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Screws for installing Q80R wall mount brackets

Hi, I recently bought the 55 inch Q80R along with the Cheetah APTMSB TV Wall Mount for 20-55” TVs up to VESA 400 and 115lbs. The Manual for the Q80R says it has a 200X200 Vesa pattern and uses M8 screws for attaching the wall mount bracket to the TV. However, the M8 screws don't seem to fit the screw holes in the TV. It's not a length issue - I can push the screws in all the way no problem (with or without the spacers), but there doesn't seem to be screw threads in the holes, so the screws don't stay in. My old Samsung looks like it had adapters or something in the holes that seem to be missing from this one. Am I missing something? Thanks.
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Hi, I recently bought the 55 inch Q80R along with the Cheetah APTMSB TV Wall Mount for 20-55” TVs up to VESA 400 and 115lbs. The Manual for the Q80R says it has a 200X200 Vesa pattern and uses M8 screws for attaching the wall mount bracket to the TV. However, the M8 screws don't seem to fit the screw holes in the TV. It's not a length issue - I can push the screws in all the way no problem (with or without the spacers), but there doesn't seem to be screw threads in the holes, so the screws don't stay in. My old Samsung looks like it had adapters or something in the holes that seem to be missing from this one. Am I missing something? Thanks.
You may need a longer screw. I don't recall the length I needed on mine, but I recall them being fairly long.

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Hi, I recently bought the 55 inch Q80R along with the Cheetah APTMSB TV Wall Mount for 20-55” TVs up to VESA 400 and 115lbs. The Manual for the Q80R says it has a 200X200 Vesa pattern and uses M8 screws for attaching the wall mount bracket to the TV. However, the M8 screws don't seem to fit the screw holes in the TV. It's not a length issue - I can push the screws in all the way no problem (with or without the spacers), but there doesn't seem to be screw threads in the holes, so the screws don't stay in. My old Samsung looks like it had adapters or something in the holes that seem to be missing from this one. Am I missing something? Thanks.
The manual also clearly states the M8 screws should be 41mm to 43mm long, the threads on the TV are only at the very end of the holes.

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@UnfoldingSquid : Just wanted to check back if you managed to get calibration done for Samsung Q80R (American Panel). I did some calibration of my own but its always better, personally for me, to read other Samsung Q80R owners calibration settings. Much appreciate if you could update on this forum your calibration settings for HDR and SDR gaming as well. Thank you
My TV was finally calibrated and I'm quite happy with the results. I specifically told him I wanted SDR calibrated to 250 nits, so my TV is a little on the bright side but that's what I'm used to.
SDR:
Backlight - 27
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 45
Sharpness - 1 (this should be zero on your tv, this is a per TV setting as my Q9 sharpness is actually set to 2)
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Auto
Auo Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - Low
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm 2
Gamma - BT.1886 - 0
Color Space - Auto

HDR
Backlight - 50
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 46
Sharpness - 1
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Off
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - High
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm2
Gamma - ST.2084 - 0
Color Space - Auto

I specifically asked about Local Dimming being set to Low on SDR, the calibrator said for SDR it should be Low so it doesn't crush blacks in the lower nit content. The calibrator actually set Digital Clean View to Off on SDR but I turned it on afterwards, I find it helps clean up broadcast's digital noise.

I will probably end up playing with brightness later, but for now I'm pleased with where it is.

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@UnfoldingSquid: Calibration

@UnfoldingSquid : Thanks for sharing your settings but I find Warm2 much yellowish unless if your calibrator did some tweak with other settings that eliminated the yellowish color on your screen. Why did the calibrator go for Warm 2 instead of Standard color space?
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The manual also clearly states the M8 screws should be 41mm to 43mm long, the threads on the TV are only at the very end of the holes.
Thanks. Yes I know the screws are supposed to be 41-43mm, but I just assumed the Cheetah mount would include that size since my last mount had the correct size for my Samsung TV (but my last Samsung had the threads at the tip of the hole rather than at the end). Foolishly I didn't measure the screw sizes, but I'm going to assume that's the issue. I had already tried getting the right length M8 screw from a few hardware stores but no one seems to have 41-43. Fortunately I just found 43mm M8s on Amazon so I guess I'll use them and not use the spacers.

Thanks for your reply.
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You may need a longer screw. I don't recall the length I needed on mine, but I recall them being fairly long.
Thanks, yes it appears I need longer screws. I just assumed the mount would come with the correct size since it has like 8 different sizes, but apparently not. I just ordered the 43mm ones from Amazon, they should arrive tomorrow so hopefully that resolves the issue.
Thanks for your reply.
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My TV was finally calibrated and I'm quite happy with the results. I specifically told him I wanted SDR calibrated to 250 nits, so my TV is a little on the bright side but that's what I'm used to.
SDR:
Backlight - 27
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 45
Sharpness - 1 (this should be zero on your tv, this is a per TV setting as my Q9 sharpness is actually set to 2)
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Auto
Auo Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - Low
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm 2
Gamma - BT.1886 - 0
Color Space - Auto

HDR
Backlight - 50
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 46
Sharpness - 1
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Off
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - High
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm2
Gamma - ST.2084 - 0
Color Space - Auto

I specifically asked about Local Dimming being set to Low on SDR, the calibrator said for SDR it should be Low so it doesn't crush blacks in the lower nit content. The calibrator actually set Digital Clean View to Off on SDR but I turned it on afterwards, I find it helps clean up broadcast's digital noise.

I will probably end up playing with brightness later, but for now I'm pleased with where it is.
What mode are you using? Standard, Movie??
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My TV was finally calibrated and I'm quite happy with the results. I specifically told him I wanted SDR calibrated to 250 nits, so my TV is a little on the bright side but that's what I'm used to.
SDR:
Backlight - 27
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 45
Sharpness - 1 (this should be zero on your tv, this is a per TV setting as my Q9 sharpness is actually set to 2)
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Auto
Auo Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - Low
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm 2
Gamma - BT.1886 - 0
Color Space - Auto

HDR
Backlight - 50
Brightness - 0
Contrast - 46
Sharpness - 1
Color - 25
Tint - 0
Digital Clean View - Off
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Local Dimming - High
Contrast Enhancer - Off
Color Tone - Warm2
Gamma - ST.2084 - 0
Color Space - Auto

I specifically asked about Local Dimming being set to Low on SDR, the calibrator said for SDR it should be Low so it doesn't crush blacks in the lower nit content. The calibrator actually set Digital Clean View to Off on SDR but I turned it on afterwards, I find it helps clean up broadcast's digital noise.

I will probably end up playing with brightness later, but for now I'm pleased with where it is.
I'm surprised they left color space on auto. Did they not calibrate the white Balance settings?
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SDR:
Backlight - 27

I’m just wondering why most people want to manually set the backlight versus setting it to 50 and turning on Eco Solution > Ambient Light Detection > Minimum Backlight = 15?

The light in my viewing room changes greatly through the day and night, so I use the Ambient Light Detection to adjust the Backlight automatically. Seems to work great for me.
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My eyes are glazed over reading most of this thread and google searching, and apologize if I missed this, but is there a way to confirm the picture resolution the TV is actually outputting?
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@UnfoldingSquid : Thanks for sharing your settings but I find Warm2 much yellowish unless if your calibrator did some tweak with other settings that eliminated the yellowish color on your screen. Why did the calibrator go for Warm 2 instead of Standard color space?
Warm2 has been considered the most accurate, closest to film maker’s intent for a long time. Yes, calibrating the color and white point will get rid of the red hue in the whites.

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What mode are you using? Standard, Movie??
Movie, it’s the most accurate mode (if you care about accuracy).
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I'm surprised they left color space on auto. Did they not calibrate the white Balance settings?
When it’s being calibrated he’s making those changes in Custom, but if you leave it on Custom it won’t auto switch from SDR color mode and HDR, you have to change it manually in Custom. Auto retains the changes to the color settings but will switch the color space based on the content for you.

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@UnfoldingSquid: Calibration

UnfoldingSquid: Thanks for the update. I just want to confirm that the settings you shared for both HDR and SDR can also be applied to gaming console such as PS4 Pro?
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UnfoldingSquid: Thanks for the update. I just want to confirm that the settings you shared for both HDR and SDR can also be applied to gaming console such as PS4 Pro?
Should be fine for console too, I use the same SDR and HDR settings for my consoles that were calibrated on my Q9 and everything looks great.

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UnfoldingSquid re calibration

To UnfoldingSquid, thanks again for those settings. I saw the calibration settings for SDR and HDR were both done in the movie mode. I prefer the more vibrant Standard mode to base things on. My question is will your settings still work fine for standard mode or were they just calibrated for movie mode? Thanks
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Hi,

I've recently purchased a 65" Q80R and I have a problem with fast motion in apps.

I have a YouView box from BT connected to my TV, which I mostly use to watch football in HD.

When I watch games on BT Sports or Sky channel via cable, everything is butter-smooth and a joy to watch. Initially, I had motion setting at auto but even after turning it off the games were perfectly enjoyable.

The problem is with most apps, both the ones built into the YouView box and the ones installed on the TV itself. Whenever I watch football on any of the following, with judder and blur reduction maxed out, slow and average-speed motion is good but fast-moving objects seem to appear in three or four places along their movement path at the same time (I guess you'd call that judder). The ball, players legs on close ups etc., it's horrible and makes games impossible to enjoy.

The problematic apps are:

BT Sport (on the TV)
BT TV (on the box)
YouTube (on the TV)

The problem doesn't stop at football, any fast-moving objects behave that way, which I noticed when watchin Horrible Histories movie on Amazon Video app (both the box version and the TV version).

Surprisingly, games look great on BBC iPlayer app (box and TV).

My first thought was that maybe iPlayer streamed at 50fps while all the other apps did at 25fps, but I don't think that's the case. I believe BT Sport at the very least serves content at 50fps, although I wouldn't put my life on it. I'd also expect Amazon Video to stream at 50fps.

I tried turning Game Mode on for apps on the box and control motion from there, but it made no difference.

I'll be grateful for any hints.
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Not sure if this is the right forum but I'm hoping you can help. I purchased a 65" Samsung Q80R and Q80R Soundbar on Dec 26th. The department store changed the delivery date 4 times and I believe the model is discontinued. I paid in full for the items but they say Samsung is the reason I dont have my TV and have now revised arrival to 1st week of Feb. Considering I paid in full and have proof of purchase does Samsung have any obligations to fulfill my purchase since it wasnt purchased directly from Samsung but instead a 3rd party vendor? I invested so much time and money preparing for this TV's arrival. I need help.
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Considering I paid in full and have proof of purchase does Samsung have any obligations to fulfill my purchase since it wasnt purchased directly from Samsung but instead a 3rd party vendor?
No, Samsung has no obligation whatsoever. Get a refund and shop elsewhere.
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Not sure if this is the right forum but I'm hoping you can help. I purchased a 65" Samsung Q80R and Q80R Soundbar on Dec 26th. The department store changed the delivery date 4 times and I believe the model is discontinued. I paid in full for the items but they say Samsung is the reason I dont have my TV and have now revised arrival to 1st week of Feb. Considering I paid in full and have proof of purchase does Samsung have any obligations to fulfill my purchase since it wasnt purchased directly from Samsung but instead a 3rd party vendor? I invested so much time and money preparing for this TV's arrival. I need help.
You need to deal with the store. They’re the ones playing you. Call your credit card company and dispute it. Then notify the store the order is cancelled.

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Warm2 has been considered the most accurate, closest to film maker’s intent for a long time. Yes, calibrating the color and white point will get rid of the red hue in the whites.


How do you separate SDR and HDR settings in movie mode?


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Not sure if this is the right forum but I'm hoping you can help. I purchased a 65" Samsung Q80R and Q80R Soundbar on Dec 26th. The department store changed the delivery date 4 times and I believe the model is discontinued. I paid in full for the items but they say Samsung is the reason I dont have my TV and have now revised arrival to 1st week of Feb. Considering I paid in full and have proof of purchase does Samsung have any obligations to fulfill my purchase since it wasnt purchased directly from Samsung but instead a 3rd party vendor? I invested so much time and money preparing for this TV's arrival. I need help.
What's discontinued? Both are current models...
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Looking at the Q80 65” a a replacement for a 65” 2016 Vizio M. Was curious if anyone here uses it for tons of gaming? Between our Xbox and Switch it would probably average 4-6 hours a day in our family. With such a requirement I decided to steer away from OLED this time around.

And was curious if all HDMI ports supported [email protected] and HDCP 2.2. Running into this issue on my Vizio as it only has 1 HDMI port that meets the spec. Unfortunately it’s a defective port. Required by the newer FiOS One TV stb if you want to watch their 4K channels. 😔
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Looking at the Q80 65” a a replacement for a 65” 2016 Vizio M. Was curious if anyone here uses it for tons of gaming? Between our Xbox and Switch it would probably average 4-6 hours a day in our family. With such a requirement I decided to steer away from OLED this time around.

And was curious if all HDMI ports supported [email protected] and HDCP 2.2. Running into this issue on my Vizio as it only has 1 HDMI port that meets the spec. Unfortunately it’s a defective port. Required by the newer FiOS One TV stb if you want to watch their 4K channels. 😔
That's all mine is used for. It gets PC, PS4, Xbox, switch... Everything. It's a really good gaming TV.
Though I couldn't tell you about the ports for sure, since I use a receiver and everything is plugged into that but as far as I know, all the ports work 60hz 2.2 etc. Just one has ARC though.
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Looking at the Q80 65” a a replacement for a 65” 2016 Vizio M. Was curious if anyone here uses it for tons of gaming? Between our Xbox and Switch it would probably average 4-6 hours a day in our family. With such a requirement I decided to steer away from OLED this time around.

And was curious if all HDMI ports supported [email protected] and HDCP 2.2. Running into this issue on my Vizio as it only has 1 HDMI port that meets the spec. Unfortunately it’️s a defective port. Required by the newer FiOS One TV stb if you want to watch their 4K channels. 😔
That's all mine is used for. It gets PC, PS4, Xbox, switch... Everything. It's a really good gaming TV.
Though I couldn't tell you about the ports for sure, since I use a receiver and everything is plugged into that but as far as I know, all the ports work 60hz 2.2 etc. Just one has ARC though.
Thank you! I appreciate the information.

I think the only thing holding me back at this point is possibly the viewing angle. Going to check out the tv in a store if I can find it somewhere. It’s a problem with the current Vizio that we have and I had planned to go with OLED for that reason. But had the burn in issue with our old plasma because of gaming and so I have that concern.
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Thank you! I appreciate the information.

I think the only thing holding me back at this point is possibly the viewing angle. Going to check out the tv in a store if I can find it somewhere. It’s a problem with the current Vizio that we have and I had planned to go with OLED for that reason. But had the burn in issue with our old plasma because of gaming and so I have that concern.
The viewing angle is awesome. My seating in the living room is five across. Three person couch and a recliner on each end. All are superb. Not so with previous Sammy TV. I had to offset the TV on the stand to compensate. This TV is centered and squared.
The viewing distance is 15’ to center seat. Longer on the ends. Awesome set!
Q80R 65”

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Question for Q80 owners:

What made you choose this set over the Q90/Q70/other comparable LCD?

I'm mostly sold on the PQ advantage of the Q80 over the Q70, and am not convinced that the Q90 represents a jump in PQ commensurate with the difference in price over the Q80. Also, the one connect setup of the Q90 strikes me as a potential liability.

Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Question for Q80 owners:

What made you choose this set over the Q90/Q70/other comparable LCD?

I'm mostly sold on the PQ advantage of the Q80 over the Q70, and am not convinced that the Q90 represents a jump in PQ commensurate with the difference in price over the Q80. Also, the one connect setup of the Q90 strikes me as a potential liability.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

The only reason I purchased the Q80 over the Q90 is because I only needed a 55" set and the Q90 does not come in that size. I did read that some Q90 owners were having issues with the one connect box, but I haven't been following that forum in a while so I don't know it those issues were ever resolved.
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