Originally Posted by TriTon464
Strange about Rtings. The evaluation numbers change depending what TV's you compare. If you compare a lesser one to a better one the better one gets better numbers(higher). if you compare a better onne to a lesser one the numbers on the lesser one actually change to much worse for the lesser one! How odd. Not sure you can trust them. For instance, compare JS9000 to Vizio M series the JS9000 gets higher numbers. Then if you compare a 900F to the JS9000 the numbers actually change in favor of the 900F! I do not mean it is just better, the numbers do not stay the same! Further explained say the JS9000 compared to the Vizio M gets 8.5 on something. Compare the JS9000 to the 900F and the JS900 then gets 3.5 on the same item! Is this how it is supposed to be? I would think their numbers were universal across the board. Unless I am misunderstanding. Is it showing which specific model is stronger or is it just a number from the original tests? It can't be because the numbers change in favor of the better TV. It must be an actual comparison between models and not a "static" comparison across the board? I thought it compared apples and apples. Not apples and oranges if you understand what I am saying. The numbers I thought should stay the same regardless of what sets you compare? All I can guess it is a comparison of actual specific models and not just a general non deviating comparison? Nonetheless it is interesting how well the JS9000 holds up today. Heck, it was a $3,299 TV. Although compared to many of todays $1,000 TV's they fair somewhat better but not drastically. Where the JS9000 is lacking is local dimming as it is edgelit. I am not stating actual pricing but giving MSRP figures. I hope that is okay here. I am not sure what Rtings actual comparison methodology is though?
Daniel from RTINGS here.
This is definitely confusing behavior, and something we need to improve in the future!
We test each product on a fixed test bench, so that all products tested on the same test bench are directly comparable. For TVs, we usually update our test bench every year. When we do so, we also retest all of the TVs in our lab, and then continue to use the same test bench to test new products. This means that results for TVs can be compared across years, but only if they were tested on the same test bench.
Usually only 1/5th of the tests change with a new test bench though, so even if TVs aren't on the same test bench some comparison is still useful. Our comparison tool takes advantage of this by 'converting' results from one test bench to another. To do so, it applies new weightings or score curves to old results. This results in the confusing behavior where the comparison tool shows 'converted' results, while the review shows the results of the test bench the product was tested on. All measurement data is the same, but scores are very different. The top of the compare tool also only highlights the most significant differences, so make sure you scroll down the page to see the full comparison!
The JS9000 is still a very good TV. It has a good anti-reflective coating and handles motion very well with a fast response time. It has low input lag for gaming (still comparable to new models) and a wide color gamut (similar to the Q70R from this year).
Depending on what you care about, there are definitely improvements you can get though. TVs have been getting brighter, which can help HDR content to pop. Also, full-array local dimming allows for deeper dark scenes when viewed in the dark. The Q80R and Q90R also have the best anti-reflective coating we've seen which definitely makes a difference for a bright room.