Originally Posted by gocubs418
I am stating the facts and the other guy is just conjecture.
Fact: There is a chance OLED can or will burn in.
Fact: I don't accept the chance of burning in a $4,500 OLED TV.
Fact: Since OLED is not an option for me, I look at high end LCDs.
OLED fanboy: LCD suck, Samsung is trash, Liberals man. OLED has perfect blacks, HDR looks great regardless of the brightness, and OLED >>>>> LCD.
the question becomes how much are these concerns exaggerated? i'm going to start by saying, it appears that lcd's HAVE made some progress and ARE starting to produce pretty solid blacks.
but, is burn in really something that the average user experiences? i question how much oleds burn in compared to plasma, and crt before it. is burn in a real issue, or a scare tactic? if i've used crt and plasma for the last 30yrs without any problems, what are the chances oled will cause burn in? on the flip side, how much does the average person actually notice screen uniformity issues. if you watch with the lights on, black levels don't even matter, practically. and who actually watches tv from a 45* angle? so talking about off-angle viewing is pretty petty as well. even if the 'fact' is oleds are better in that regard, you still have to ask, does that matter?
i think is both cases, there are a few people that have exceptional situations and overstate the problems because to THEM they are deal breakers. If you watch CNN 12hrs a day, or play the same game for 50hrs straight, then burn in might be a legitimate concern. If you watch in a light controlled room 100% of the time and love watching sci-fi space movies, or dark action thrillers, then clouding might be a deal breaker for you.
i think the problem is both end up being extremely frustrated because manufacturers don't often give us the improvements we want, they give us the improvements they can.
hey, i want better contrast, fix those black levels
-ok, here's a display with 4000nits, that'll do it, right?
i don't want to have to worry about burn in, i need more reliability
-here's a tv you can hang on the wall like a poster, cool right?
every time the scene pans the display turns into a mess of blurry shapes and colors, i want natural looking motion
-let's give you 8k resolution, more pixels will surely make things look better
to be clear, i am a very skeptical tv shopper. i'm not saying it can't be done, but the experiences i've had, i've been disappointed far more by lcd tv than any other tech i've tried. and a lot of the things that bothered me, they claimed to have fixed almost every year, and haven't. so, while it appears as though uniformity is being addressed, which was a huge deal breaker the last time i brought home an lcd, i will need to see it to believe it. i'm not really sold on oled either. i have lived with plasma for many years, and i can generally accept the 'extra care' that is advised with them. but i am always aware of it, it does get annoying. i am willing to put up with it, if it's necessary for a good picture, but i'm always hoping i can get a good picture without it. and to top it off, i'm not even sure that oled's uniformity is actually better than lcd's.
i can say that i really don't care for more resolution, a brighter image, or a thinner screen though. and it seems all of those things are expensive add-ons. I would certainly consider buying a 1080p oled if they were still available, as i would consider a 1080p lcd that had perfect uniformity and solid black levels. so, maybe i don't actually hate lcd, or hate oled. But i do hate some of the choices manufacturers are making.
at the end of the day no display is perfect, i'd argue no display is even close right now, if you're going to be picky.