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A heads up. Some discussion on another thread that there will be a new HDCP 2.3 coming. Probably targeted to protection of streaming of 8K video, so it should not be an issue with the Q90. But, it will be something else to look for in the 2020 one-connect box: Full HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3. If e-ARC comes to the Q90, I wouldn't be at all concerned about this; but if I were planning on an 8K set, I would. It's kinda like the 4K Sony 79" set I bought on first release: the very next year HDR became available--a really useful capability. There is always something new coming and I just have to decide what is "good enough". I've decided that the Q90, when it gets e-ARC, is good enough for 5 years. Too many new things to come in the 8K world to spend 2X as much as for a good 4K display now. When I look at the 8K displays at my local Magnolia, I'm impressed. The 4K material upscaled to 8K on an 82" display looks like 4K material on a 55" set--really clear picture--and I'd like to see that on my next big set. But, I think if I bought one of today's 8K sets I'd be shortchanged in the near future. Just as I missed out on HDR by buying one of Sony's first 4K sets, I think I'd be having trouble accessing some of the new sources of 8K material in the future if I bought one of today's 8K sets. If Samsung does as they say and offers an upgraded one-connect box with those features for the 2019 8K sets, that problem could go away.
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Are you having to go into the TV's picture setting? I keep mine on "Custom" (Fit Screen?). I've noticed that some of our locals subchannels are stretching their pictures. That's when I switch it to 4:3 on the TV...
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I am super excited as I recently received my TV! The OCB recognized my Apple TV in the cabinet but the Samsung remote would not control it with out the cabinet door open (infrared). I read today that deleting the Universal Remote for the Apple TV will allow it to work over HDMI-CEC and how beautifully it works now!

I have been playing with some initial recommended picture settings for the MOVIE picture mode from Flatpanelshd, AVForums, Digitaltrends and Rtings. I may eventually have the TV professionally calibrated.

Is there a consensus for a particular "Picture Mode" when watching sports or when watching news, game shows, or sitcoms or do you MOVIE picture mode for all your viewing?'
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I have been playing with some initial recommended picture settings for the MOVIE picture mode from Flatpanelshd, AVForums, Digitaltrends and Rtings. I may eventually have the TV professionally calibrated.

Is there a consensus for a particular "Picture Mode" when watching sports or when watching news, game shows, or sitcoms or do you MOVIE picture mode for all your viewing?'
Would you provide a link for Flatpanelshd, AVForums, digitaltrends picture settings.
I too am interested in trying their settings.
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hi, has anyone got the universal remote to control the nvidia shield ? and if so how
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Since Nvidia has recently patched in Gsync support on many Freesync enabled displays, can you tell me if the Samsung Q90R is supported through a DP>HDMI adapter?



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? for you all, can someone recommend a good wall mount for the 82 inch version of this TV? I would like to have a full motion wall mount, as it will be inside a entertainment center.
I recently installed this mount in preparation for the 82” Q90. It’s not cheap, although you can find lower than MSRP from many dealers. And it’s not thin, but it does have a full range of motion and alignment tweaks. Being a single arm it has a much wider horizontal range than the dual arm types. This was important for my situation since I need it to swing horizontally from in front of a fireplace when it’s in use. However, the main reason I picked it was that its a beast of a mount for weight capacity. Even at full extension I can sit on it and bounce up and down making me very comfortable that the much lower weight of the 82 will do just fine.
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Would you provide a link for Flatpanelshd, AVForums, digitaltrends picture settings.
I too am interested in trying their settings.
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Most leave the settings at their default value. Backlight, Digital Clean View, Local Dimming, and Contrast Enhancer are some of the tweaks they make in addition to the White Balance. I have not made any changes to my White Balance.

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AVFOrums and DigitalTrends just gleamed some settings recommendations for Auto Motion for sports.

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HDR is automatically enabled for the native apps. When you start playing HDR content, a small HDR icon appears next to the picture mode on the quick settings menu. Once you start playing HDR content, some of the settings change automatically, including the Backlight, which increases to 'Max.' We recommend leaving these settings to their default settings in HDR.

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I have turned off Adaptive Brightness and changed my backlight to 45 for now. I have a fairly bright room.
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New to this TV

So found out my existing TV cannot be repaired so I am getting a replacement sent to me by Samsung (getting the 65Q90R). Right now I have my "4K" Xfinity box and the PS4 Pro connected to my Onkyo TN676 receiver. Should I be connecting those devices straight to the TV's one connect box and use ARC to the receiver, or should I keep it the way it is?


How does it effect sound or video quality?


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PS - On a side note, my old KS9000 limited the size of external drives (for playing video) to 2TB, does the Q90R support a larger drive?

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So found out my existing TV cannot be repaired so I am getting a replacement sent to me by Samsung (getting the 65Q90R). Right now I have my "4K" Xfinity box and the PS4 Pro connected to my Onkyo TN676 receiver. Should I be connecting those devices straight to the TV's one connect box and use ARC to the receiver, or should I keep it the way it is?


How does it effect sound or video quality?


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PS - On a side note, my old KS9000 limited the size of external drives (for playing video) to 2TB, does the Q90R support a larger drive?

The Samsung interface is very nice for switching between HDMI devices and recognizes many of the devices automatically. I would definitely plug the Xfinity and PS4 directly into the OCB. I know with Dish TV satellite box plugged directly into the OCB provided suggestions for TV shows and the Q90R has a game mode to improve lag times along with other settings for games. The audio should pass through to your receiver without any degradation... even Dolby Atmos should pass through.

I haven't heard what the drive limitations are for the Q90R but you could possibly partition the drives to resolve any size limitations.
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Fragility of the One Connect Cable

Have a week old 65 inch Q90R that suddenly stopped powering on Tuesday. Repair center came out today, swapped out the One Connect cable and we were back in business. The problem is, I didnt touch the One Connect cable from when I set it up a week ago.. it just "broke". The tech said they are really fragile and to be really careful with it. Yikes.
Have others taken extreme precaution with this fiber optic cable? Have folks been able to successfully run it through a wall without damage? It's got me a little paranoid now.

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The Samsung interface is very nice for switching between HDMI devices and recognizes many of the devices automatically. I would definitely plug the Xfinity and PS4 directly into the OCB. I know with Dish TV satellite box plugged directly into the OCB provided suggestions for TV shows and the Q90R has a game mode to improve lag times along with other settings for games. The audio should pass through to your receiver without any degradation... even Dolby Atmos should pass through.

I haven't heard what the drive limitations are for the Q90R but you could possibly partition the drives to resolve any size limitations.



Thanks so much for the reply, looks like I will be connecting the cable box and PS4 Pro directly to the OCB, glad that it will pass the audio through.


The KS9000 has no trouble with my 4TB drive, but if the drive has close to or more than 2TB of data on it, it will no see newly created video files. It will see the files that were on it before, just won't read anything new once it hits 2TB, if that makes sense.
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Have a week old 65 inch Q90R that suddenly stopped powering on Tuesday. Repair center came out today, swapped out the One Connect cable and we were back in business. The problem is, I didnt touch the One Connect cable from when I set it up a week ago.. it just "broke". The tech said they are really fragile and to be really careful with it. Yikes.
Have others taken extreme precaution with this fiber optic cable? Have folks been able to successfully run it through a wall without damage? It's got me a little paranoid now.

I've had no issue with any of my OC cables. I don't take any special precautions with them either other than to ensure I don't kink them.
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The audio should pass through to your receiver without any degradation... even Dolby Atmos should pass through.
I believe Dolby Atmos needs eARC, as does Lossless.

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I believe Dolby Atmos needs eARC, as does Lossless.

DD+ Atmos can pass via ARC. TrueHD Atmos requires eARC. Aside from the bluray format the difference is mostly academic.

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Have a week old 65 inch Q90R that suddenly stopped powering on Tuesday. Repair center came out today, swapped out the One Connect cable and we were back in business. The problem is, I didnt touch the One Connect cable from when I set it up a week ago.. it just "broke". The tech said they are really fragile and to be really careful with it. Yikes.
Have others taken extreme precaution with this fiber optic cable? Have folks been able to successfully run it through a wall without damage? It's got me a little paranoid now.
My run was from over the fireplace down to a built-in cabinet. I knew that this cable was fiber optic with power in it. Using a pull string, I was extra cautious. The quick setup guide showed a picture of not rolling up the cable less than a 4 inch diameter.

Rtings wasn't very careful as they wadded the remaining cable up - http://lnnk.in/fG6

To keep it from being crimped at all...I didn't run my cable through the channel/groove on the TV or roll it up.
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I'm a newbie to this thread, forgive if its been asked/answered already. Any news of Samsung adding/supporting Dolby Vision any time soon? I would buy the Q90 today if I thought there was future support coming. Thanks!
Dolby Vision is a little overrated on flagship sets. Hardware beats software everytime. I can assure you that Samsung owners who watch regular HDR10, are plenty satisfied. Dolby Vision doesn't add more zones, increase color gamut or brightness etc. You would have to have Dolby Vision side by side with 1 of these sets to actually see any difference. and in some cases, the HDR10 on a Samsung may actually look better. Cnet compared Dolby VIsion on a Vizio PQ last year to HDR10 on the Samsung Q9FN and they preffered the image on the Q9FN. and Yes the Vizio PQ is a pretty comparable set with 2000+nits and quantum dots and decent black levels..

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I am super excited as I recently received my TV! The OCB recognized my Apple TV in the cabinet but the Samsung remote would not control it with out the cabinet door open (infrared). I read today that deleting the Universal Remote for the Apple TV will allow it to work over HDMI-CEC and how beautifully it works now!

I have been playing with some initial recommended picture settings for the MOVIE picture mode from Flatpanelshd, AVForums, Digitaltrends and Rtings. I may eventually have the TV professionally calibrated.

Is there a consensus for a particular "Picture Mode" when watching sports or when watching news, game shows, or sitcoms or do you MOVIE picture mode for all your viewing?'
Because of review sites, people have this notion that Movie mode is the best. It's just the most accurate. That doesn't make it the best. Accurate normally means warmer whites, less brightness, and a generally less sharp picture. The best mode is the one you enjoy the most. Play around with your settings until you find something you like.
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Because of review sites, people have this notion that Movie mode is the best. It's just the most accurate. That doesn't make it the best. Accurate normally means warmer whites, less brightness, and a generally less sharp picture. The best mode is the one you enjoy the most. Play around with your settings until you find something you like.

I agree with this to a point. I can think of several people who have asked my help to get their television properly sorted only to find that they were initially offput by the result. On the flip side though many people come to prefer the more accurate settings after spending some time acclimating to it, but I still know at least 2 people that hands down prefer having bluer whites and wildly inaccurate colors.



I personally prefer having better accuracy, but I also target an overall higher luminance than is typical for SDR. Different strokes for different folks.

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U will loose a lot of sound options. Dolby atmos will not pass through until/if eARC is introduced. Until then definately connect direct to receiver not the OCB
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Have a week old 65 inch Q90R that suddenly stopped powering on Tuesday. Repair center came out today, swapped out the One Connect cable and we were back in business. The problem is, I didnt touch the One Connect cable from when I set it up a week ago.. it just "broke". The tech said they are really fragile and to be really careful with it. Yikes.
Have others taken extreme precaution with this fiber optic cable? Have folks been able to successfully run it through a wall without damage? It's got me a little paranoid now.
Our AV guys had no issue. They were careful with it. Our old mount had several wires pulled thru the original whole made - coax, 3 hdmi, optical and a pull wire. Back then, it was a bit "tight" with all those wires but a breeze with OCB cable. They just went slow with it going up inside the wall...
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I'm thinking of up grading my beloved Pioneer Elite 60" Plasma it's one of the last sets made and every body loves the picture. I have a large fairly dark room and set about 17 ' from the set so I'm thinking of a 82" Q90R or a Q900RB. I guess my question is it worth it and which would be better the 4K or 8K. I'm up in the years so this could possibly be my last set.
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I have read here that the OCB cable is not in-wall rated. Did anyone use a work around for getting the cable in the wall? My thinking is there must be some product that provides a plastic channel in the wall from point A to point B. Or did folks just thread the cable into the wall as if it were in-wall rated? What concerns might there be for the latter use?
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I have read here that the OCB cable is not in-wall rated. Did anyone use a work around for getting the cable in the wall? My thinking is there must be some product that provides a plastic channel in the wall from point A to point B. Or did folks just thread the cable into the wall as if it were in-wall rated? What concerns might there be for the latter use?

The concern of course is fire. Some of us do it anyway. I have mine running through a conduit that was installed many years ago but I'm sure many people just fish it through the wall cavity itself.
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Dolby Vision is a little overrated on flagship sets. Hardware beats software everytime. I can assure you that Samsung owners who watch regular HDR10, are plenty satisfied. Dolby Vision doesn't add more zones, increase color gamut or brightness etc. You would have to have Dolby Vision side by side with 1 of these sets to actually see any difference. and in some cases, the HDR10 on a Samsung may actually look better. Cnet compared Dolby VIsion on a Vizio PQ last year to HDR10 on the Samsung Q9FN and they preffered the image on the Q9FN. and Yes the Vizio PQ is a pretty comparable set with 2000+nits and quantum dots and decent black levels..
I agree.

It’s definitely more important on the lower brightness sets. I prefer the HDR10 presentation on my Q90 compared to the Dolby Vision presentation on any of my former sets...A1E, 900F, Z9F and C8. You’re right though, it likely has more to do with the hardware on each of those sets than DV vs HDR10.
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Because of review sites, people have this notion that Movie mode is the best. It's just the most accurate. That doesn't make it the best. Accurate normally means warmer whites, less brightness, and a generally less sharp picture. The best mode is the one you enjoy the most. Play around with your settings until you find something you like.
Many thanks for the comments - I have gone with Standard for my bright living room for sports and regular TV shows.
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I'm thinking of up grading my beloved Pioneer Elite 60" Plasma it's one of the last sets made and every body loves the picture. I have a large fairly dark room and set about 17 ' from the set so I'm thinking of a 82" Q90R or a Q900RB. I guess my question is it worth it and which would be better the 4K or 8K. I'm up in the years so this could possibly be my last set.

Q90 has the better overall picture. I wouldn't even think twice.
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I'm thinking of up grading my beloved Pioneer Elite 60" Plasma it's one of the last sets made and every body loves the picture. I have a large fairly dark room and set about 17 ' from the set so I'm thinking of a 82" Q90R or a Q900RB. I guess my question is it worth it and which would be better the 4K or 8K. I'm up in the years so this could possibly be my last set.
As far back as you sit you really should consider a projector. If an FP won't work in your room the 82Q90 would be an excellent choice. The only issue I've encountered is HDR blooming into scope bars. If a bright object is right next to the bars they'll bleed into same. But, other than that, the Q90 is very hard to beat in screen sizes over 77".

The good news is I've noticed no bleeding with non-HDR images.
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