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I agree, the shadowing is awful. Has Samsung Support suggested a treat?
I received an email from samsung for replacing the full LCD panel but even the repairman says he does not understand why he does not replace the tv , is brand new.
I will contact the seller again.
Probably they do not have any more stock TV because of the black Fridays
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I just ordered the 82" Q80R. Earlier this week, I ordered a refurbished Sony 900f, but quickly had buyer's remorse upon hearing of all the DV issues with Apple TV and the limited number of HDMI inputs - only two offer HDR. Also, I wasn't thrilled about unboxing a TV that might have issues out of the box and I'd always be looking for something to go wrong.

I'm hoping Costco will sell me a Square Trade warranty, even if purchased from eBay. I've heard you have to go in-store to purchase. If anyone has insight, I'd appreciate it.

Super excited to get my set. Going to schedule Best Buy to wall mount. It will be replacing the Samsung 75" JU7100, which was released in 2015.

I'd welcome any tips, suggestions on getting the most from the Q80.
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I just ordered the 82" Q80R. Earlier this week, I ordered a refurbished Sony 900f, but quickly had buyer's remorse upon hearing of all the DV issues with Apple TV and the limited number of HDMI inputs - only two offer HDR. Also, I wasn't thrilled about unboxing a TV that might have issues out of the box and I'd always be looking for something to go wrong.

I'm hoping Costco will sell me a Square Trade warranty, even if purchased from eBay. I've heard you have to go in-store to purchase. If anyone has insight, I'd appreciate it.

Super excited to get my set. Going to schedule Best Buy to wall mount. It will be replacing the Samsung 75" JU7100, which was released in 2015.

I'd welcome any tips, suggestions on getting the most from the Q80.
I don’t think Costco sells the ST warranties independently but not 100% sure. You can always direct buy at their website. I’ve claimed a TV under ST and now Asurian via DirecTV coverage program. With ST they were very good on replacing the TV with better than what I had but only a TV. Asurian offered one current model TV 5” larger but said it “could” be a refurb. I had doubt but the awful reviews really scared me. It was a low end 2019 Samsung of 75” vs my Samsung 70” KU6300. So technically a decent choice but I wasn’t liking going into a TV with bad reviews. I called and the agent offered me a buyout. The TV they offered Was a grand on Amazon and she offered a check for 986. I took that and shopped and got the Q80R 65”.
Bottom line is I’d consider Asurian. I would have taken a reasonable cash buy out from ST if I could have. YMMV, it could be because I’m getting it via my DirecTV contract and not Asurian. I don’t know. Just know what just happened.
BTW I still love ST they’ve saved my a$$ more than once.

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Returned my Sony OLED for a Samsung Q80

So.... I did a ton of research to upgrade my TV and decided to buy a 65" Sony A8G OLED.

I had it installed, mounted etc.
The picture was absolutely fantastic, but a few things just didn't sit well with me.

#1- The brightness. This TV just didn't get very bright, even after calibration, I just didn't like how dark it was. I know this is an issue with OLEDs. I have a decently bright room, with 7 windows, and the sun rises into those windows and stays that way for most of the day. The reflections were pretty noticeable, and even in vivid mode it seemed dark.

#2- With almost all 4k coming in widescreen with black bars, the images I was watching were just too small for my liking. It looked beautiful don't get me wrong, but it was smaller than I wanted, and was not as bright as I desired. This made me think that getting a bigger screen would help combat the black bars.

These two things were essentially deal breakers for, and for the price of the TV, I wanted to be a bit happier with my purchase.

I went to Best Buy and explained all of my reasons, and the salesman directed me to the Samsung Q80 in the 75" version. He convinced me to buy it, based on my concerns.

My big question is, how steep of a drop off is this TV from a 65" Sony Ag8 OLED? I know the picture quality will take a hit, but how big of an decrease am I looking at? Is it worth gaining a bigger, brighter TV, with less picture quality? Is the few hundred extra dollars for the 75"Q80 worth it? How's the motion difference? I will be 100% streaming on this TV with some minor Xbox games occasionally.

I really don't want to get this Samsung Q80R delivered and set up, only to decide I missed the picture quality of the Sony. It's being delivered in a week, so I have some time to make a decision.

Any advice or insight would be appreciated.
Just put up my 75" Q80 yesterday. So no help on the settings, but had to respond to your post, because your screen name made me laugh.
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Returned my Sony OLED for a Samsung Q80

So.... I did a ton of research to upgrade my TV and decided to buy a 65" Sony A8G OLED.

I had it installed, mounted etc.
The picture was absolutely fantastic, but a few things just didn't sit well with me.

#1- The brightness. This TV just didn't get very bright, even after calibration, I just didn't like how dark it was. I know this is an issue with OLEDs. I have a decently bright room, with 7 windows, and the sun rises into those windows and stays that way for most of the day. The reflections were pretty noticeable, and even in vivid mode it seemed dark.

#2- With almost all 4k coming in widescreen with black bars, the images I was watching were just too small for my liking. It looked beautiful don't get me wrong, but it was smaller than I wanted, and was not as bright as I desired. This made me think that getting a bigger screen would help combat the black bars.

These two things were essentially deal breakers for, and for the price of the TV, I wanted to be a bit happier with my purchase.

I went to Best Buy and explained all of my reasons, and the salesman directed me to the Samsung Q80 in the 75" version. He convinced me to buy it, based on my concerns.

My big question is, how steep of a drop off is this TV from a 65" Sony Ag8 OLED? I know the picture quality will take a hit, but how big of an decrease am I looking at? Is it worth gaining a bigger, brighter TV, with less picture quality? Is the few hundred extra dollars for the 75"Q80 worth it? How's the motion difference? I will be 100% streaming on this TV with some minor Xbox games occasionally.

I really don't want to get this Samsung Q80R delivered and set up, only to decide I missed the picture quality of the Sony. It's being delivered in a week, so I have some time to make a decision.

Any advice or insight would be appreciated.
Well, I've got the LG c8 65 and the c8 77 as well as the Q80.
Now, they are all great. I wouldn't say the Q80 is as good as the OLED pq wise BUT it's also now all that far behind. The only really gripe I have with the Q80 is the smearing with fast moving picture (eg video games) that you don't get with the OLED... But it's a VA panel, so it's just the way it is, they ALL do the same thing.
It's WAY brighter, HDR looks stunning, the SDE is noticeable if you specifically look for it at times but the price is great vs the 77 OLED lol.

I don't think you will be disappointed at all. I'm a picky guy when it comes to video and I took back my Sony 950 x 75" because of horrific blooming (the Q80 does have it a bit but it's quite decent IMO) I'd use the 77 OLED in my living room and the Q80 in the basement beside my theater for video games. I find myself goijg to the basement to watch movies in HDR because it's so good!
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How good is this TV for watching sports on cable? I’d really like to save the $300 over the Sony 950g.
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Use a small flashlight, like the flashlight from your phone, and point it at the screen. Does the light bounce back fairly straight and is still mostly white? That's the protective film. Does the light spread out and seem more brown, with a rainbow shimmer effect on the outside edges of the light? That's the anti-glare and wide angle dispersion.

Yeah, no film on this set. Odd that they would put it on every size but the 82", go figure.


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I just ordered the 82" Q80R. Earlier this week, I ordered a refurbished Sony 900f, but quickly had buyer's remorse upon hearing of all the DV issues with Apple TV and the limited number of HDMI inputs - only two offer HDR. Also, I wasn't thrilled about unboxing a TV that might have issues out of the box and I'd always be looking for something to go wrong.

You do realize the Q80R, or any Samsung for that matter, doesn't support DV at all right? HDR10+ is Samsung's horse
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Yeah, no film on this set. Odd that they would put it on every size but the 82", go figure.





You do realize the Q80R, or any Samsung for that matter, doesn't support DV at all right? HDR10+ is Samsung's horse
Yes, just figured I'd be happier with a good HDR implementation that works with ATV, rather than being forced into a poor DV experience on the 900f. The only workaround on that particular set is to use a streaming player that doesn't support DV, which would mean no ATV. When you consider my soundbar takes 1 of the 2 ports that support HDR, that would render my ATV less useful. The Q80R lets me use the ATV, Shield, Xbox and enjoy HDR on all of them. Without a direct comparison to DV, I'm certain the set will wow my family.
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Just updated my Q80R to firmware version 1335.0 via the Software Update option in the TV settings. Have not found anything new yet. The Samsung Support page for the Q80R series does not show details about firmware updates or a download firmware option. I saw in the Q90R support page that there was a 1335.0 update and so I assumed (as in the past) that the same would be available for the Q80R. No details on what's new and improved with this release as the page only shows the same old canned details for all the firmware releases. Maybe someone else can shine a light on what they see as new or improved. The firmware release number did not go up by much, so I doubt there's anything like eARC support included with this update.

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Just updated my Q80R to firmware version 1335.0 via the Software Update option in the TV settings. Have not found anything new yet. The Samsung Support page for the Q80R series does not show details about firmware updates or a download firmware option. I saw in the Q90R support page that there was a 1335.0 update and so I assumed (as in the past) that the same would be available for the Q80R. No details on what's new and improved with this release as the page only shows the same old canned details for all the firmware releases. Maybe someone else can shine a light on what they see as new or improved. The firmware release number did not go up by much, so I doubt there's anything like eARC support included with this update.
Would be interested to hear from anyone else who has updated to this F/W. Any new issues? Any benefits? Any loss of custom picture settings? Have a small niggle with TV telling me my LAN cable is unplugged every now and then (not too often) even though it isn't and I'm streaming a 4k source at the time...want to update to latest F/W but don't want to introduce any new problems...
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I have been on 1335 for weeks. No positive or negative that I have witnessed. Picture looks the same and settings were retained.
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Would be interested to hear from anyone else who has updated to this F/W. Any new issues? Any benefits? Any loss of custom picture settings? Have a small niggle with TV telling me my LAN cable is unplugged every now and then (not too often) even though it isn't and I'm streaming a 4k source at the time...want to update to latest F/W but don't want to introduce any new problems...
Just to be sure, have you swapped out the Ethernet cable? I would. It could be a faulty port on the set. That would be bad, IMHO, as I use wired too. No errors on mine.

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Just to be sure, have you swapped out the Ethernet cable? I would. It could be a faulty port on the set. That would be bad, IMHO, as I use wired too. No errors on mine.

This and could also be the port being plugged in on the other end as well, whether it be a switch or router. Doesn't necessarily have to be the TV port if the cable is fine.
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Just got a deal on the Q80 and was wondering if I will notice a difference from NU 6900 that I bought early last year so I could play Red Dead 2 in 4K. Going to move that TV in the bedroom now and use this one in the living room.
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I feel very proud, I’ve caught up with the forum on Black Friday. Almost a week with the 65Q80R and I’m still loving it and haven’t seen any major issues and just keep playing with settings for perfect nirvana. Next up is Wildgator’s.

I have seen some videos that show off the TV shared but not this one. To me it’s one of the most beautiful looking and works for a daytime demo. It’s not going after showing off the blacks as showing off color. That it does. If you get a neon effect on the colors you have work to do, if your jaw drops and you are visually stunned, you’re closer.


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Red face Q70 vs Q80 for old black and white TV shows and films

Q70 vs Q80 for old black and white TV shows and films (original star trek and westerns)

I did go to Rtings ad my assessment was Q70 would be a better bet. but I may of misunderstood the charts

I never game.
occasionally will watch a new SCi- FI film.

TV will be on 12-16 hours a day mostly with either CNN/FOX.

I have posted this on the OLED but ruled out OLEAD.

I am down to just Samsung.
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1) Is it possible the Samsung TV is not up scaling the content because the Fire TV is always putting out a 4k signal regardless of what app is opened on the Fire TV?   I checked input information on the TV itself, and it's receiving a 4k signal from the Fire TV
2) I did change the output of my Fire TV to 1080p just to test, but that didn't seem to make a difference.


Thoughts and guesses as to why the Fire TV Cube content transmitted in less than 4k (such as 720 or 1080) isn't being up scaled correctly compared to the built in Samsung TV apps? Does the Samsung TV only do up scaling with its built in apps?
The TV is a fixed-pixel display. That means it always displays at 4K, so any material that isn't native 4K must be upscaled by either the playback source or the display itself. All upscaling devices don't have the same quality, and some are better with certain media (such as interlaced) than others.

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I feel very proud, I’ve caught up with the forum on Black Friday. Almost a week with the 65Q80R and I’m still loving it and haven’t seen any major issues and just keep playing with settings for perfect nirvana. Next up is Wildgator’s.

I have seen some videos that show off the TV shared but not this one. To me it’s one of the most beautiful looking and works for a daytime demo. It’s not going after showing off the blacks as showing off color. That it does. If you get a neon effect on the colors you have work to do, if your jaw drops and you are visually stunned, you’re closer.

https://youtu.be/u3APNJYMrLo
I just watched this on my firestick 4k and I would say the colors are suppose to be neon.
Everything in the background looked fine as well.
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Well, I've got the LG c8 65 and the c8 77 as well as the Q80.
Now, they are all great. I wouldn't say the Q80 is as good as the OLED pq wise BUT it's also now all that far behind. The only really gripe I have with the Q80 is the smearing with fast moving picture (eg video games) that you don't get with the OLED... But it's a VA panel, so it's just the way it is, they ALL do the same thing.
It's WAY brighter, HDR looks stunning, the SDE is noticeable if you specifically look for it at times but the price is great vs the 77 OLED lol.

I don't think you will be disappointed at all. I'm a picky guy when it comes to video and I took back my Sony 950 x 75" because of horrific blooming (the Q80 does have it a bit but it's quite decent IMO) I'd use the 77 OLED in my living room and the Q80 in the basement beside my theater for video games. I find myself goijg to the basement to watch movies in HDR because it's so good!
For someone who owns a 65-inch LG B8, which I love and just ordered the Q80, I was thrilled to see your comments regarding the quality vs the OLED. Also had purchased a 900F before cancelling and going with the 80R.
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I feel very proud, I’️ve caught up with the forum on Black Friday. Almost a week with the 65Q80R and I’️m still loving it and haven’️t seen any major issues and just keep playing with settings for perfect nirvana. Next up is Wildgator’️s.

I have seen some videos that show off the TV shared but not this one. To me it’️s one of the most beautiful looking and works for a daytime demo. It’️s not going after showing off the blacks as showing off color. That it does. If you get a neon effect on the colors you have work to do, if your jaw drops and you are visually stunned, you’️re closer.

Yes, that video is a very good video to test the color "pop" on the television.

This is a good one for checking Black in my opinion. https://youtu.be/RvJofD0QjSo
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I just watched this on my firestick 4k and I would say the colors are suppose to be neon.
Everything in the background looked fine as well.
When I say “neon” I mean the colors glow with a haze around them. Like a neon bulb. Nope, that needs more adjusting of the screen. The colors being bright and smooth is correct, it just looks better. The colors pop but shouldn’t bloom. They are some of the most vivid man made colors I’ve seen in a natural setting with the background being totally natural.
I’ll double check whose settings I’m using for the best result an post them in an edit here.

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The settings I like best right now, are from the OP, Bruce. While still not perfect it’s what I use most of the time. The Navajo war dress looks amazing.

Picture Mode: Stamdard
Backlight: 28
Brightness: - 2
Contrast: 38
Sharpness: 8
Color: 25
Tint: 0
Digital Clean View: Auto
AMP: Off
Local Dimming: High
Contrast Enhancer: Off
Color Tone: Standard
Gamma: BT.1886
Color Space: Auto

Simple and beautiful.

Also I take back on now closer inspection. There is some neon but I tried a setting in my trials where it was Neon on every color and looked awful. This is just a touch and I’m sure can be calibrated to perfection. I still am on the hunt but may have it ISF calibrated in the near future. Here’s a screen shot in my not too dark room. Cloudy and all room lights off with most blinds drawn.
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Yes, that video is a very good video to test the color "pop" on the television.

This is a good one for checking Black in my opinion. https://youtu.be/RvJofD0QjSo
I will check that out tonight! Thanks, I’m just overwhelmed how much better this set looks then my failed 70” KU6300 I know 8bit etc, it’s just Wow!
The built in demos from Samsung also show the hell out of the blacks! I’m amazed how black the blacks are in my dark as I can get it, living room. I see you power LEDs in my HT rack! Grrrr. Yes I have them covered with a filter but let some of the light through.

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Just got a deal on the Q80 and was wondering if I will notice a difference from NU 6900 that I bought early last year so I could play Red Dead 2 in 4K. Going to move that TV in the bedroom now and use this one in the living room.
Coming from a lesser Samsung to this, I’m going to say, yes. To me it was dramatic but mine was an 8bit panel so even more dramatic.

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Yes, that video is a very good video to test the color "pop" on the television.

This is a good one for checking Black in my opinion. https://youtu.be/RvJofD0QjSo
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I installed your movie settings and I put my set on a DirecTV 4K channel to add the HDR settings. What happened was they weren’t there but HLG slider and settings were. I found the results “off” to my eye as I tried to do the best to emulate. Another thing I’m wondering is, is it important to mention which panel you have when listing a calibration settings? I have a Samsung FC04, would a setting from one of the AA or such series be a huge difference or are they built to such a close spec, they’d be OK? Also I get panel to panel there’s some play in the look. I’m just wondering out load if it’s the source that’s a major contributor to the issue?
Thank you for your work, too!

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I have been on 1335 for weeks. No positive or negative that I have witnessed. Picture looks the same and settings were retained.
Are you sure you've been on 1335.0 for weeks and not on 1315.5? The Q90R support page has the release date for 1335.0 as November 26 2019. See screenshot below. If you had it for weeks... where did you get it from? I monitor the Samsung Q80R and Q90R USA support pages regularly.
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I have been on 1335 for weeks. No positive or negative that I have witnessed. Picture looks the same and settings were retained.
Are you sure you've been on 1335.0 for weeks and not on 1315.5? The Q90R support page has the release date for 1335.0 as November 26 2019. See screenshot below. If you had it for weeks... where did you get it from? I monitor the Samsung Q80R and Q90R USA support pages regularly.
You could very well be right but I have not seen any notification of firmware update. Normally I would at least get a notification but guess the wife might have dismissed it.

Anywho, no difference noticed by me.
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I found it easier to get at the protective film at the bottom of the screen. Big difference after it's removed.
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I found it easier to get at the protective film at the bottom of the screen. Big difference after it's removed.
Glad you can enjoy a glare free experience now. I think we still have some with it on, out there.

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