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Giving me good feels, friend! On test pattern 4 with the grid, how is the blooming on those white lines if local dimming was on? If not, when you watch some dark content, would you mind a quick mention on that? Thanks!
I just checked out the Light Bleed and Blooming Test on youtube.

I see very little blooming. If you watch when the cars come around the corner at 0:04 and 1:05, I never lost separation of headlights. Between the headlights was clear as the cars enter the turn and blurs a bit in the middle of the turn, then clears and defines as the cars exit the turn.

I don't see any blooming when looking at the emergency vehicle.
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This is pretty lame. Why would they release a Dolby Atmos soundbar with no Dolby Atmos sound coming from their TVs? Clearly they meant for soundbars to be used with their TVs.
Maybe I am the glass-half-full type, but I see that as just more evidence that they have every intention of supporting eARC, and are just waiting for the HDMI LA certification to be completed so that support can be announced.
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Maybe I am the glass-half-full type, but I see that as just more evidence that they have every intention of supporting eARC, and are just waiting for the HDMI LA certification to be completed so that support can be announced.
One would hope but they've done dumber (or eviler) things so, well, anyone who wants this feature should just hold off for now.
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I am assuming they meant what tests do you run.

For myself for example, i have one on order, the first thing i want to do is run tests to make sure i dont have a bad panel.

Two concerning points for me at least is DSE and Banding. If i can test those right way, maybe even while the white glove delivery guys are there...then i can test quickly to determine if i want to keep the panel or not.
I hear what you are saying, that is great for you but for the average user, I would not recommend this at all...... Hunting for the perfect TV can be a spiral into a rabbit hole of returns and frustration. I have never seen a panel in person that is perfect myself......
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I hear what you are saying, that is great for you but for the average user, I would not recommend this at all...... Hunting for the perfect TV can be a spiral into a rabbit hole of returns and frustration. I have never seen a panel in person that is perfect myself......
The way I see it, the Q90 is Samsung's Premium TV(Not 8K). So I want to put my money toward the best.
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I just checked out the Light Bleed and Blooming Test on youtube.

I see very little blooming. If you watch when the cars come around the corner at 0:04 and 1:05, I never lost separation of headlights. Between the headlights was clear as the cars enter the turn and blurs a bit in the middle of the turn, then clears and defines as the cars exit the turn.

I don't see any blooming when looking at the emergency vehicle.

Cheers to you! Looks like this is the TV for me. I'll be pulling the trigger sometime next week. I think I finally stopped lusting for OLED blacks. Just too risky for my use type, and I won't put it in my budget to replace the TV every 2 years. Thank you for your impressions!
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I hear what you are saying, that is great for you but for the average user, I would not recommend this at all...... Hunting for the perfect TV can be a spiral into a rabbit hole of returns and frustration. I have never seen a panel in person that is perfect myself......

Looking for issues can be a disappointment for sure.

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I do have a PS4. I’m not familiar with the hack you are referring to. However the set did detect the PS4. When I plugged it in, I received a message that a game console is detected. The PS4 now shows right next to the Netflix, Hulu apps on the main TV UI.
Sony doesn't do ALLM with the PS4 or PS4 Pro, they instead send an HDR flag that is recognized by Sony TVs and so when a game is being played the Sony TV will automatically switch into game mode.

LG figured out what this flag was and now they also detect game playback (not just the presence of the console). Not sure if Samsung is also doing this.

Would be easy to test. Have your TV set to something other than game mode and then start playing a game and see if it switches to game mode automatically.

I can confirm my 2017 Q6 in the gaming room auto switches to game mode and hdr game mode.
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Checkout works now for the 82"
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Just order the 82 tbd...
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Back on Page 18 Mikejl says his replacement ARC is working?

Also, I notice if you go to here samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/2019-qled-tv-q90r-series and browse to "See More Specs" it has . . . Audio Return Channel Support (via HDMI port)Yes
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me here.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me here.
Oh nothing for you. I was referring to the other guys above eluding that didn't you confirm ARC is working? But now I have been reading up more and get the difference between ARC and eARC. I am assuming you just got basic ARC working right and we are still trying to confirm if eARC is coming to the TV?



I did however get really bored at work yesterday and opened a dumb Samsung Support chat and asked a random tech about it. He asked if I was referring to HDMI ARC and I explained eARC is different. Then 10 mins later he came back with "I've checked in my resources and see that the newer eARC (enhanced) port will be available for the TV that you're referring to." But who the hell knows how reliable that is. It was just a random support tech that probably is low level.
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Anyone with the Q90 2019 did Samsung really improved on blooming or is it still visible when you'd watch a movie in the night for example and have the subtitles on? Anyone know?
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Anyone with the Q90 2019 did Samsung really improved on blooming or is it still visible when you'd watch a movie in the night for example and have the subtitles on? Anyone know?
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I saw your post, but the blooming on subtitles is more annoying than just on moving objects. Therefore the specific question. does the subtitles glow on the new Q90 (just like the older models)? Or actually not so.
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I saw your post, but the blooming on subtitles is more annoying than just on moving objects. Therefore the specific question. does the subtitles glow on the new Q90 (just like the older models)? Or actually not so.
I do not notice any glowing on subtitles, but I may just be sensitive to it. Also, I have not owned any of the older Q models, so I don't have anything to compare it to.
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Sooooooooo, I decided just for the hell of it to purchase the 82" Q90R. What pushed me to make a spontaneous purchase is that unbelievable discount through my 'Perks at Work' via my Company plus the great 'eBates' cash back. Unfortunately it isn't scheduled to ship until March 29th from Samsung. That gives me enough time to change my mind barring something horrible revealed over the next couple of weeks :-). I'm excited because I'm hoping it resolves a couple of negatives on my 75" Q9FN such as the loss of details on the blacks. Wide angles are a bonus, but weren't critical to me since I watch within a 20 degree viewing angle 99.9% of the time at about 10-11' away. I'm hoping that on lower quality sources like 720P via Youtube TV that the upscaling and motion are better, though I suspect that part of the problem isn't the TV, its YoutubeTV (which as a side note, I still highly recommend if it has the channels you like). I haven't really gamed at all on my Q9FN, but I may give it a whirl on the Q90r. It just that I like gaming more on a Gsync 1440P 32" widescreen Asus monitor since you are sitting with a keyboard and mouse 1-2 feet from the screen :-).

Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed that I get a good panel. We shall see. I didn't get the Q900r because I just don't think for the money any advantage it may have are worth the per dollar cost increase.
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I am assuming they meant what tests do you run.

For myself for example, i have one on order, the first thing i want to do is run tests to make sure i dont have a bad panel.

Two concerning points for me at least is DSE and Banding. If i can test those right way, maybe even while the white glove delivery guys are there...then i can test quickly to determine if i want to keep the panel or not.
I hear what you are saying, that is great for you but for the average user, I would not recommend this at all...... Hunting for the perfect TV can be a spiral into a rabbit hole of returns and frustration. I have never seen a panel in person that is perfect myself......
Couldn't agree more. Vicious cycle of dissatisfaction and frustration. It’s a TV. Look for flaws and you’ll find them and then obsess about them.
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So the 82 version is available but no luck on the 75 inch yet? Ugh. I really would like to spend less on the 75 inch.
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To any new owners, I'm curious to see how the 90R handles Netflix 2:1 letterbox bars, as used in Stranger Things and The Crown. This is where the worst blooming and bleed occurs on the Q9FN.
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So the 82 version is available but no luck on the 75 inch yet? Ugh. I really would like to spend less on the 75 inch.
I just checked by going to Shop Samsung and it lets me add the 75" to my cart.
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I saw your post, but the blooming on subtitles is more annoying than just on moving objects. Therefore the specific question. does the subtitles glow on the new Q90 (just like the older models)? Or actually not so.
I'm watching "Into the Badlands" on Netflix right now and I use subtitles regularly. The yellow subtitles I'm looking at are crisp and defined. No glowing. I don't see any blooming at all. To me they look really good. Especially compared to my UN65F8000.

I took a couple of pictures and the camera added blooming in the subtitles. So I won't be uploading them.
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I'm watching "Into the Badlands" on Netflix right now and I use subtitles regularly. The yellow subtitles I'm looking at are crisp and defined. No glowing. I don't see any blooming at all. To me they look really good. Especially compared to my UN65F8000.



I took a couple of pictures and the camera added blooming in the subtitles. So I won't be uploading them.
Send the pictures that are not representative of what you see in person to quantum apotheosis, he would find those useful for his reviews.
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To any new owners, I'm curious to see how the 90R handles Netflix 2:1 letterbox bars, as used in Stranger Things and The Crown. This is where the worst blooming and bleed occurs on the Q9FN.
I decided to check this out for ya. I put on S1:E1 of Stranger Things, and it looks good to me. No obvious bleeding, but my room is really bright right now.

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Sooooooooo, I decided just for the hell of it to purchase the 82" Q90R. What pushed me to make a spontaneous purchase is that unbelievable discount through my 'Perks at Work' via my Company plus the great 'eBates' cash back. Unfortunately it isn't scheduled to ship until March 29th from Samsung. That gives me enough time to change my mind barring something horrible revealed over the next couple of weeks :-). I'm excited because I'm hoping it resolves a couple of negatives on my 75" Q9FN such as the loss of details on the blacks. Wide angles are a bonus, but weren't critical to me since I watch within a 20 degree viewing angle 99.9% of the time at about 10-11' away. I'm hoping that on lower quality sources like 720P via Youtube TV that the upscaling and motion are better, though I suspect that part of the problem isn't the TV, its YoutubeTV (which as a side note, I still highly recommend if it has the channels you like). I haven't really gamed at all on my Q9FN, but I may give it a whirl on the Q90r. It just that I like gaming more on a Gsync 1440P 32" widescreen Asus monitor since you are sitting with a keyboard and mouse 1-2 feet from the screen :-).

Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed that I get a good panel. We shall see. I didn't get the Q900r because I just don't think for the money any advantage it may have are worth the per dollar cost increase.
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I decided to check this out for ya. I put on S1:E1 of Stranger Things, and it looks good to me. No obvious bleeding, but my room is really bright right now.

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Stranger things season 1 is only SDR. Hdr movies and shows have brighter subtitles so they will bloom more.

My recommendation for anyone that uses subtitles is to get the Panasonic Ub820 which has brightness control over the subtitles and you can move the subtitles around also.
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Stranger things season 1 is only SDR. Hdr movies and shows have brighter subtitles so they will bloom more.



My recommendation for anyone that uses subtitles is to get the Panasonic Ub820 which has brightness control over the subtitles and you can move the subtitles around also.
Ah, right, forgot S1 wasn't in HDR.
Just tried S2:E1 with subtitles on, and it looks very good. Pics added some glow that wasn't there to the naked eye and added more saturation then what is there to the naked eye as well. Not sure it's worth uploading.

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