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Those of you with 82, did you have a screen protector on the TV? I know 75 has it, but my new 82 didn't.

There is what looks like a plastic protector right under the panel (on the black strip), but I'm not 100% sure if it's a plastic wrap or not, so I didn't remove it.

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Can this update be pushed to the tv manually via USB? I have no update available on my set so I might try to update it manually.
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Those of you with 82, did you have a screen protector on the TV? I know 75 has it, but my new 82 didn't.

There is what looks like a plastic protector right under the panel (on the black strip), but I'm not 100% sure if it's a plastic wrap or not, so I didn't remove it.

For those with the 75", is there a screen protector that needs to be removed prior to using?
Mine is scheduled to be delivered Saturday.
Wondering if my wife & I can lift the tv onto the stand we will be using?

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Problem with firmware 1303.7 updated today.
Adaptative brightness (intelligent mode) is broken for sources like Netflix or PC (HDMI), picture is very dark and I have to disable it and enable it again each time I start or stop a serie/movie to make it work...
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Those of you with 82, did you have a screen protector on the TV? I know 75 has it, but my new 82 didn't.

There is what looks like a plastic protector right under the panel (on the black strip), but I'm not 100% sure if it's a plastic wrap or not, so I didn't remove it.

Mine did not have it on the screen, but it did have it on the bezels and if I remember correctly the black strip you are referring to.
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I had replaced my 75" with an 82" for about 10 minutes. I had them take the 82" back. The top and bottom two LED backlight zones of the 75" line up with the black bars on a widescreen 2.35:1 film perfectly, which leads to black bars with minimal blooming.

The 82" TV's black bars line up with 1 and a half zones, which led to unacceptable blooming, in my opinion. I preferred the 75" by far. But I miss the extra size of the 82" that I had for those 10 minutes.
Food for thought...

Strange as it may sound and maybe just coincidence, but I’ve not noticed any blooming into the 2.35 bars since updating to the 1303 firmware. I mean, it was already hardly noticeable before, but for my last two 2.35 4K BR since the update, I’ve noticed basically zero blooming into the bars or anywhere else. I will be paying close attention to see if this is all in my head or maybe Samsung tweaked their FALD algorithms. I also noticed much less blooming while watching Netflix last night, which is what really got me to thinking about this.

I’ve heard of a few people reporting similar FALD improvements with 1303 on their Q900’s as well.

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what happened to Keithian and his replacement? he accidently tore off something he thought was a film protector that ended up NOT being a film protector?
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what happened to Keithian and his replacement? he accidently tore off something he thought was a film protector that ended up NOT being a film protector?
That reminds me...to those who were asking earlier, the 82” doesn’t come with a protective film on the screen, but I do believe all the smaller sizes do.
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On Saturday I got delivery of a 65" LG C9. From what I read and saw in store I thought it would be the right choice. I think I made a mistake...

I was originally going to go with the Samsung Q90R but got talked out of it by a few friends and said go OLED. It's a nice TV but it doesn't pop like I thought it would and like the Samsungs do.

I think the Q90R is the way to go, would the Samsung be good for a room that isn't very bright but not really dark either.

I just want the colors to be brighter and I feel the OLED isn't giving me that.
OLED is not made for everyone, I guess your an LED kinda guy and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Those of you with 82, did you have a screen protector on the TV? I know 75 has it, but my new 82 didn't.

There is what looks like a plastic protector right under the panel (on the black strip), but I'm not 100% sure if it's a plastic wrap or not, so I didn't remove it.
No film on my 82" when I opened it.
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... I actually received the tv Wednesday and the display was trashed. The freight co didn’t inform me when he arrived, plopped the tv flat in my loading dock and took off. Talk about a facepalm moment. Literally stuff all over the box about not laying it flat. It won’t even turn on. Anyway the replacement tv is already on the way and Monday the new tv will be sent and my broken one picked up.

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I can't believe you even took the time to install base and turn it on. I know I would want to, but I'd keep everything untouched to prove I didn't do it. That damage would be a non-starter (in this case literally). I've never returned a TV, so I'm guessing it's a no questions asked policy? Did you buy it directly from Samsung?
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Technically speaking they should be the same. The one connect box is double the size though, as was posted by another member. The bigger box is likely housing a much bigger power supply and I suspect the 82” may be brighter as a result, but I’m just speculating. The 82’ also has a different FALD arrangement, with 40x12 zone layout instead of 30x16 in the smaller sizes. We don’t know the reasons as to why Samsung chose the different layout for the 82”.

As far as connections and settings go...I’m currently using Rtings picture settings and overall I’m quite satisfied with the results. For connections on your Xbox, you will need to run it direct to the one connect box, if you want to use the gaming features like VRR, and then ARC back to the 6500h. Everything else should be fine running through the AVR and then over to the Q90.

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I'm going through the first calibration of the Q90R right now. Assuming that Rtings published numbers on the 65" are reliable (and I believe they are), the 82" is definitely brighter. Significantly so.
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I'm going through the first calibration of the Q90R right now. Assuming that Rtings published numbers on the 65" are reliable (and I believe they are), the 82" is definitely brighter. Significantly so.


you got any hard numbers for brightness? I remember last years Q900 had different hdr ratings for the larger sizes over the 65.
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I'm going through the first calibration of the Q90R right now. Assuming that Rtings published numbers on the 65" are reliable (and I believe they are), the 82" is definitely brighter. Significantly so.
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you got any hard numbers for brightness? I remember last years Q900 had different hdr ratings for the larger sizes over the 65.

Sure do.



Peak 2% - 1484 nits
Peak 10% - 1607 nits

Peak 25% - 1497 nits
Peak 50% - 890 nits
Peak 100% - 574 nits



Sustained 100% and 50% are basically locked to their corresponding peak numbers. The smaller windows do roll off their brightness but it happens pretty slowly and I'm too tired to see where they stabilize. Maybe tomorrow.
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Sure do.



Peak 2% - 1484 nits
Peak 10% - 1607 nits

Peak 25% - 1497 nits
Peak 50% - 890 nits
Peak 100% - 574 nits



Sustained 100% and 50% are basically locked to their corresponding peak numbers. The smaller windows do roll off their brightness but it happens pretty slowly and I'm too tired to see where they stabilize. Maybe tomorrow.


this is AFTER calibrating the white point? (which usually drops the nit numbers right?) movie mode?

also, how do these compare to your Q9FN numbers?

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this is AFTER calibrating the white point? (which usually drops the nit numbers right?) movie mode?

also, how do these compare to your Q9FN numbers?

This is after calibrating everything with Movie mode, Backlight at 50, local dimming on high, and Auto Motion plus disabled. Local dimming in any other mode drops those numbers substantially.



I can't tell you my exact numbers on the Q9 because I can't find the damned report and I no longer have the laptop I did the calibration on. Best I can do for right now is tell you they were roughly similar. There is a weird effect on the Q90 though where on full color slides the edges of the screen look slightly desaturated. I never saw this on the Q9. I'm guessing it's due to the optical layer they are using on the screen and I have never seen anything out of the ordinary in actual content so no big deal.
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I have a question regarding the One Connect Box. Does it get very warm? I ordered a 75Q90 and should receive it within a week and I was planning on putting it in my AV cabinet (TV will sitting on top). I'm not sure if I like the idea of a separate box almost went with a Q80 but got a good deal on a 90. So any feedback would be welcome on a recommended location for the OCB. Thanks.
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Thanks guys. Was worried there for a second.

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Mine did not have it on the screen, but it did have it on the bezels and if I remember correctly the black strip you are referring to.
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Finally managed to set up my 82 and holy s#*t, it's huge. The panel however looks much better than the 75. Minimal DSE and no problems with dust under the screen.
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Finally managed to set up my 82 and holy s#*t, it's huge. The panel however looks much better than the 75. Minimal DSE and no problems with dust under the screen.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about the 82” panels. Mine is excellent.

The 75” Q9FN that I tried out back in January had a ton of DSE.
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For those with the 75", is there a screen protector that needs to be removed prior to using?
Mine is scheduled to be delivered Saturday.
Wondering if my wife & I can lift the tv onto the stand we will be using?
My previous 75s did, you should see a blue tab on the top left corner if I remember correctly. There's also gonna be a bar code sticker on the protector.
My wife and I managed to lift it about 4 feet up, just take it slow.
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Is it the consensus that the 82 inch has a better panel than the 75?
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For those with the 75", is there a screen protector that needs to be removed prior to using?
Mine is scheduled to be delivered Saturday.
Wondering if my wife & I can lift the tv onto the stand we will be using?
Yes, i've been through 2 of the 75" and they both had film protectors. I was able to wall mount the TV with my girlfriend, neither one of us is particularly strong

She did struggle a bit though, so if you have a neighbor or friend to help, that might be best.
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Is it the consensus that the 82 inch has a better panel than the 75?
I tried 2 75s (3rd was shattered, so that doesn't count) and both panels were worse than my 1st and hopefully last attempt at 82. DSE was very visible on 75s.
If I'm not mistaken, someone in this thread said that 82 is manufactured by a different company.
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I tried 2 75s (3rd was shattered, so that doesn't count) and both panels were worse than my 1st and hopefully last attempt at 82. DSE was very visible on 75s.
If I'm not mistaken, someone in this thread said that 82 is manufactured by a different company.
That’s good to know. I am currently on my 2nd LG C8 77 and the banding is just brutal. I’m to the point where I may move away from OLED into this set. I just wanted to see how bad the DSE has been for customers.
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Those of you with 82, did you have a screen protector on the TV? I know 75 has it, but my new 82 didn't.

There is what looks like a plastic protector right under the panel (on the black strip), but I'm not 100% sure if it's a plastic wrap or not, so I didn't remove it.
Though I have had my set for over a month, I've been still trying to see if there was a screen protector on it. I guess the 82" doesn't...

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I tried 2 75s (3rd was shattered, so that doesn't count) and both panels were worse than my 1st and hopefully last attempt at 82. DSE was very visible on 75s.
If I'm not mistaken, someone in this thread said that 82 is manufactured by a different company.
I guess i got lucky, my 75" has no DSE issues that i have been able to see...

Did you use a specific test to determine DSE? I'd be curious to try out whatever you used.
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I guess i got lucky, my 75" has no DSE issues that i have been able to see...

Did you use a specific test to determine DSE? I'd be curious to try out whatever you used.
I don't have any DSE on my 75" either. The test is to just use various shades of uniform grey screen to look for color shifts or darkened/lightened areas.
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I guess i got lucky, my 75" has no DSE issues that i have been able to see...

Did you use a specific test to determine DSE? I'd be curious to try out whatever you used.


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