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Having a weird issue. I have the set running via one hdmi cable and utilizing arc to my external receiver.

For some reason, the tv will often default to pcm vs Dolby digital +. I was using the built in HBO go app and noticed it was set to this.

This has happened a few times and not sure what I need to do to make it stick or default to a better output when it's available.

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I heard from somebody that he had spoken to Samsung (Korea) that Samsung Q90R TV support 48 Gbit bandwidth capacity which means HDMI 2.1 and should support 4K 10-bit 120Hz 4:4:4. You think that is BS? Has anyone actually tested how much bandwidth capacity Q90R have?
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Here's some interesting tidbits that probably nobody knows.

SAMSUNG removed the HDR+ mode on 2019 sets but seems to have secretly disguised it in movie mode. When you turn on the dimming to high with contrast enhance OFF, the former hdr+ is now activated. Turning the backlight to 50 will actually darken the picture and give a weird effect to the screen. Lowering the backlight to 30 will brighten the image and lower the weird effect. Lowering under 30 the picture will continue to darken the picture. Turning contrast enhancer to low will deactivate this weird hdr+ effect and brighten the image back to normal. Even the cal day/night modes act the same way. (this is for SDR content only).

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I turned on HDR+ mode in the service menu. But the hdr+ mode does not act like the above mode or like it has in previous years. It's basically identical to standard mode now with slightly different set points and dimming algorithms. (by turning this mode back on which Samsung deactivated , the HDR+ option is in the settings menu under contrast enhancer like the 2018 tvs).


Edit: I should clarify. With HDR content, hdr+ is just like standard mode except it has less black crush baked into the presets,making it ever so slightly brighter.
What weird effect do you speak of? As I leave my backlight on 50, contrast 42, local dimming high & CE off, I've noticed no weird effect. Now If I put CE on low, I notice that bright highlights get clipped much easier, even with contrast at 42.

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Can you get HDR+ to work with Q90R and a PC? If so, please explain how to setup.
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What weird effect do you speak of? As I leave my backlight on 50, contrast 42, local dimming high & CE off, I've noticed no weird effect. Now If I put CE on low, I notice that bright highlights get clipped much easier, even with contrast at 42.

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Try putting the contrast at 50 and trying it. This is with movie mode and SDR correct?

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Can you get HDR+ to work with Q90R and a PC? If so, please explain how to setup.
I don't work with PCs so I have zero clue about that.

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Try putting the contrast at 50 and trying it. This is with movie mode and SDR correct?

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Sorry I thought you were talking about HDR, not sdr. I keep sdr backlight to 22.

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Considering this TV. Mounting on a wall with no entertainment center below. How do I hide the one connect box, especially if I wanted to do a no gap wall mount?
One connect box has its pros and cons..... Buy an entertainment center for below, put it in the basement if you have one or on the otherside of the wall in another room, or cut a big hole and put it in the wall......

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Does the Q90 support Atmos through any of the built in apps? I didn't think Samsung did but someone on another forum is saying that Samsung has Atmos through Vudu on the built in app.

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[QUOTE=yatesd;58806982]I like a slightly darker screen since I use minimal lighting and watch most of TV in the evenings (and find plenty bright for daytime). I leave "Intelligent Mode" on and it must work well because it has never caused a noticeable concern.

I have set Adaptive Brightness, which seems to work well in brightening/dimming the screen in response to room ambient light levels. Except for one curious "quirk" - when I change input sources (doesn't matter from what to what), the new source will be very, very dark (unwatchable). In order to restore normalcy I have to turn off Adaptive Brightness then turn it on again, all is then well until I change sources again. This does not happen when Adaptive Brightness is turned off. I may just live with this, or I may turn it off and instead turn the backlight level up and down manually with the sun.

I guess this together with the CEC issue of not automatically turning on the receiver with the TV (it does turn it off) are just whimsical little "features" left for us to hunt by the Samsung engineers. But will they fix them when we find them?!
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I like a slightly darker screen since I use minimal lighting and watch most of TV in the evenings (and find plenty bright for daytime). I leave "Intelligent Mode" on and it must work well because it has never caused a noticeable concern.

I have set Adaptive Brightness, which seems to work well in brightening/dimming the screen in response to room ambient light levels. Except for one curious "quirk" - when I change input sources (doesn't matter from what to what), the new source will be very, very dark (unwatchable). In order to restore normalcy I have to turn off Adaptive Brightness then turn it on again, all is then well until I change sources again. This does not happen when Adaptive Brightness is turned off. I may just live with this, or I may turn it off and instead turn the backlight level up and down manually with the sun.

I guess this together with the CEC issue of not automatically turning on the receiver with the TV (it does turn it off) are just whimsical little "features" left for us to hunt by the Samsung engineers. But will they fix them when we find them?!
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I am not having either of those issues. I did have the issue with CEC originally but a setting changed resolved it(sorry don't remember what fixed it...although others had the same challenges). I have an Onkyo RZ830

Also, on the other issue, did you try toggling the "settings by source"?
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Two things.

One - I didn't put much weight on the wide angle viewing tech when choosing the Q90R, but now I see the glaring weakness in all my other sets. I don't think I'll want to buy a set without the wide angle layer now, especially a large set. It just makes the contrast more unifrom from edge to edge, even when you aren't off axis.

Two - Watched The Morning Show on Apple TV+. Wow does that show look amazing on this set. It's almost as great as the store demo loops. Anyone who thinks this Set doesn't have the full 4K resolution need only to watch some of Apple's new high-bitrate content to see just how sharp the Q90R is.
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Anyone know any easier way to fix the elevated blacks other than a full picture reset? I have them again and don't feel like resetting the whole tv again.
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Anyone know any easier way to fix the elevated blacks other than a full picture reset? I have them again and don't feel like resetting the whole tv again.

I find myself having to do it like every 2 days. No idea what's going on.

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Anyone know any easier way to fix the elevated blacks other than a full picture reset? I have them again and don't feel like resetting the whole tv again.
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I find myself having to do it like every 2 days. No idea what's going on.
I’ve never witnessed this elevated blacks issue. Actually, my set has been near flawless since day 1. I didn’t install the most recent firmware update though. I don’t think I will install another update unless it includes eARC. I’m satisfied with everything now and it would be a shame to break something with an update.
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I’ve never witnessed this elevated blacks issue. Actually, my set has been near flawless since day 1. I didn’t install the most recent firmware update though. I don’t think I will install another update unless it includes eARC. I’m satisfied with everything now and it would be a shame to break something with an update.
I don't have this problem even if I have done all the firmware updates (1325.1 now). The picture is so great now that I have found my settings.
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I don't have this problem even if I have done all the firmware updates (1325.1 now). The picture is so great now that I have found my settings.

Where do you live and when did you get that update? What is new with that update?
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Does the Q90 support Atmos through any of the built in apps? I didn't think Samsung did but someone on another forum is saying that Samsung has Atmos through Vudu on the built in app.
My recollection, which could be faulty because I use my Apple 4K to access Netflix with Dolby Atmos, is that the latest Samsungs support Netflix Atmos. The Netflix Q & A has a listing of all the devices which support Atmos on Netflix.

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I haven’t seen this mentioned here yet. Is anyone else here who is using the TVs Disney+ app only getting stereo sound?
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The Star Wars movies on Disney+ look incredible on this TV.

ohyeah32, I am getting Dolby Digital. I can't remember if it is through ARC, or if I hooked up an optical cable, though. I think it is ARC.
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Disney + is looking incredible on my 82 inch Q90R. However, I am getting stereo sound on my Sonos Playbar 5.1 setup.
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The Star Wars movies on Disney+ look incredible on this TV.

ohyeah32, I am getting Dolby Digital. I can't remember if it is through ARC, or if I hooked up an optical cable, though. I think it is ARC.
I’m using the optical out on mine, never tried using ARC. All apps I use (Netflix, Hulu, Prime, Vudu, AppleTV+) all output 5.1 via the TVs optical out. Odd that this new Disney+ app only outputs 2.0 via optical.
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The Star Wars movies on Disney+ look incredible on this TV.

ohyeah32, I am getting Dolby Digital. I can't remember if it is through ARC, or if I hooked up an optical cable, though. I think it is ARC.
I&#226;€&#x2122;&#xfe0f;m using the optical out on mine, never tried using ARC. All apps I use (Netflix, Hulu, Prime, Vudu, AppleTV+) all output 5.1 via the TVs optical out. Odd that this new Disney+ app only outputs 2.0 via optical.
It looks like the issue is with the native tv app. Other people with other brands/models including, LG and Sony are having issues as well with the native app. If you use a streaming device like Apple TV or Nvidia Shield and download the app, you get 5.1 DD. I confirmed this with the nvidia shield. I am sure a firmware update will fix this soon.
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Hi, I just scheduled ChadB the magician to come calibrate my Q90R 82 inch TV and I can’t be more excited.

On another note, I currently have firmware version 1066 on my tv. I have not updated to the latest firmware yet. I keep hearing there is an elevated blacks issue. Is it safe to update to latest firmware?

Also my tv came with only the black smart remote controller. I see some YouTube videos where some TVs come with an aluminum brush smart controller and a larger programming controller. Is this only for European versions?
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Disney + is looking incredible on my 82 inch Q90R. However, I am getting stereo sound on my Sonos Playbar 5.1 setup.
I have a Q80R and I am getting a 2.0 DD signal. Don't know if that's model dependent but I think it's with the app itself.
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No one has any info if this firmware has earc yet?
After seeing so much conflicting info out there... I decided to try my own luck at chatting with Samsung Care just to see what they'd say and as of today:

Hey Wasim! I just purchased your Q80 Series QLED TV (QN65Q80RAFXZA) and I realize that it does not currently support eARC, but I would like to know if that functionality is coming via firmware update. I have read numerous places saying that it is, but would like to know conclusively. Thank you!

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I am sorry to inform you that the eARC will not come from the firmware update on the TV.
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OK, thank you. I'd like to take advantage of it, but I don't have a need for a soundbar, just the TV.

Hopefully he was just mistaken.... (And maybe the Q90R is getting it but not the Q80R? But I'd seen some people saying they'd talked to support and all were getting it.)
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According to this post, a journalist who has a direct line to Samsung said eArc is coming to all 2019 QLEDS.

I can't post links yet because I just registered. But it's post #258 in the q90r soundbar thread in the sound bars forum here.
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No offense to anyone that thinks a soundbar is a valid piece of home theater gear but damn... that's a moronic method to obtain 3D audio. Without real height speakers and full bandwidth, why even bother. I have already ruled out the current slate of Samsung's for purchase anyways so without real earc support I guess I can just put these to rest. oh well... I suppose LG is the only game in town now.
I guess I'm a moron because the q90 soundbar is atmos and the way the sound fully bounces around is pretty neat.
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No offense to anyone that thinks a soundbar is a valid piece of home theater gear but damn... that's a moronic method to obtain 3D audio. Without real height speakers and full bandwidth, why even bother. I have already ruled out the current slate of Samsung's for purchase anyways so without real earc support I guess I can just put these to rest. oh well... I suppose LG is the only game in town now.
Im sorry, but for streaming apps, Dolby Digital Plus [email protected] hz is the only 4k content available right now, which HDMI/ARC2.0b supports. Outside of gaming, there is no uncomporessed 4k 120hz content available. Also, it appears all Samsung QLED tv's 2019 model will get ARC 2.1 firmware soon. So Im not sure what youre giving up not buying the Samsung.
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No offense to anyone that thinks a soundbar is a valid piece of home theater gear but damn... that's a moronic method to obtain 3D audio. Without real height speakers and full bandwidth, why even bother. I have already ruled out the current slate of Samsung's for purchase anyways so without real earc support I guess I can just put these to rest. oh well... I suppose LG is the only game in town now.
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define soon. 6 months? Two years?.. ive had enough of the talk of this mysterious firmware that has never come.
Everything Ive read is end of year or 1st quarter next year. Im not attacking your POV I guess Im projecting my own thought of if theres no content anytime soon Im not worrying about it.

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