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Agreed. Sounds like hockey, soccer, and golf are good test cases from what I'm reading. But more importantly evaluate the TV based on the quality of the image for material that you actually watch. To hell with slides. Why torture yourself looking for problems you wouldn't otherwise know exist when watching your normal viewing material?
I find that most uniformity issues always show themselves on Football (Soccer) as there is a awful lot of panning following the Ball .. always pick out Banding on OLEDS even if it does not show on other content .. as for slides let the kids play on them.. if issues are present they will make themselves known.
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I DON'T know if you have already been asked and replied .. but how are you finding your Q90R PQ wise, apologises if you have already.
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Has there been any news whether the q90r will get a hdmi 2.1 oneconnect box upgrade like the q900?
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Right but we have another owner stating it has horrible DSE here and returned the tv, granted with NO pics. That joker on youtube says his q90r has vertical banding and dse but again, never showed it once.

If there is any owners out there, can you please do those of us that are holding out ordering the q90r, post some grey screens?

Having delt with many q9’s (2017 and 2018 models) with bad dse that was distracting in all content, I am very heistant to purchase a q90r until I start to see that there is no dse or vertical banding.
From the mixed early reports, I don't understand how you can conclude there is no panel lottery on the Q90 until we've had a much larger statistic of owner reports (unless you're paying for questions-free-return-policy [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]).
All tvs have panel lottery, what I am trying to say is I would like to get more reports with actual pictures showing what the DSE and vertical banding would be on these. Even with that there is a large chance I could get a panel that is worse or the same etc.

Do you not remember what the 2017 Q9 looked like when it came out? It literally had vertical jail bars and that was a $6k tv when launched! They did have a firmware update that fixed that issue for most units but I saw one where that firmware did not fix that issue. Samsung has a track record of amazing panels with class leading anti glare BUT they really leave much to desire in the uniformity and motion 120hz pwm 😞 .


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Until i actually get one or have the opportunity to see one i may be talking out of my backside.. as i have been a OLED owner so it would not mean a jot whether this tv is less bright than 2018 Qleds as i have no point of reference same goes for Black level.. my main concern is DSE and how clear it would show in Football(Soccer) that would be my deal breaker.. just to say in the UK we get a Q85R which is slightly cheaper or so we assume .. as of now no pricing or release date.. all we have to offer is speculation.
One owner of the Q90 has stated they don't have DSE, so let's hope that's consistent across panels and sizes.
Right but we have another owner stating it has horrible DSE here and returned the tv, granted with NO pics. That joker on youtube says his q90r has vertical banding and dse but again, never showed it once.

If there is any owners out there, can you please do those of us that are holding out ordering the q90r, post some grey screens?

Having delt with many q9’s (2017 and 2018 models) with bad dse that was distracting in all content, I am very heistant to purchase a q90r until I start to see that there is no dse or vertical banding.
Is there a video on YouTube that would show grey screens? Mine is being delivered tomorrow.
There is! Just search 5% and 10% grey screen and might aswell test Modernwize’s dse test which is hockey based content.
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THE 5% Grey screen have the blobs of DSE clearly showing, the White Ice Hockey is less definitive as to whether it has DSE but the pics are small.
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As requested.
I'm assuming it's less apparent to the naked eye and real world content viewing?
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Right but we have another owner stating it has horrible DSE here and returned the tv, granted with NO pics. That joker on youtube says his q90r has vertical banding and dse but again, never showed it once.

If there is any owners out there, can you please do those of us that are holding out ordering the q90r, post some grey screens?

Having delt with many q9’s (2017 and 2018 models) with bad dse that was distracting in all content, I am very heistant to purchase a q90r until I start to see that there is no dse or vertical banding.
From the mixed early reports, I don't understand how you can conclude there is no panel lottery on the Q90 until we've had a much larger statistic of owner reports (unless you're paying for questions-free-return-policy [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]).
All tvs have panel lottery, what I am trying to say is I would like to get more reports with actual pictures showing what the DSE and vertical banding would be on these. Even with that there is a large chance I could get a panel that is worse or the same etc.

Do you not remember what the 2017 Q9 looked like when it came out? It literally had vertical jail bars and that was a $6k tv when launched! They did have a firmware update that fixed that issue for most units but I saw one where that firmware did not fix that issue. Samsung has a track record of amazing panels with class leading anti glare BUT they really leave much to desire in the uniformity and motion 120hz pwm 😞 .


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Until i actually get one or have the opportunity to see one i may be talking out of my backside.. as i have been a OLED owner so it would not mean a jot whether this tv is less bright than 2018 Qleds as i have no point of
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Thank you! Your panels looks good! I assume a AA01 panel? I know the camera makes it look worse than in person.
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Has there been any news whether the q90r will get a hdmi 2.1 oneconnect box upgrade like the q900?
Doesn't look like it based on initial reports.

Also looks like Q90R doesn't get eARC? If true that's somewhat shocking to me and maybe a deal breaker.

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All tvs have panel lottery, what I am trying to say is I would like to get more reports with actual pictures showing what the DSE and vertical banding would be on these. Even with that there is a large chance I could get a panel that is worse or the same etc.

Do you not remember what the 2017 Q9 looked like when it came out? It literally had vertical jail bars and that was a $6k tv when launched! They did have a firmware update that fixed that issue for most units but I saw one where that firmware did not fix that issue. Samsung has a track record of amazing panels with class leading anti glare BUT they really leave much to desire in the uniformity and motion 120hz pwm 😞 .


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Yep. It is an AA01 panel. And yes, the camera makes it look substantially worse than viewing in person.
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The first pic with the 5% looks awfully bright for 5%. Is that from a gray uniformity test?
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This looks much much cleaner than all 5 of my q9fn that i ran the same test on.
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This looks much much cleaner than all 5 of my q9fn that i ran the same test on.
Awesome! This is my first time testing for something like this, so wasn't entirely sure what was considered "good" or not.

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The first pic with the 5% looks awfully bright for 5%. Is that from a gray uniformity test?
Yes, it is from a 5% gray uniformity test video on Youtube. I think it's just my phone camera making it look brighter. It did not look as bright in person.

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I DON'T know if you have already been asked and replied .. but how are you finding your Q90R PQ wise, apologises if you have already.
I don't think I could be any happier with the TV than I am now. I dialed back a few settings (anti-judder and something with blur) and think it looks great. We watched an older DVD last night and in a few dark scenes I didn't think it was handled very well or consistently (dark scene's lighting seemed to go from light to dark inconsistently). But I guess I'm a pretty easy grader because I'm really happy. Of course, that could also be moving from 50 to 65, and to a very bright TV in a very bright room.
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Agreed. Sounds like hockey, soccer, and golf are good test cases from what I'm reading. But more importantly evaluate the TV based on the quality of the image for material that you actually watch. To hell with slides. Why torture yourself looking for problems you wouldn't otherwise know exist when watching your normal viewing material?
When it comes to dse, ive been through so many sets i know exactly what level of it bothers me so when i do test patterns i look for the level of dse that will effect real live content. Problem last year is the magnolia design center near me that had it hooked up to cable tv, they only had the 75" and that one was clear when watching hockey. Im hoping they get in the 65" q90r on display so i can test hockey before making a decision.
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Yes, it is from a 5% gray uniformity test video on Youtube. I think it's just my phone camera making it look brighter. It did not look as bright in person.
Thanks. I was confused as to why it was so bright for 5%. I have th Q80 and when I ran the gray test from YouTube, 5% was much darker. Good to know. Hope you enjoy your new TV.
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Everything matches what you said to check. I didn't have to change anything.

Thanks

What's interesting is that while on the TV input on my receiver I can run the sound test in the TV's "Self Diagnosis" menu and I get the test sounds through my Onkyo just fine, but nothing in Netflix or Amazon Prime.
Well I'm sad to report my Q90 is getting returned to Amazon. UPS will be delivering my replacement on Wednesday and picking up the return at the same time.

I really hate being in the panel lottery again.

ARC isn't working on this TV. I know I said above that the test sounds play fine, but they don't. They play for a second or two and cut out. If I hook back up my UN65F000 everything works perfectly through ARC so I know it isn't my receiver configuration.

I spent over 2 hours with first level Samsung Tech Support last Thursday. He did a remote connection and didn't accomplish much. He claimed it was my receiver and told me to contact Onkyo. That ticked me off. I told him everything worked fine with my old setup and no it wasn't my receiver.

He finally agreed to send out Service Techs. I got a call last Friday from a Samsung Q90 project engineer and he had me check a few things. I told him I figured the One Connect Box was bad. He said it was probably that or the One Connect Cable and he was leaning towards it being the cable. He told me he would get them out to the techs right away.

At 1:30 PM today two service techs showed up with no replacement parts of any kind. They said everything is on back order and it could be weeks before the parts came in. They verified the problem and were talking about taking the back off and replacing the main board along with the OCB and cable when the parts came in.

No way do I want to wait 2 weeks or longer for replacement parts and no way am I going to let them tear into my brand new TV to do repairs. So as much as I hate to do it, back it goes.

When I called Amazon's customer service the rep moved me up to the next level of customer service. This rep arranged have have the old TV picked up at the same time the new one will be delivered. She also took $100 off the price and is having it credited to my credit card.

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Well I'm sad to report my Q90 is getting returned to Amazon. UPS will be delivering my replacement on Wednesday and picking up the return at the same time.

I really hate being in the panel lottery again.

ARC isn't working on this TV. I know I said above that the test sounds play fine, but they don't. They play for a second or two and cut out. If I hook back up my UN65F000 everything works perfectly through ARC so I know it isn't my receiver configuration.

I spent over 2 hours with first level Samsung Tech Support last Thursday. He did a remote connection and didn't accomplish much. He claimed it was my receiver and told me to contact Onkyo. That ticked me off. I told him everything worked fine with my old setup and no it wasn't my receiver.

He finally agreed to send out Service Techs. I got a call last Friday from a Samsung Q90 project engineer and he had me check a few things. I told him I figured the One Connect Box was bad. He said it was probably that or the One Connect Cable and he was leaning towards it being the cable. He told me he would get them out to the techs right away.

At 1:30 PM today two service techs showed up with no replacement parts of any kind. They said everything is on back order and it could be weeks before the parts came in. They verified the problem and were talking about taking the back off and replacing the main board along with the OCB and cable when the parts came in.

No way do I want to wait 2 weeks or longer for replacement parts and no way am I going to let them tear into my brand new TV to do repairs. So as much as I hate to do it, back it goes.

When I called Amazon's customer service the rep moved me up to the next level of customer service. This rep arranged have have the old TV picked up at the same time the new one will be delivered. She also took $100 off the price and is having it credited to my credit card.
It very well could be your receiver. I know certain Denon receivers needed Over-the-Air updates in order to work with the new Samsungs (2018). This had to do with the HDMI 2.1 features that were implemented (ALLM specifically).

How old is your Onkyo receiver? They may need to send out an update.
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It very well could be your receiver. I know certain Denon receivers needed Over-the-Air updates in order to work with the new Samsungs (2018). This had to do with the HDMI 2.1 features that were implemented (ALLM specifically).

How old is your Onkyo receiver? They may need to send out an update.
It's an Onkyo TX-RZ920. It's only about a year old. It's got the latest firmware. I've been checking everyday since I got this TV. I also went on Onkyo's site and verified I have the latest firmware.

Interestingly, I mentioned the updated HDMI connectors as a possibility to the Samsung project engineer when he called me. I said I heard they were 2.1 ready with a firmware update. He said that is only for the Q900. They will be getting HDMI 2.1 and that I shouldn't have any HDMI compatibility issues.

I took away from that brief conversation that the Q90 wouldn't be getting an HDMI 2.1 update. Please don't take that as a fact. It still should be confirmed one way or another by another source.
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How old is your Onkyo receiver? They may need to send out an update.
It's an Onkyo TX-RZ920. It's only about a year old. It's got the latest firmware. I've been checking everyday since I got this TV. I also went on Onkyo's site and verified I have the latest firmware.

Interestingly, I mentioned the updated HDMI connectors as a possibility to the Samsung project engineer when he called me. I said I heard they were 2.1 ready with a firmware update. He said that is only for the Q900. They will be getting HDMI 2.1 and that I shouldn't have any HDMI compatibility issues.

I took away from that brief conversation that the Q90 wouldn't be getting an HDMI 2.1 update. Please don't take that as a fact. It still should be confirmed one way or another by another source.
I wonder if this just means that Samsung won’t be pursuing certification, but we could still see a firmware update for something like eARC.
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How old is your Onkyo receiver? They may need to send out an update.
It's an Onkyo TX-RZ920. It's only about a year old. It's got the latest firmware. I've been checking everyday since I got this TV. I also went on Onkyo's site and verified I have the latest firmware.

Interestingly, I mentioned the updated HDMI connectors as a possibility to the Samsung project engineer when he called me. I said I heard they were 2.1 ready with a firmware update. He said that is only for the Q900. They will be getting HDMI 2.1 and that I shouldn't have any HDMI compatibility issues.

I took away from that brief conversation that the Q90 wouldn't be getting an HDMI 2.1 update. Please don't take that as a fact. It still should be confirmed one way or another by another source.
I wonder if this just means that Samsung won’t be pursuing certification, but we could still see a firmware update for something like eARC.
this earc update or not is the deciding factor for me. I wish we could just get a solid yes or no if it will happen
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this earc update or not is the deciding factor for me. I wish we could just get a solid yes or no if it will happen
Usually when a company is silent it's because it's not good news. Just saying. HDMI 2.1 looks like a complete bust with Samsung, gonna have another look at LG's IPSs, maybe they finally have decent FALD
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Hi everyone,

I am very close to pulling the trigger for a 65" Q90R but I need a little help with one spec that I can't seem to find any info on.

Can someone please let me know the locations of the traditional VESA mount points? Specifically, I need to know the vertical distance to the lower and upper set of mount points to determine if the TV will fit in my setup. I am planning to mount it over a fireplace in a stone-encased niche. I don't have much wiggle room, and I can't really move or replace the articulating mount that's there already - at least not without a lot of stone work. So I'm hoping that the vertical placement of the VESA mount points is within my tolerances.

I can't find any pictures of the back side of the TV online, and, the 360 degree view on the Samsung website has a bug and won't load past 72%... otherwise I'd just scale the picture and reverse calculate the heights.

Would someone who has a set be willing to grab a few quick measurements for me? Thanks! I hope to be a proud owner soon!
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Usually when a company is silent it's because it's not good news. Just saying. HDMI 2.1 looks like a complete bust with Samsung, gonna have another look at LG's IPSs, maybe they finally have decent FALD
If Samsung was planning to do HDMI 2.1 upgrade, it would be advertised already like a big feature coming soon. I don't expect 2.1 in any 2019 4ks from Samsung.
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75" Q90R is up with a purchase option, it is priced at $4999 and ships April.

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...qn75q90rafxza/

Thank you so much!

I hope to purchase in the AM.
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Agreed. Sounds like hockey, soccer, and golf are good test cases from what I'm reading. But more importantly evaluate the TV based on the quality of the image for material that you actually watch. To hell with slides. Why torture yourself looking for problems you wouldn't otherwise know exist when watching your normal viewing material?
When it comes to dse, ive been through so many sets i know exactly what level of it bothers me so when i do test patterns i look for the level of dse that will effect real live content. Problem last year is the magnolia design center near me that had it hooked up to cable tv, they only had the 75" and that one was clear when watching hockey. Im hoping they get in the 65" q90r on display so i can test hockey before making a decision.
I have 3 BBs near me and none of them have cable feed. I complain just about every time I go in.
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If Samsung was planning to do HDMI 2.1 upgrade, it would be advertised already like a big feature coming soon. I don't expect 2.1 in any 2019 4ks from Samsung.
Samsung was very aggressive with pricing of the Q90 ($5000 for the 75Q90 versus $6000 for the 75Q9FN); I fear lack of hardware upgrades may be a likely consequence of that pricing strategy...

The higher-priced 8K Q900 seems to be getting all the priority when it comes to upgrading to HDMI 2.1.
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If Samsung was planning to do HDMI 2.1 upgrade, it would be advertised already like a big feature coming soon. I don't expect 2.1 in any 2019 4ks from Samsung.
Yea, which is why I think the chances of eARC being patched in are slim.
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this earc update or not is the deciding factor for me. I wish we could just get a solid yes or no if it will happen
Usually when a company is silent it's because it's not good news. Just saying. HDMI 2.1 looks like a complete bust with Samsung, gonna have another look at LG's IPSs, maybe they finally have decent FALD
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Usually when a company is silent it's because it's not good news. Just saying. HDMI 2.1 looks like a complete bust with Samsung, gonna have another look at LG's IPSs, maybe they finally have decent FALD
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If Samsung was planning to do HDMI 2.1 upgrade, it would be advertised already like a big feature coming soon. I don't expect 2.1 in any 2019 4ks from Samsung.
Yea, which is why I think the chances of eARC being patched in are slim.
im holding out hope as earc can be done without 2.1. I mean if they are patching samsung soundbars with earc, which would only benefit samsungs competitors instead of samsung itself just doesnt make sense to me.
Im gonna look at lg b9 or lg lcds also, or wait for tcl x10. My big 4 features are allm, earc, vrr, and low input lag. I prioritize these and will sacrifice a small amt of pic quality for it, to a certain point anyway. If i knew an earc update would be provided in future, id order q80 65” right now
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Yea, which is why I think the chances of eARC being patched in are slim.
Unfortunately I think you are right. eARC was the most desirable 2.1 feature for me. My current AVR needs to be replaced and my plan was to replace it this year with purchase of a new TV and then connect my gaming video sources to the TV directly for lowest latency, etc. and then run audio back to the TV over eARC as I really don’t want to replace my AVR a second time in just a year or two.

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I wonder if this just means that Samsung won’t be pursuing certification, but we could still see a firmware update for something like eARC.
That's what I'm thinking as well.

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