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After going back and forth, I decided to grab the 3 Year warranty from Costco on the 82Q90R. Peace of mind for 3.2% of purchase price at bad. Crazy how they can price all TVs over $1000 at $99 dollars.
I used to think these extended warranties were a sucker play. But, my 4 yr-old Samsung 75" that I paid $4K for recently had a panel failure. It was the first time I ever had a failure like this, but the cost of a square trade warranty would have been peanuts, compared to the cost of the whole TV. I just have to think of it as an insurance policy, and a cheap one.
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The major advantage for that top-end Panasonic player is it's ability to adjust the playback for displays (such as front projectors) that cannot reach 4000 nits of brightness. The Q90R will easily do 2000 nits and there is little to be gained from the capabilities of the UB9000.

incorrect. I have the UB824 with my Q9FN and the hdr optimizer does help because Samsung skews the Eotf curve and turning it on with some titles helps bring the whites back down and alot of detail that was clipped in the image is restored. it adds depth and a little more saturation by doing so. the additional settings on the Panasonic can also help if you find hdr too dark on Netflix, Amazon or 4k Blu rays by having a dynamic range slider and also has a new gamma slider too. the dynamic range slider works similar to Dynamic contrast but without the loss of color and clipping doesn't occur until the setting is cranked very high, it helps during the daytime for sure. highly recommended player and I also own the oppo 203.
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I assume UB820 and UB824 are exactly the same player, just different names for different countries.
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I assume UB820 and UB824 are exactly the same player, just different names for different countries.
And this is Q90R owner related how...?
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Can anyone who ordered an 82 inch (or maybe any size) confirm how many remotes they received? I see Vincent on HDTVtest and abt both show two remotes, one more traditional one and a newer(?) One with less buttons (and maybe silver in the uk). I only received the one streamlined remote so I'm wondering if I'm missing one or not...
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Can anyone who ordered an 82 inch (or maybe any size) confirm how many remotes they received? I see Vincent on HDTVtest and abt both show two remotes, one more traditional one and a newer(?) One with less buttons (and maybe silver in the uk). I only received the one streamlined remote so I'm wondering if I'm missing one or not...
European models come with both remotes. The models sold in the USA come with the one newer remote only.
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Can anyone who ordered an 82 inch (or maybe any size) confirm how many remotes they received? I see Vincent on HDTVtest and abt both show two remotes, one more traditional one and a newer(?) One with less buttons (and maybe silver in the uk). I only received the one streamlined remote so I'm wondering if I'm missing one or not...
Can confirm, just the one remote
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Thanks to all the great information in this thread. I was hoping folks could offer their advice here:



I recently purchased a 65 inch Q9FN that suffered from bad DSE. I spoke with Samsung support (who was actually great to deal with) and they agreed to replace the Q9FN with a 65 inch Q90r.



My concerns are:

1) Is the new Q90r going to suffer from the same DSE as the Q9FN? I've still seen mixed reports on the uniformity of the Q90 series, but in general it appears to be better.. true?

2) I actually saw bad motion artifacts on the Q9FN. I had Auto Motion Plus enabled with Blur Reduction set to 5 and Judder Reduction set to 3.. so maybe that was my issue. Should I expect the Q90r to handle motion the same as the Q9FN?



I'm debating switching to a Sony 900f instead, which handles DSE and Motion better, but with a little less "punch" to the picture in my opinion. Silly to consider such a switch?



Sidenote: I found the Q9FN to almost be blindingly bright when viewing in a dark room. I had to drop the backlight to 8-10 under these conditions.. is this expected? Have folks found a universal backlight setting that can be applied to day and night viewing, or is it just expected to have to adjust the backlight based on your room/lighting conditions? (and yes, I'm aware of the ECO option, but I don't like the TV auto controlling the brightness based on perceived room settings).



Thanks for any advice folks can offer.


Check my pictures towards the beginning of this thread which show the difference in dse between the q9fn and q90r. The difference is massive. The q90r destroys the q9fn in terms of uniformity and it’s not even remotely close. I had 5 q9fn sets and they all had an obscene amount of dse. I say definitely go q90r over 900f.
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Welp, had to return my 3rd Q90 recently due to the metal frame coming apart in the top right corner. While I loved the picture quality on the Q90, Samsung's QC is sh*t.

Might either wait a few months and try again or jump on the recent 77 C8 deals.

And off topic, but if someone is interested in Sammy's HW-Q70 soundbars (that they offer you as bundle to TV), don't bother. Overpriced for lame sound.
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That should be plenty of space for proper cooling.

I would still try a fan blowing on it though, just to see if it’s a heat issue or not.

I did some testing today. After one of the TV shutoffs I put my hand on the OCB and it was definitely not very warm at all, so it's not an overheating issue.



1) Changed the HDMI cable to the ROKU - no change
2) Turned off Auto Standby - No change
3) Switched to the CEC input on the OCB - no change
4) Connected the Roku direct to the OCB - no shutoffs during a 60 minute episode


So I'm not sure why I had no issues before going from my AVR to the OCB. All devices are connected to the AVR with a single Out going to the OCB. However, at this point (after 20 minutes of use on the XBOX, PS4, and Roku) the TV shuts off. The Nvidia Shield and my DirecTV box oddly have no issues whatsoever. There's no auto shutoffs on my AVR that are turned on. Pretty frustrating that I cannot use my TV as intended.


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I did some testing today. After one of the TV shutoffs I put my hand on the OCB and it was definitely not very warm at all, so it's not an overheating issue.



1) Changed the HDMI cable to the ROKU - no change
2) Turned off Auto Standby - No change
3) Switched to the CEC input on the OCB - no change
4) Connected the Roku direct to the OCB - no shutoffs during a 60 minute episode


So I'm not sure why I had no issues before going from my AVR to the OCB. All devices are connected to the AVR with a single Out going to the OCB. However, at this point (after 20 minutes of use on the XBOX, PS4, and Roku) the TV shuts off. The Nvidia Shield and my DirecTV box oddly have no issues whatsoever. There's no auto shutoffs on my AVR that are turned on. Pretty frustrating that I cannot use my TV as intended.


I have an Onkyo 676.


I feel your pain...sounds extremely frustrating. HDMI compatibility issues, which this sounds like to me, are far too common if you ask me. I recently had to retire an old LCD tv because the first generation HDMI connection wasn’t compatible with my new cable tv system. TV still worked perfect as well, so it was a shame to have to replace it.

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I feel your pain...sounds extremely frustrating. HDMI compatibility issues, which this sounds like to me, are far too common if you ask me. I recently had to retire an old LCD tv because the first generation HDMI connection wasn’t compatible with my new cable tv system. TV still worked perfect as well, so it was a shame to have to replace it.

The issue is trying to find which component is the "problem." When the TV turns off, both the source (XBOX, PS4, Roku, AppleTV) and AVR remain on and playing. The sound keeps going after the TV turns off so those components remain unaffected.
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Any truth to loss of Highlights and Detail?

Thanks for the feedback to my earlier post. One follow up..because I spend way too much time reading about TV's then actually watching one lol.
I've seen quite a few comments that highlights are too overblown on the Q90r and there is a loss of detail as a result. Are actual owners seeing this at all?
Additionally, I know the Q90r supposedly has less color gamut, but have any owners actually seen any differences... or is this just a numbers game with calibration software.
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Thank you...well that eliminates the Q90R.
There are work arounds if you want to do the work arounds that is.

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I used to think these extended warranties were a sucker play. But, my 4 yr-old Samsung 75" that I paid $4K for recently had a panel failure. It was the first time I ever had a failure like this, but the cost of a square trade warranty would have been peanuts, compared to the cost of the whole TV. I just have to think of it as an insurance policy, and a cheap one.
They say the odds of using one in a 5 year period is 10%
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IMO... it depends. We're just over 13' away with the new 82" on the stand. When hung, it'll be over 14'. ANY 4K material will/does look great on it... no problems. Watching cable/sat, etc is different. I've notice that I'm able to see more compression "stuff" than on previous 65" Sammy from 2010. Sooo... how much 4K will you be watching vs cable/sat stuff? In our situation we have a large, wide-open space that flows into the kitchen nook and kitchen (almost 50' long). It's working out great. Would I have been happy with the 75" not knowing how the 82" looks? Probably...

We also are getting a new console for under the TV. It'll be 79" long. We think it'll look great. Your stand will be two inches short on each end. The salesman at the fancy furniture store said make sure the console was LONGER than the width of the TV. It really didn't matter what he said. His store happen to be the local dealer for this particular console. We were going to get it no matter what...
Not much 4k at this point
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Never gave that much, may be another reason for the 75
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Thanks for the feedback to my earlier post. One follow up..because I spend way too much time reading about TV's then actually watching one lol.
I've seen quite a few comments that highlights are too overblown on the Q90r and there is a loss of detail as a result. Are actual owners seeing this at all?
Additionally, I know the Q90r supposedly has less color gamut, but have any owners actually seen any differences... or is this just a numbers game with calibration software.
Thanks!
Sent you a PM about the warranty process. would like some information if possible please!
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Not much 4k at this point
Mainly ota & dish network
Never gave that much, may be another reason for the 75
I was looking at the dimensions of the 75 and 82. The 75" is three inches shorter on each side and less than two inches on the top and bottom compared to the 82. You know? in the grand scheme of things it could be just insignificant. Plus, Amazon is selling the 82" for just $700 ($5498) more than the 75" ($4798)...

As far as the stand (in our case a console), I have no idea why the salesman said "longer than the TV." We have our 82" temporarily on a 72" long entertainment center. Look likes one big monster?

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Watched Man of Steel 4K HDR BR yesterday afternoon and was supremely impressed with the image I was seeing. Just incredible!

Blacks were OLED level inky and there was absolutely no blooming to be found. Most impressive given the amount of light in the room. What truly separates the Q90 from its peers is the remarkable anti-reflection filter. I’ve never had a set that could do justice to dark content during the day...UNTIL NOW!
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Can anyone with the European version give me the model number of the silver remote inside the battery cover? I'd like to try and replace the cheap plastic one we got in the states.
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Watched Man of Steel 4K HDR BR yesterday afternoon and was supremely impressed with the image I was seeing. Just incredible!



Blacks were OLED level inky and there was absolutely no blooming to be found. Most impressive given the amount of light in the room. What truly separates the Q90 from its peers is the remarkable anti-reflection filter. I’ve never had a set that could do justice to dark content during the day...UNTIL NOW!
Samsung tvs really do well with high bit rate content. blacks can become sloppy with low bit rate material on these.

i think I'm going to finally going to make my warranty call on my Q9FN tomorrow. If it's true the Q9FN panels are on backorder, the Q90R may be my automatic replacement and I'm going to push for the 82".

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Pulled the trigger on the 82” - install tomorrow. Replacing a 65” LG E6 OLED. Love the OLED, but with a viewing distance of almost 14 feet, it just wasn’t cutting it. Hoping to win the panel lottery!
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This might sound stupid, but has anyone got some settings for SDR and HDR based on the standard mode?

I do use movie mode for some content, but overall i must say i prefer the extra pop of the Standard mode
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Samsung tvs really do well with high bit rate content. blacks can become sloppy with low bit rate material on these.

i think I'm going to finally going to make my warranty call on my Q9FN tomorrow. If it's true the Q9FN panels are on backorder, the Q90R may be my automatic replacement and I'm going to push for the 82".

75Q9FN*55C8oled* Oppo 203/UB820*S10+*DenonX4200
Good idea and good luck! Then you will have the exact same duo as me with the 82” Q90 and the 55” C8.

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This might sound stupid, but has anyone got some settings for SDR and HDR based on the standard mode?

I do use movie mode for some content, but overall i must say i prefer the extra pop of the Standard mode
I've pretty much have kept mine on these:

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I have similar. I also did some WB
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You need warm 2 for the best skin tones and the most accurate representation of cyan.
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OneConnect: I simply wish this were smaller and produced less heat.

The manual says the box cannot be positioned on end, on its side or upside down. Think this is why, heat management, or... why?
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Can someone tell me if the one connect box for the 90R supports eARC?

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It does not.

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I'll have to revisit this setting...

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