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post #211 of 247 Old 10-28-2019, 10:05 AM
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I also have a Sony 940D and am thinking of getting a larger TV so I'm extremely interested to know your take on how it holds up or if you consider it a major downgrade.
Well, I didn't replace my 940D with the SM9000. I kept my 940D in my media room and bought the SM9000 for our living room. In my opinion, the SM9000 doesn't handle motion as well as the 940D, but it does have Dolby Vision, and I like the OS more. I don't watch a lot of movies on the SM9000, but overall, I'm happy with it.

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Hi guys, first time posting here. I leaning towards getting a LG75" 9 series.
However I saw a 8 series 82" in Best Buy that looks really nice for the same price.
I will be replacing a 60" Sharp Aquos in a 19'×16' room.
Do anyone think the 82" will be too big for that size room. I am worried it may be too over powering, like just dominate the room too much, it is the family room, and the wife already makes comments about my audio black boxes taking up that wall 😞
I offered to repaint the whole room, so that made her kind of happy.
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Hi guys, first time posting here. I leaning towards getting a LG75" 9 series.
However I saw a 8 series 82" in Best Buy that looks really nice for the same price.
I will be replacing a 60" Sharp Aquos in a 19'×16' room.
Do anyone think the 82" will be too big for that size room. I am worried it may be too over powering, like just dominate the room too much, it is the family room, and the wife already makes comments about my audio black boxes taking up that wall 😞
I offered to repaint the whole room, so that made her kind of happy.
My room is 13x14 and the smallest set I will upgrade to is 82". Go big.

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For owners running firmware 3.60.35 are you able to sucessfully use AirPlay from an iOS device to the TV? I can see the AirPlay UI and settings on the actual TV but none of my apple devices "see" the TV. I confirmed that my devices are all on the same wireless network. Has anyone been able to airplay?

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Got a big update (took about 15 min), I was on 3.60.00 and after the update on I am 4.70.04...

Any idea on changes ?

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Got a big update (took about 15 min), I was on 3.60.00 and after the update on I am 4.70.04...

Any idea on changes ?
I haven't noticed anything yet but the TV is in the family room with the wife most of the time. I am very pleased with the 86" though, might not have the best blacks but the colors and uniformity seem to be very good and I don't watch in a completely dark room. Wife is very happy the 70" was just do darn small.
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For owners running firmware 3.60.35 are you able to sucessfully use AirPlay from an iOS device to the TV? I can see the AirPlay UI and settings on the actual TV but none of my apple devices "see" the TV. I confirmed that my devices are all on the same wireless network. Has anyone been able to airplay?
Can anyone AirPlay at all? Can you establish a connection to HomeKit?

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Hi guys, i just signed up because i wanted to ask some sm900 owner who game on this tv, how is the motion? I just ended up returning 2 samsung qleds due to bad motion and motion interpolation artefacts. So i'm in the market for either this tv or sony x950g. How is the motion on trumotion clear setting? Any artefacts?
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I understand there is a firmware update that resolves blurring and shaping issues for gaming. Also 4k has no more frame skipping for gaming at 120hz. Many things fixed in firmware update for gaming and variable refresh. I can't wait till my 86SM9070PUA gets here next week!

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Does anyone who owns the 75" or 86" know how many dimming zones are on the "Full Array Dimming Pro" versions? Is there a way you can count? I know when you go from Samsung's 2019 models it goes from 48 - 96 - 400 in the Q90!


Why does LG keep it a secret?
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What sound bar are you all. using with this TV that works and integrates well? I have a few years old Sony that worked great with my previous Sony TV but not so well with this one.

I am more interested in something that comes on and off with the TV automatically as opposed to the very best sound etc. I run mine with a sound bar for normal listening to keep things easy for my wife but if I am watching a move I change the LG TV output to digital output and run everything through my AV receiver. But I need to keep it easy to use with a sound bar for the wife or else I lose the wife acceptance factor.
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Has anyone compared the LG 65SM9500PUA vs. LG 65SM9000PUA or the 75/86 9070's?

The 9500 was on special online and I had to pull the trigger.

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SM9500 info?

I was wondering in general why I couldn't find much info on this forum about the SM9500. Is this just not a TV on anyone's list?
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I was wondering in general why I couldn't find much info on this forum about the SM9500. Is this just not a TV on anyone's list?
Haven’t seen them in person, Best Buy doesn’t carry it.

I think for the amount they typically go for you’re close to the price of an OLED.

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Haven’t seen them in person, Best Buy doesn’t carry it.

I think for the amount they typically go for you’re close to the price of an OLED.

Ok. For me the OLED is not an option because of extensive video game playing with many static elements ( I love fighting games). I don't want to deal with possible issues that may come with OLED.
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There are exactly 4 reviews for the 9500 on Amazon and 2 of those are griping and defending OLED, I was hoping an expert had actually worked with one.

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Well, I went ahead an ordered the SM9500 today. I'm in no way an expert as far as providing insights or comparisons, but I have a reasonable understanding of what I'll get from an LG IPS LCD TV, so I have tempered my expectations regarding black levels, etc. I'm mainly excited for the HDMI 2.1 and VRR support which should give me some good future proofing for PS5 and XBox Series X.
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Bought the 65" 9000 Today

Replacing an older plasma.

Not the same but with the streaming content available it works.

Curious about recommended settings for tv viewing.

I was surprised to see backlight and contract at 100%
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This might give you a place to start experimenting:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussion...eview-settings

The suggestions seem largely aimed at getting the best black levels when watching HDR material in a dark room. For general TV watching I have been tinkering with the ISF Dark Room and Bright Room settings, which seem to produce a generally pleasing picture from most sources.



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Replacing an older plasma.

Not the same but with the streaming content available it works.

Curious about recommended settings for tv viewing.

I was surprised to see backlight and contract at 100%

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This might give you a place to start experimenting:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussion...eview-settings

The suggestions seem largely aimed at getting the best black levels when watching HDR material in a dark room. For general TV watching I have been tinkering with the ISF Dark Room and Bright Room settings, which seem to produce a generally pleasing picture from most sources.
Thanks, I'll try that!
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Finally

After a few abortive attempts (received broken TV, and wrong TV in the box), finally got the 9500 in and barely even did any configuration. Loving how intense the brightness gets in HDR content. Watching things like the intro to the Fire Force anime look very pleasing. Finally getting started.
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Not sure what it’s called, but has anyone noticed the black “clouds” in really dark scenes?

I was watching how to train your dragon 3 in 4K HDR and the dark scenes had these really dark clouds all over the place. You can even see them in the final credits when it’s just black screen with text and no pictures. It makes the movie unwatchable as lots of the image gets blocked out with this splotch of black that takes up whole sections of the screen.

I was able to get rid of them by turning off local dimming, but doing that made blacks turn grey.

I then set the “black level” setting to high, while keeping local dimming at high, and it seems to have fixed the problem better than just turning off local dimming. Though I have no idea what “black level” setting actually does.

This is on the 86” if that matters.
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Not sure what it’s called, but has anyone noticed the black “clouds” in really dark scenes?

I was watching how to train your dragon 3 in 4K HDR and the dark scenes had these really dark clouds all over the place. You can even see them in the final credits when it’s just black screen with text and no pictures. It makes the movie unwatchable as lots of the image gets blocked out with this splotch of black that takes up whole sections of the screen.

I was able to get rid of them by turning off local dimming, but doing that made blacks turn grey.

I then set the “black level” setting to high, while keeping local dimming at high, and it seems to have fixed the problem better than just turning off local dimming. Though I have no idea what “black level” setting actually does.

This is on the 86” if that matters.



I just wrote a very negative review on LG's website about this issue. When there is a full picture, the image is spectacular.. However, when there is a dark background you see massive clouding from the back lights.. Say you had tennis ball in the middle of a black screen, you would see a white haze the size of a rule around it.. Like waaaayyy too much over compensation of the lightning. It so bad it takes me out of the experience and makes me say, "I Paid WHAT For this!!!"..



I have found if I turn Local Dimming off it resolves it, but then the whole screen is the cloudy greyish color. If you put it on HIGH it works, however it will cut the brightness in 1/2 of images that aren't very large, like text or titles, or smaller objects (Forget seeing stars in space). On High setting you will see it bright for a sec, then dim, it's very annoying to have such a delay.


You can also bring your backlight down to like 30 and you wont notice it that much, but then you'll have to turn off all the lights to see a bright picture.



I'm hoping that they can fix this in a firmware update, but since it's end of the year and they are already working on the next TV to sell you, they most likely wont give a hoot.


Unfortunately I ordered the TV online and they would charge a bit to send it back, otherwise I would return it in a heart beat. Everything else about the TV is perfect.
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I just purchased the 65sm9500 in the states. Definitely not worth MSRP, but at the current $1k it can be found for it's an awesome set.

Regarding the only main negative I keep seeing on the set, blooming hasn't really been a issue in daytime or night. I can make it an issue if I'm watching at night and max backlight and local dimming on sd content, but not during normal viewing. On regular sd/hd content I've been running Technicolor expert w/ local dimming on high. For dv/hdr I'm running Cinema home, no power saving mode enabled at any point.

What's interesting though is on Dolby Vision content, which does max backlight and local dimming, even in the dark, titles like stranger things produce no distracting blooming, even in dark scene where they're running around with a bright flashlight. What's supposed to pop does and without halos. Makes me think there's some magic going on with the local dimming algorithm that isn't happening on SD content.
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I just purchased the 65sm9500 in the states. Definitely not worth MSRP, but at the current $1k it can be found for it's an awesome set.

Regarding the only main negative I keep seeing on the set, blooming hasn't really been a issue in daytime or night. I can make it an issue if I'm watching at night and max backlight and local dimming on sd content, but not during normal viewing. On regular sd/hd content I've been running Technicolor expert w/ local dimming on high. For dv/hdr I'm running Cinema home, no power saving mode enabled at any point.

What's interesting though is on Dolby Vision content, which does max backlight and local dimming, even in the dark, titles like stranger things produce no distracting blooming, even in dark scene where they're running around with a bright flashlight. What's supposed to pop does and without halos. Makes me think there's some magic going on with the local dimming algorithm that isn't happening on SD content.
Actually for SD content I don't find the blooming a big deal. It's when it goes into HDR mode when the back bulbs go max sunlight capacity.

I counted the array zones on the 86" SM9070PUA. There are 5 Horizontal 14 Vertical Total = 70.

You can disable HDR for the 4 HDMI inputs via settings, however when you are watching the smart TV apps there is no way to turn HDR off. Therefore, content in HDR, you will see the white cloud blooming. If you set local dimming to high.. well.. the algorithm highly is lacking, it's actually just awful watching the darks trying to keep up with the light and the fact of 5 horizontal zones, yikes.

I have decided that the TV is actually a great deal for 86" because of the following MAIN reasons.

Content with Dolby Vision doesn't show the blooming as bad, it's like the TV was made for Dolby Vision so the lighting and dimming algorithms work much better than HDR and HDR10.

Watching the videos of the Sony 85" XBR950G with the same problem, however the 950G only has 50 local dimming zones which is worse. (see more info here)

So, if LG could improve the Algorithm to better keep the dark areas contained with HDR content the TV would be amazing. I just feel that no matter what TV you got in 2019 you were basically screwed with the rear panel lighting. (Samsung Q90R had like 200 LDZ's).

So from what I've seen, 2020 would've been the year to get a TV.

* You can do OLED (can't get as large for as cheap)
* Micro LED's are coming... THE FUTURE !!!
* TV's in 2020 are having up to 1000+ local dimming zones (bye bye blooming) ..

For what I paid for the biggest TV money can buy.. You can't beat it!
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Hi, can you pls. confirm Gsync works fine with this TV and RTX 2*** Series?


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Hi, can you pls. confirm Gsync works fine with this TV and RTX 2*** Series?
Don't have an RTX card but no gsync with my GTX 1050 ti (my main card is a Vega 64) even after updating the TV's firmware.

Afaik, gsync on the LG only works with GTX 16xx and RTX series. Nvidia no doubt trying to sell more cards but I refuse to upgrade until they or AMD learn to count past 2 (i.e. hdmi 2.1). Still no way to get beyond 4K/60 til then.

2020 models appear to support both gsync and freesync so hoping LG will release another update to add freesync to the SM9000. Also hope Nvidia will add 10xx series gsync compatibility with the LG.
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is this the place for UM6900 owners? I just got the 50" a couple days ago to replace my Panny 42ST30 Plasma from 2011. Using in the bedroom (have a 65G7P OLED for the living room already).

Liking it so far. Not impressed with black levels but that's coming from plasma and OLED. Trying to find the best settings. I do miss Dolby Vision.. Stranger Things on Netflix says HDR, but I know it has Dolby Vision - doesn't seem to cue HDR on this panel since it doesn't have DV. I figured it would just use HDR10 instead.

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Looking at getting at 49sm9000 to replace my 49Uh850v. Currently have an Apple TV 4K, has the new Apple TV app been released in this Tv yet? Any good if it has? Thanks


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