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For north America, it's a 2019 model. Come on man you should have this all memorized
I know Ray lol but what I said was correct The Rtings upcoming review is for the Q900 which is the 2018 model since there an European company. If you look down on the voting list you can see the Q950 at the bottom which is the 2019 Q900 in America and probably the one he thought Rtings were reviewing. Its just the 2018 model there reviewing.
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I know Ray lol but what I said was correct The Rtings upcoming review is for the Q900 which is the 2018 model since there an European company. If you look down on the voting list you can see the Q950 at the bottom which is the 2019 Q900 in America and probably the one he thought Rtings were reviewing. Its just the 2018 model there reviewing.

They may have made a mistake. The Q900RA was only available in 85" in North America. Any smaller sizes now are Q900RB. I guess we have to wonder is this the Montreal store or the UK? Rtings main store is in Canada right?

Rtings actually just said the other day that they drive to New York to buy their review units, which is why they don't review Panasonic tvs. And only the 65Q900RB is available in the USA. I tweeted them for clarification. If I'm right you have to buy me a 75q900rb. If I'm wrong I'll just pretend it never happened. Everybody wins.

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I would imagine since they have both a Q900 and Q950 on the voting list its the 2018 version. At least that's my take away from this. I would like to be wrong though but I have a feeling its going to be last years Q900. Could always ask them I suppose lol. A week and a half and ill be able to compare the Q950 to my previous Q900 as its still very fresh in the mind. Was going to wait to see how much the LG C9 will cost but that doesn't look like its going to be available till May. I just wish the Q950 had more zones than the same 480. While its an decent amount I would have happily paid more for more zones as its still not enough occasionally.

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From the rtings.com voting page:

Suggestions not matching the following will be rejected:

1. USA Models
2. One variant per model (one size for TVs or one color for headphones)
3. Models currently in production and not soon to be discontinued
4. Mainstream models, no exotic releases (TVs exceeding $5,000 USD)

Given those factors it's EXTREMELY unlikely that they purchased a $15k 85" TV for review, meaning they probably bought the 65Q900RB for review. I've always thought of them as a Canadian site, at least as far as V reviews, rather than a European one and this criteria would seem to bear that out.
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I'm pulling the trigger this year on a new TV. Curious to get some thoughts on LG C9 vs. Samsung Q900. Either 77" 4k OLED or 75" 8k QLED?
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I’m really sad about what I’m reading in this thread. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on the 75” today, but if they were not able to improve the FALD algorithm it’s a no go. All the backlight/FALD issues are the reason that I returned my Q9FN. I’m very sensitive to FALD artifacts like blooming and luminance fluctuations. Very sad to hear that it can’t even beat out a 2016 Z9D.
Most of the Q9FN issues were already fixed with the Q900 from last year. You wouldn't imagine the 2019 version has gone backward so I would definatly just wait till we have more than one/two owners. Honestly the only way your gonna know for sure is to buy it from a place with a good return policy and test it for your self. Personally I don't trust anyones opinion but myself. I was going to order the Q950 and if its worse than my Q900 was for blooming it will be going straight back.
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From the Q70 thread someone posted a chat they had with Rtings about VRR.

"We've only tested the VRR on the Q900 so far, and it has a 4k VRR range of 48-60. It is technically a 2018 model though, so we don't know yet if anything has changed."

Looks like it is the 2018 model and not the new Q900 afterall. That would be a shame if it is.

P.S can any of you Q900 2019 owners confirm your One connect box is HDMI 2.1? Its kind of worrying that there's been no confirmation by anyone who owns one yet.
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Sorry if this has been asked, but is the Q950r just the UK variant of the US Q900?


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Sorry if this has been asked, but is the Q950r just the UK variant of the US Q900?


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Yes the Q950 is the UK variant of the 2019 Q900 model in the US.


Thanks! Here I was waiting for the pre orders to go live for the Q950r... Would have been waiting forever!


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lol yes you would Its very confusing how they have labelled the sets in America. They should have just called them the Q950 models. Basically in America the 85 inch model is the 2018 set and the other sizes are the 2019 sets as they only did one size in 2018 and carried it over into this year.
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lol yes you would Its very confusing how they have labelled the sets in America. They should have just called them the Q950 models. Basically in America the 85 inch model is the 2018 set and the other sizes are the 2019 sets as they only did one size in 2018 and carried it over into this year.


Yea, so confusing! I guess I’ll just put in my order for the Q900 65”!


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From the Q70 thread someone posted a chat they had with Rtings about VRR.

"We've only tested the VRR on the Q900 so far, and it has a 4k VRR range of 48-60. It is technically a 2018 model though, so we don't know yet if anything has changed."

Looks like it is the 2018 model and not the new Q900 afterall. That would be a shame if it is.

P.S can any of you Q900 2019 owners confirm your One connect box is HDMI 2.1? Its kind of worrying that there's been no confirmation by anyone who owns one yet.
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lol yes you would Its very confusing how they have labelled the sets in America. They should have just called them the Q950 models. Basically in America the 85 inch model is the 2018 set and the other sizes are the 2019 sets as they only did one size in 2018 and carried it over into this year.



no offense to them cause they put a lot of work into their reviews...but I wanna see an actual model number on the box. I would not be surprised if they themselves got confused about which model they got.
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no offense to them cause they put a lot of work into their reviews...but I wanna see an actual model number on the box. I would not be surprised if they themselves got confused about which model they got.
Ask them in the Q&A section after they review the product. They are really good at answering those types of questions.
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No need. We will know straight away when they mention the viewing angles. It will be easy to spot if there 2019 features.
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P.S can any of you Q900 2019 owners confirm your One connect box is HDMI 2.1? Its kind of worrying that there's been no confirmation by anyone who owns one yet.

How can I tell? I notice it says my receiver supports Dolby atmos when I select the receiver for audio output
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no offense to them cause they put a lot of work into their reviews...but I wanna see an actual model number on the box. I would not be surprised if they themselves got confused about which model they got.
The full model code of the unit we bought is the QN65Q900RBF. In the U.S., the 2018 'RA' version was only ever available in 85", the smaller units sold in the U.S. are all 2019 'RB' models.

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no offense to them cause they put a lot of work into their reviews...but I wanna see an actual model number on the box. I would not be surprised if they themselves got confused about which model they got.
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From the Q70 thread someone posted a chat they had with Rtings about VRR.

"We've only tested the VRR on the Q900 so far, and it has a 4k VRR range of 48-60. It is technically a 2018 model though, so we don't know yet if anything has changed."

Looks like it is the 2018 model and not the new Q900 afterall. That would be a shame if it is.

P.S can any of you Q900 2019 owners confirm your One connect box is HDMI 2.1? Its kind of worrying that there's been no confirmation by anyone who owns one yet.
Unfortunately, with no HDMI 2.1 sources available yet, we don't know of any way to confirm whether or not the Q900 supports HDMI 2.1 Full Bandwidth. The other features supported by the Q900, and the other 2018 and 2019 QLEDS (VRR, ALLM, etc...) don't require extra bandwidth.
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Welcome ababcock! It's good to have someone from rtings.com on the forum. That's excellent news! I was pretty sure that you guys had picked up a 2019 set for review based on your suggestion guidelines, but thanks for confirming it. How long does it usually take you from purchasing a set to getting a review up, on average? My set arrives Wednesday* so I'll be looking for some good settings to start tweaking with.

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Welcome ababcock! It's good to have someone from rtings.com on the forum. That's excellent news! I was pretty sure that you guys had picked up a 2019 set for review based on your suggestion guidelines, but thanks for confirming it. How long does it usually take you from purchasing a set to getting a review up, on average? My set arrives Wednesday* so I'll be looking for some good settings to start tweaking with.

*Assuming AGS doesn't have a "truck broke down" moment.
Depends on the TV, but usually 2-3 weeks from pick-up to review. This time of year though, it can be a bit longer, as we buy TVs in batches. The Q900 is presenting a few challenges, due to the new technologies involved, we want to make sure we don't miss anything.

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So since the HDMI 2.1 features are still a moving target it looks like as of now the two real differences with comparable 4K sets are resolution and max brightness.

I'd love to get the opinion of owners on this thread if these two factors justify the large price difference with a 4K set.

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So since the HDMI 2.1 features are still a moving target it looks like as of now the two real differences with comparable 4K sets are resolution and max brightness.

I'd love to get the opinion of owners on this thread if these two factors justify the large price difference with a 4K set.

Thanks!
That's a good question. Considering that one of the things I wanted out of a new TV was the ability to do 4K 120Hz at 10-bit 4:4:4, as I'm mulling building a monster gaming PC and who knows what the next gen consoles will be capable of, I couldn't get that in the 4K sets. They top out a 4:2:0 with 4K 120Hz. If the Q90R had full bandwidth HDMI 2.1 I probably would have gone that route. Of course, the added brightness in a TV without Dolby Vision should be of benefit. If it's twice as bright as the Q90R as Samsung claims that should be around 3000nits calibrated.

My other option was an OLED, and if I truly don't think this TV is worth it once I've gotten it, that might be the route I end up taking still. Though sending this TV back will be a pain in the arse so it'll have to overcome a lot of inertia on that front.

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That's a good question. Considering that one of the things I wanted out of a new TV was the ability to do 4K 120Hz at 10-bit 4:4:4, as I'm mulling building a monster gaming PC and who knows what the next gen consoles will be capable of, I couldn't get that in the 4K sets. They top out a 4:2:0 with 4K 120Hz. If the Q90R had full bandwidth HDMI 2.1 I probably would have gone that route. Of course, the added brightness in a TV without Dolby Vision should be of benefit. If it's twice as bright as the Q90R as Samsung claims that should be around 3000nits calibrated.

My other option was an OLED, and if I truly don't think this TV is worth it once I've gotten it, that might be the route I end up taking still. Though sending this TV back will be a pain in the arse so it'll have to overcome a lot of inertia on that front.
Interesting. Wasn't aware the 8K sets could do 4:4:4. I thought they had HDMI 2.1 ports just for the 8K60 input.

That's another plus then since the $k models can't do that.

Do you feel the added resolution makes a difference? That's one thing I'm not able to figure out...
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So since the HDMI 2.1 features are still a moving target it looks like as of now the two real differences with comparable 4K sets are resolution and max brightness.

I'd love to get the opinion of owners on this thread if these two factors justify the large price difference with a 4K set.

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I know the z9d isn't your average 4k set but my opinion with the same content side by side on the two 75" TV's is... it depends! The Samsung Q900 was notably brighter in many situations verses the z9d but strangely enough the Z could provide more pop in some cases. Generally I would notice that extra pop in darker scenes. On overall bright scenes the Samsung pulled away from the Z and would dazzle you. I certainly miss that brightness.

Regarding the visible difference between 8K and 4K... often times I felt the Z looked sharper but then I would notice that there was less aliasing on the Samsung and less grain in it's picture. They traded blows but in the end I felt the 4k z9d won the crisp detail fight more than it lost.

Now, if I compared the LG B7 in the living room (unfortunately they weren't side by side) I'd give the sharpness nod to the Q900 in many cases. With the B7 being a 65" vs the Q900 75" I think that's pretty impressive.

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I know the z9d isn't your average 4k set but my opinion with the same content side by side on the two 75" TV's is... it depends! The Samsung Q900 was notably brighter in many situations verses the z9d but strangely enough the Z could provide more pop in some cases. Generally I would notice that extra pop in darker scenes. On overall bright scenes the Samsung pulled away from the Z and would dazzle you. I certainly miss that brightness.

Regarding the visible difference between 8K and 4K... often times I felt the Z looked sharper but then I would notice that there was less aliasing on the Samsung and less grain in it's picture. They traded blows but in the end I felt the 4k z9d won the crisp detail fight more than it lost.

Now, if I compared the LG B7 in the living room (unfortunately they weren't side by side) I'd give the sharpness nod to the Q900 in many cases. With the B7 being a 65" vs the Q900 75" I think that's pretty impressive.
Thanks for the feedback. Given what you say, do you feel the Samsung 4K Q90 will be close enough to the 8K model? I know you don't have them but I'm thinking since everything is the same between the two sets except for brightness and sharpness, if you say the Z9D is close, maybe the Q90 will be too?

I don't mind spending the $4K difference to get the Q900 if there is a noticeable difference between the two. But if the difference is small, or if the hardware dimming chip in the Q90 gives it better blacks than the Q900, it becomes a very difficult decision. Which is why this thread's owner's feedback is so important.
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You sound like me. I'm actually still considering picking up the 82-inch q90 because it has the dedicated dimming chip. The dimming was my only real problem with the q900.

I was honestly not truly sold on 8K and have no problem sticking with plain old 4K 🙂

Please don't misunderstand, it looked very nice but I brought three people in to compare the two televisions and two out of three preferred the 4k TV.

The guy that picked the Samsung couldn't quit drooling over the 8K factor lol. He's been anticipating 8k for a while now and even admitted that just knowing it was 8K may have swayed his decision.

Look forward to hearing which way you decide to go.

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You sound like me. I'm actually still considering picking up the 82-inch q90 because it has the dedicated dimming chip. The dimming was my only real problem with the q900.

I was honestly not truly sold on 8K and have no problem sticking with plain old 4K 🙂

Please don't misunderstand, it looked very nice but I brought three people in to compare the two televisions and two out of three preferred the 4k TV.

The guy that picked the Samsung couldn't quit drooling over the 8K factor lol. He's been anticipating 8k for a while now and even admitted that just knowing it was 8K may have swayed his decision.

Look forward to hearing which way you decide to go.
I'll def let you know once I decide. I'm planning to keep my next TV 5+ years so I'll be looking at the 8K sets long and hard for future proofing. But as we all know future proofing is a mirage in this industry, so I'd rather get the 4K Q90 is it performs better or equal and get an 8K set in 5 years. Decisions, decisions...
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Pulled the trigger on 75"

Super excited... Just ordered a 75" Q900RB for delivery Saturday.
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