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Samsung Launches 2019 QLED Lineup

Samsung has officially unveiled its comprehensive 2019 4K and 8K TV lineup, including the new QLED Q60, Q70, Q80 and Q90 4K models. Click this link to read more: Samsung Launches New 4K & 8K QLED TVs

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B&H has the prices up for preorder. 82" Q90 is 6.5K. I remember when the biggest flagships in their lineups would retail for 10-15K... Very glad with the pricing.

But, a real shame that they have zero new HDMI features. No EARC, no QMS, no higher framerates. Just carryover VRR from last year.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be all over the 82", esp. at that price...
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is this "Samsung Upgrade" a new feature as well? Looks like Samsung will give you 33% back after 2 years. From the terms, it looks like you don't have to return your TV either.

Edit: Disregard, it looks like its not a brand new feature, interesting if you are one that upgrades frequently.

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how does the upgrade work?


my 11 year old Samsung is on the blink

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looks like pricing for the 2018 models were adjusted as well. this should trickle down to retailers soon.
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No mention of HDR formats. Still only HDR10+?
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how does the upgrade work?


my 11 year old Samsung is on the blink


The upgrade system is crap. There are a few threads on it. I would completely ignore it.
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Pricing is really agressive, especially with the 82" size in all models. According to the specs, the Q80 will have half the zones (240) and Q70 will be a quarter of the Q90 (120 zones). We'll see if that ends up being true.
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eARC seems like a big one to me.

I'll probably still get the 65" The Frame 3.0 for my open concept living room system, but eARC would have been nice.

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eARC seems like a big one to me.

I'll probably still get the 65" The Frame 3.0 for my open concept living room system, but eARC would have been nice.
I agree. Worst thing is even their 8K models which are supposed to get upgraded One Connect boxes with HDMI 2.1 haven't been confirmed as getting EARC.

I really hope Im wrong since i would love to upgrade this year but I feel we won't get solid, full featured HDMI 2.1 until next year (expect LG OLED).
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Any indication on the Serif release? I don't see it listed at B&H. It's disappointing that it's only coming in the 55in size, I was under the impression that 43 and 49in versions would also be offered.
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Did I miss where it said when they would be released?
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Looks like there won't be any Info released in Europe for 2 more days, In case anyone was wondering why the European peeps didn't release any info.
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The stand for the Q90 is really incredible. Seriously, look at the damn footprint. https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...qn65q90rafxza/
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Did I miss where it said when they would be released?
The preorders are up, but no ship date yet.
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Pricing is really agressive, especially with the 82" size in all models. According to the specs, the Q80 will have half the zones (240) and Q70 will be a quarter of the Q90 (120 zones). We'll see if that ends up being true.
Hey where did you see these specs? Makes me hopeful that the Vizio PQX 75" will be awesome with 480 zones.

Edit: If that is right, based on their naming "Direct Full Array x#", you might be right

Q90 16 x 30
Q80 8 x 30
Q70 4 x 30

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Hey where did you see these specs? Makes me hopeful that the Vizio PQX 75" will be awesome with 480 zones.

B&H has all the models up with prices. The 65 and 82Q80 isn't listed yet tho.
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B&H has all the models up with prices. The 65 and 82Q80 isn't listed yet tho.
Thanks. I still cannot find exactly on B&H page where it says Q90 has 480 dimming zones, but only that is has Direct Full Array 16x

Q90 16 x 30
Q80 8 x 30
Q70 4 x 30

I believe you are correct though, even Samsung's website notes this about it "³Direct Full Array Numerical Index based on backlighting, antireflection and contrast enhancement technologies."
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Of all the above, the one that I am interested in is the 82" Q900

Once it gets in the hands of the reviewers and they say it is great and Samsung guarantees an upgraded OCB that has 2.1 HDMI ports, then I will probably dip into the 8K world.

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B&H has the prices up for preorder. 82" Q90 is 6.5K. I remember when the biggest flagships in their lineups would retail for 10-15K... Very glad with the pricing.

But, a real shame that they have zero new HDMI features. No EARC, no QMS, no higher framerates. Just carryover VRR from last year.

If it wasn't for that, I'd be all over the 82", esp. at that price...
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Wow, that pricing for a 4K 82" UHDTV from Samsung is amazing !
I had to check out the B&H website as i could not believe the price you posted.

I would say that this year Samsung has thrown down the gauntlet insofar as pricing these extra large LCD 4K panels and if Sony et al doesn't match such msrp Samsung will have this entire segment of the market all for itself.
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Wow, that pricing for a 4K 82" UHDTV from Samsung is amazing !
I had to check out the B&H website as i could not believe the price you posted.

I would say that this year Samsung has thrown down the gauntlet insofar as pricing these extra large LCD 4K panels and if Sony et al doesn't match such msrp Samsung will have this entire segment of the market all for itself.
Competition is so sweet....
I agree. And even though Sony has not announced the pricing for their 85" 4k set, the 75" is cheap enough that it makes me think that they will be priced competitively with the Samsung.

But again what bugs me personally is the absence or at the very least the confusion about HDMI 2.1 features. If they don't have any, then next year's sets will be the ones to get, since they will definitely have 2.1 and will be priced similarly or even cheaper...

But for people who dont care about HDMI 2.1 this year's sets' pricing is a godsend. Finally we have semi-affordable 80"+ flagships. If nothing else, 8K has been good for driving prices down
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Wow, that pricing for a 4K 82" UHDTV from Samsung is amazing !
I had to check out the B&H website as i could not believe the price you posted.

I would say that this year Samsung has thrown down the gauntlet insofar as pricing these extra large LCD 4K panels and if Sony et al doesn't match such msrp Samsung will have this entire segment of the market all for itself.
Competition is so sweet....
LOL! I'm waiting for the prices to go down during sale. Interested in the 75" or 82" Q90. Any savings will be applied to OLED as my 2nd tv.
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No 55" FALD set this year?!
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Samsung still makes tv's? Haven't had one in a long time. The last good samsung tv was the F8500. But seriously these rebranded fald lcd's using a couple hundred dimmable zones under a fancy name does what? They are mediocre tv's and the technology behind them has hit a brick wall. There is no more innovation to be had here. Samsung, what happened to your quantum dot oled? You were researching one, that technology is your only ticket to compete with lg on a technical level and being relevant again to videophiles.
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Samsung still makes tv's? Haven't had one in a long time. The last good samsung tv was the F8500. But seriously these rebranded fald lcd's using a couple hundred dimmable zones under a fancy name does what? They are mediocre tv's and the technology behind them has hit a brick wall. There is no more innovation to be had here. Samsung, what happened to your quantum dot oled? You were researching one, that technology is your only ticket to compete with lg on a technical level and being relevant again to videophiles.
OLED owner here. Did demo and video test on Q9FN and Sony 900F last week. Seriously considering 75" Q90 as my next tv.
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OLED owner here. Did demo and video test on Q9FN and Sony 900F last week. Seriously considering 75" Q90 as my next tv.
Not good to put in a theater room are they, good enough for casual gaming in a lit room. Theater room , either an oled or a JVC D-ILA.
I was just checking out specification on this Q90, what really has changed at the core technolgy level compared to the older Q9FN? I dont see any major difference. Which brings me to my point about no more innovation. We had FALD's with a couple hundred dimmable zones like 10 years ago as well.
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Not good to put in a theater room are they, good enough for casual gaming in a lit room. Theater room , either an oled or a JVC D-ILA.
I was just checking out specification on this Q90, what really has changed at the core technolgy level compared to the older Q9FN? I dont see any major difference. Which brings me to my point about no more innovation. We had FALD's with a couple hundred dimmable zones like 10 years ago as well.
They are likely to have grayish blacks just like the Sony Z9F due to the new "Ultra Viewing Angle" feature.
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Not good to put in a theater room are they, good enough for casual gaming in a lit room. Theater room , either an oled or a JVC D-ILA.
I was just checking out specification on this Q90, what really has changed at the core technolgy level compared to the older Q9FN? I dont see any major difference. Which brings me to my point about no more innovation. We had FALD's with a couple hundred dimmable zones like 10 years ago as well.
Viewing angles are much wider, while maintaining VA LCD contrast levels. Seen in person, the 2019 QLEDs are a significant leap forward in picture quality. Also the anti-reflective coating is now astonishingly effective. In terms of progress, there's no brick wall. It may be FALD, but the picture quality of these TVs speaks for itself.
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