 is already stretching the budget so if it’s not great I’ll probably go the OLED route. It’d be nice to have a bright tv with great reflection control for daytime viewing though so will wait to hear from owners when these hit the street.
Terminader likes this.
tvhunter is offline  
post #374 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 05:37 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
venus933's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,405
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2365 Post(s)
Liked: 1946
IMO the biggest potential improvement from the Q8 to the Q80 is not going from 40 to 96 zones and the newer black filter but having faster reaction times from the dimming scheme. An example would be transitioning from a dark to a bright scene and not noticing a delay in brightness due to the dimming scheme catching up.
SkyYYZ likes this.

LG 65B8 - Primary
LG 55EG9100 - Bedroom
Sonos Playbase
MS Xbox One S (using strictly as a disk player)
venus933 is offline  
post #375 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 06:41 AM
Advanced Member
 
SkyYYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 669
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 266 Post(s)
Liked: 204
With final FALD zone counts seemingly put to rest, I apologize to anyone whose hope I mustered up for Q80/70Rs in recent (speculative) posts.

That said, HD Guru has published a review of the 2019 Q90R and touched on the possibility of eARC support being added sometime after launch:

Quote:
Many of the “features” of the new HDMI 2.1 interface are expected eventually to be supported by the television, but nothing definitive can be announced about this now, as the HDMI LA hasn’t yet signed off on the necessary testing and certification protocols for these capabilities on the set. However, it’s our understanding that this television will eventually be updated to support such key features as eARC, ALLM, Freesync 2 and Variable Refresh Rate, but it’s strictly “buyer beware” until the proper certifications are issued and announced.
Full review: https://hdguru.com/review-samsung-q9...es-ultra-wide/
js950, venus933 and Keithian like this.
SkyYYZ is offline  
post #376 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 06:47 AM
Advanced Member
 
Matsonia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 721
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked: 365
I really hope so. To have HDMI 2.1 and not have eARC would be a bummer. Also they mention freesync2. I believe the 2018 models only had freesync 1 correct as it would only work on game that were between 60 and 45 fps where as freesync 2 works all the way down?
Matsonia is offline  
post #377 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 08:43 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 464
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 320 Post(s)
Liked: 121
Contemplating just dropping to 65" and snagging the Q90.

That's a huge drop in zones from 480 to 96 from Q80 to Q90 for what? $600 dollars?
gocubs418 is offline  
post #378 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 08:47 AM - Thread Starter
Mark Henninger
 
imagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 16,264
Mentioned: 459 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9306 Post(s)
Liked: 16472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matsonia View Post
I really hope so. To have HDMI 2.1 and not have eARC would be a bummer. Also they mention freesync2. I believe the 2018 models only had freesync 1 correct as it would only work on game that were between 60 and 45 fps where as freesync 2 works all the way down?
Samsung says eARC is coming... that's the answer I got too. Given that the company sells matching Atmos soundbars, I expect it to happen.

Mark Henninger
Editor, AVS Forum
imagic is offline  
post #379 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 09:32 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Ted99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,026
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1004 Post(s)
Liked: 459
Quote:
Originally Posted by js950 View Post
The dude you responded to just said he owns both formats in the very post you quoted. He thinks the picture of the q9 is as good. Regardless of how you feel about the burn in scare. Zero chance > minor chance. You're watching it wrong is a poor response to the phenomenon.

Why does every new LCD thread get OLED zealots taking discussions off topic?
Same thing happens in any Electric car blog, with Tesla zealots

JVC RS600 Chad-callibrated, 120" 1.3g in Batcave HT, Denon X8500 Polk LSiM703 fronts,
RTi-12 rears, LSiM 706 center, Monitor 40 Heights, Monitor 60 FW, FXiA4 Bi-pole sides,
LSiC CH, Infinity 6" VOG. 4X 12" subs w/mini DSP on sub 1 and nearfield 18" from sub 2.
Ted99 is offline  
post #380 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 09:42 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 89
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Liked: 15
how can they only have 96 zones on the q80 and sell at that price? samsung really doesnt give you much for the money
Badmotorf1nger is offline  
post #381 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 10:54 AM
Member
 
pppp1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Liked: 19
I'm a little confused... can someone explain the differences between 2018 Q900, 2019 Q900 and Q950?
pppp1 is offline  
post #382 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 11:00 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 135
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 104 Post(s)
Liked: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by pppp1 View Post
I'm a little confused... can someone explain the differences between 2018 Q900, 2019 Q900 and Q950?
I believe the 2019 Q900 and Q950 are the same thing. The Q950 is the model identifier for Europe. I believe this is due to the fact the Q900 was only released in one size in the US versus multiple sizes in Europe.

I believe the difference between the 2018 and 2019 models are the increased viewing angle and anti reflective coating. Also the 2019 model comes with an HDMI 2.1 OCB while owners of the 2018 models will receive a free upgrade sometime in the future.
pppp1 likes this.
benboy12 is offline  
post #383 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 11:04 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 464
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 320 Post(s)
Liked: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badmotorf1nger View Post
how can they only have 96 zones on the q80 and sell at that price? samsung really doesnt give you much for the money
It feels to me like they are saying that the zones dont matter, the black filter/x wide viewing is what you want and are paying the premium on.

In order to make a tier down, they gutted the dimming zones while still offering you the black filter/x wide.

Genius marketing, IMO.
gocubs418 is offline  
post #384 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 11:44 AM
Advanced Member
 
Matsonia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 721
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by benboy12 View Post
I believe the 2019 Q900 and Q950 are the same thing. The Q950 is the model identifier for Europe. I believe this is due to the fact the Q900 was only released in one size in the US versus multiple sizes in Europe.

I believe the difference between the 2018 and 2019 models are the increased viewing angle and anti reflective coating. Also the 2019 model comes with an HDMI 2.1 OCB while owners of the 2018 models will receive a free upgrade sometime in the future.


This is correct the Q900 2019 and Q950 2019 are the same models just the USA and European versions. As mentioned I believe the 2019 Q900 has the ultra wide viewing angels, Ultra black filter and full HDMI 2.1 ports on the connect box. It will most likely also have some other improvements. There was mentions of the Q90 having improved dimming that isn't just software but hardware addons so you may also get improved blacks, better dimming control and less bloom on the 2019 version.
Matsonia is offline  
post #385 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 11:57 AM
Member
 
taphil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 173
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 14
What sizes are all the new 4K models going to come in? I don’t care about 8K and size is more important to me.

I have Samsung 78” JS8600 in the family room and want to upgrade, but won’t downgrade in size. I’d pay for OLED if LG made something bigger than 77”. And Samsung maxed the top of the line Q9F to 75” and the Q8F didn’t seem worthy of considering.
taphil is online now  
post #386 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 12:03 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,017
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by taphil View Post
What sizes are all the new 4K models going to come in? I don’t care about 8K and size is more important to me.

I have Samsung 78” JS8600 in the family room and want to upgrade, but won’t downgrade in size. I’d pay for OLED if LG made something bigger than 77”. And Samsung maxed the top of the line Q9F to 75” and the Q8F didn’t seem worthy of considering.
2019's Samsung's Q90 is also available in 82". Sony X95G is available in 85" max. LG and Sony 4k OLEDs max size is 77".
Terminader likes this.
New_to_4K is offline  
post #387 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 12:43 PM
Advanced Member
 
js950's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 810
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 458 Post(s)
Liked: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by benboy12 View Post
I believe the 2019 Q900 and Q950 are the same thing. The Q950 is the model identifier for Europe. I believe this is due to the fact the Q900 was only released in one size in the US versus multiple sizes in Europe.

I believe the difference between the 2018 and 2019 models are the increased viewing angle and anti reflective coating. Also the 2019 model comes with an HDMI 2.1 OCB while owners of the 2018 models will receive a free upgrade sometime in the future.
plus better processing and scaling in the 90
js950 is offline  
post #388 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 12:45 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,177
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 977 Post(s)
Liked: 710
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyYYZ View Post
With final FALD zone counts seemingly put to rest, I apologize to anyone whose hope I mustered up for Q80/70Rs in recent (speculative) posts.



That said, HD Guru has published a review of the 2019 Q90R and touched on the possibility of eARC support being added sometime after launch:







Full review: https://hdguru.com/review-samsung-q9...es-ultra-wide/
Wow, what a glowing review. I may very well get the 82" and move my 75" Q9FN to the bedroom if the review is consistent with most of the other reviews under non cherry picked conditions. This TV addresses just about every issue with the Q9fn. I can only hope it handles motion better as well with some of my shows on youtubetv. The blacks appear more than close enough to OLED with better peak brightness and the accuracy apparently improved as well for those who care about that. Viewing angle is not as important to me, but I guess for my guests it will help even though they technically wouldn't notice one way or another.
Keithian is offline  
post #389 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 01:43 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
BRAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 2,054
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 706 Post(s)
Liked: 619
Quote:
Originally Posted by venus933 View Post
IMO the biggest potential improvement from the Q8 to the Q80 is not going from 40 to 96 zones and the newer black filter but having faster reaction times from the dimming scheme. An example would be transitioning from a dark to a bright scene and not noticing a delay in brightness due to the dimming scheme catching up.


BINGO! Only you, myself and 1 review that I’ve noticed mentioned this issue. No offence, but a person would have to be blind not to see it.

Backlight response time when transitioning from one scene to another scene on 2018 Samsung FALD sets was downright awful. As far as I’m concerned this issue was right up there with black crush and DSE, of all the issues that plagued my 75” Q9FN.

Samsung 82” Q90R * LG 55” C8 * Denon X4500H * 5.2.4 Atmos * Xbox One X * PS4 Pro
BRAC is offline  
post #390 of 791 Old 02-21-2019, 01:46 PM
Senior Member
 
tvhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southern New Hampshire
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked: 89
Might have to go be an OLED fanboy after seeing these prices. Just too much even for the q80 which is the third tier model.
tvhunter is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off