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I can buy the 85 inch open box version now for $3069.90 CAD after tax which I think is an incredible deal, and by far the best deal I have ever seen for the quality of tv and being 85 inches, but I literally have had an issue with every monitor and hdtv I have owned.. Not getting the 5 year costco warranty for tv costing $3000+ is pretty insane and I just cannot do i even though it has a 1 year warranty on it...
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Saving 230 on an open box with one year warranty is definitely not worth it, agreed. Black Friday, she's a comin'. So is Boxing Day.
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it's actually an $756.85 CAD savings right now currently at the of $3,826.75 price of all in after tax with 5 year warranty from Costco.. There is no guarantee the tv will be $3000 at Costco on boxing day or black friday either..
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it's actually an $756.85 CAD savings right now currently at the of $3,826.75 price of all in after tax with 5 year warranty from Costco.. There is no guarantee the tv will be $3000 at Costco on boxing day or black friday either..
See them going 33 a lot(Costco and BB). Your right about the potential savings down the road though, anyone's guess. 900f at 45, cheapest I've ever seen.
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See them going 33 a lot(Costco and BB). Your right about the potential savings down the road though, anyone's guess. 900f at 45, cheapest I've ever seen.
I am mentioning the prices after tax.. if i'm spending $4500 before tax.. It would be dumb not to just wait for the LG C9 77 inch to be $5500 at some point next year... The open box sony x850g 85 inch is less than half of that price without me waiting any longer... See what i'm saying..

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All this price talk and infractions just waiting to happen....
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75" X800G is VA panel

https://www.displayspecifications.co...ison/7d31aa746

Above comparison establishes that the X800G is VA panel and the X850G is IPS (confirmed by an ammendment in the rtings review of the X800G)

Given the above and the $500 I can save buying the X800G (and my love of movies in a darkened room) how can I go wrong?

Can someone direct me to a VA vs IPS comparison.
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All this price talk and infractions just waiting to happen....
Right you are, almost forgot.

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https://www.displayspecifications.co...ison/7d31aa746

Above comparison establishes that the X800G is VA panel and the X850G is IPS (confirmed by an ammendment in the rtings review of the X800G)

Given the above and the $500 I can save buying the X800G (and my love of movies in a darkened room) how can I go wrong?

Can someone direct me to a VA vs IPS comparison.
Wouldn't rely on displayspecs if I was you. 850g is a va panel in 85" only, unsure on the 800 series.

What I am sure of is the 850g series is native 120hz refresh, whereas the 800 series is native 60hz. Big deal for me, not everyone though.

Va is better for blacks, IPS has a broader field of view. Keep an eye on the Samsung q70 series, good pricing at times. Fald and va panel, if that's your thing.

You may also want to consider bias lighting.

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The information that you guys have posted is very valueble and I decided to bite the bullet and order the x850g 85 inch which is arriving tomorrow. I remember 1 of the earlier post mentioned to use the same calibration from Rtings site for the x850g which is an IPS panel. Has anyone tried that and did it make a huge difference? Thinking that the calibration on Rtings is meant for the IPS panel, would the VA panel require a different set of calibration? Appreciate any help or recommendations. Thanks guys!
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The information that you guys have posted is very valueble and I decided to bite the bullet and order the x850g 85 inch which is arriving tomorrow. I remember 1 of the earlier post mentioned to use the same calibration from Rtings site for the x850g which is an IPS panel. Has anyone tried that and did it make a huge difference? Thinking that the calibration on Rtings is meant for the IPS panel, would the VA panel require a different set of calibration? Appreciate any help or recommendations. Thanks guys!
Dunno if they would need different, try the rtings and see how the picture looks.. What are your impressions so far? What tv are you coming from??
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400x400 vesa hole location on 85x850g

Hi all,

Decided to go with the 85" 850g since it's such a budget price-per-inch right now. Wanting to get my wall mount up before the TV arrives, but can't seem to find the dimensions from the top or bottom and side(s) of TV to the VESA screw holes. Can anyone help? The online manual doesn't specify and sony online help was clueless.

Thank you!
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Hi all,

Decided to go with the 85" 850g since it's such a budget price-per-inch right now. Wanting to get my wall mount up before the TV arrives, but can't seem to find the dimensions from the top or bottom and side(s) of TV to the VESA screw holes. Can anyone help? The online manual doesn't specify and sony online help was clueless.

Thank you!
Here you go and please post a review with pics
http://sonypremiumhome.com/pdfs/85X850G_Cut_Sheet.pdf
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Here you go and please post a review with pics
THANK YOU curtishd!! I will indeed. Delivery not scheduled until the afternoon of Nov 19.
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This is a review for XBR55X850G which has an IPS panel so it doesn’t apply to the 85’’ set

The good:
-Much better viewing angle compared to XBR55X900F
-Better remote control
-Better operating system. It’s better organized and more fluid
-No dead pixels (previously I have exchanged three XBR55X900F TV sets that had scattered dead pixels in the middle of the screen)

The bad:
-When I connect the external 2TB USB 3.0 drive to the USB 3.0 TV port, it takes about an hour to display the entire content in the media player app. First I thought that this is a onetime indexing process so its fine. Later I realised that the process repeats every time I turn off and turn on TV. It’s ridiculous! My old Sony Bravia KDL-50R550A from 2013 requires 5-10 seconds to access the entire drive. It’s same with my Sony UBP-X800 Blu-Ray player; it takes 5-10 seconds.
Also I still can’t figure it out how can I make a change in the settings to force the media player app to show the external Hard Drive content as a folder structure in alphabetical order. Maybe this will speed up the process (right now all movies are displayed as large icons). I would really appreciate if someone can help me with this.

The ugly:
-Terrible upscaling compared to XBR55X900F. If you watch TV with 1080i or 720 content look elswere. Sony has been advertised as TV brand with the best upscaling capabilities but it seems that this applies just to the high end TVs. The upscaling capabilities of XBR55X850G in best scenario are mediocre.
On the other hand XBR55X900F had a state of the art upscaling.
-Picture quality of XBR55X850G is incomparable with XBR55X900F. The picture quality of XBR55X850G is subpar compared to other TVs in this class. This is especially annoying if you compare Sony pricing with other brands like Samsung, LG, Visio etc. The black contrast wasn’t as bad as described in some other reviews, at least not in my TV set.
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Dunno if they would need different, try the rtings and see how the picture looks.. What are your impressions so far? What tv are you coming from??
My previous tv was a 65 inch Samsung MU7000. Picture quality wise the Sony beats it hands down. I used the calibration settings from Rtings and the results are impressive. First thing I noticed out of the box is how fast the OS is. The below are what I feel are improvements compared to my old tv.

1. The black levels are very good, from a brightly lit room down to dim environment. However when I switch off all the lights, ,I noticed some amounts of clouding at the top left edge (only when testing a full black screen), but when watching normal movies, I dont notice it at all.
2. I like how bright this TV is. I would say this is almost twice as bright as my older tv, so when watching in daytime it is great.
3. Unlike my older tv, I dont really notice any reflections when watching movies during daytime. I have a large floor to ceiling sliding doors about 5 meters to the left of the tv which lets a lot of light in.

Couldn't be happier with my purchase. For a 85 inch tv this would tick all my boxes, unless you are looking for really black (OLED) level tv, and are willing to pay much much more. For the money and performance, this is the tv that I would personally recommend to any one of my mates.
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When I connect the external 2TB USB 3.0 drive to the USB 3.0 TV port, it takes about an hour to display the entire content in the media player app.

Download the VLC app and the problem will be solved.

Also the Sony media player would not play certain files, and VLC solved that too!
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Sony XBR85X850G

Hello all. Just pulled the trigger on the sony xbr85x850g. A little disappointed that( now I'm seeing) most reviews out there are mediocre. But I scored the TV for $2k flat( Black Friday deal) which I think is a good deal.

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Hello all. Just pulled the trigger on the sony xbr85x850g. A little disappointed that( now I'm seeing) most reviews out there are mediocre. But I scored the TV for $2k flat( Black Friday deal) which I think is a good deal.
Most reviews were of smaller sizes with IPS panels and so don't apply to the 85" that has a VA panel.
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VA the reviews I read were for my specific model ...like the RTNGS review and a few others.
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VA the reviews I read were for my specific model ...like the RTNGS review and a few others.
Yeah, so all the models are IPS with the exception of the 85 which is a VA(better blacks, poorer viewing angle). Unfortunately rtings only reviews the IPS variations which have mediocre blacks(important only if you watch in a VERY dark environment).

Congrats on the 85, go big or go home.

Here's a review to the 85 specifically,

https://hdtvsandmore.com/sony-x850g-4k-hdr-tv-review

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Intermittent Flashing

I've been having an issue with intermittent flashing on this TV. At first I thought it was the Apple TV or the HDMI cable, but the flashing (screen goes black for a second) occurs even when watching Youtube TV app on the TV itself. Anyone else experience flashing or know of a cause and solution?
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hey all..got the TV up and mounted. hooked up via 4k HDMI cable to my cable box. use RTNGS website suggested calibration setting but not impressed watching cable 4k channels sucks as ESPN etc. very grainy and pixelated. can anyone help with some suggested settings/calibration info. hope this is not as good as the pic gets. thank you
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I just picked up a 65X850G at Costco on a BF deal. This replaces an old Panny plasma that had reached end of life. So far very pleased with picture.

TV is in a game room for kids, Xbox, Netflix, DTVnon4k, not critical viewing. The refresh rate for games and off access for viewing from pool table seem good. And for the price and seem less integration with the other Sony and Google products we have, seems like the right buy.


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hey all..got the TV up and mounted. hooked up via 4k HDMI cable to my cable box. use RTNGS website suggested calibration setting but not impressed watching cable 4k channels sucks as ESPN etc. very grainy and pixelated. can anyone help with some suggested settings/calibration info. hope this is not as good as the pic gets. thank you
Anyone?? Cant find any settings info for this TV besides CNET & RTNGS. Would think some users here would have something. Thanks.

What the hell is the pixelations around the edges objects? It's horrible. It's weird..like watching the football game the closeups of players don't have the pixel/graininess around the players but when it's not a closeups it's very noticeable. Pic is blotchy at times too. UGH.
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Is there really that much limited feedback on this set?

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Anyone?? Cant find any settings info for this TV besides CNET & RTNGS. Would think some users here would have something. Thanks.

What the hell is the pixelations around the edges objects? It's horrible. It's weird..like watching the football game the closeups of players don't have the pixel/graininess around the players but when it's not a closeups it's very noticeable. Pic is blotchy at times too. UGH.
What is the picture mode and source you are using when you get the pixelations? I sometimes see this when watching Sports and have the Sports picture mode enabled. This is evidence of over-sharpening and can also occur with a severely compressed cable feed.

Try going into setting and turn the sharpening down.

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I can't believe info on this set is so thin on the ground.

I pulled the trigger on an x850g yesterday during the one-day sale. Wife and I have had our eye on this for a couple of months, and this was the push I needed.

Can any more actual owners chime in with their thoughts?

I quickly tired of reading comments from people trashing the x850g and saying how much better the 900f and 950g are. Yes, those two sets have more advanced tech -- but they also cost 50- to 100-percent more than this one.

Every time we've gone to the store to view this set, we've just been blown away by the size and beauty of the image. It was love at first sight.

Granted, the set isn't situated near any others, so comparisons are difficult. It's made the lack of an actual Rtings review even more vexing.

Who else bit on Cyber Monday?
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What is the picture mode and source you are using when you get the pixelations? I sometimes see this when watching Sports and have the Sports picture mode enabled. This is evidence of over-sharpening and can also occur with a severely compressed cable feed.

Try going into setting and turn the sharpening down.
Thanks Cheddar...finally someone with some feedback. I have it set to custom picture mode and HDMI cable feed. Sharpness set to 50.

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Thanks Cheddar...finally someone with some feedback. I have it set to custom picture mode and HDMI cable feed. Sharpness set to 50.
Isn't a sharpness setting of 50 really high? I've only just bought my first 4K set, but with the older HD panels, I'd always heard it said that sharpness should be set to zero.

My own calibrations using the S&M Blu-ray on my main 1080p display dialed me into a sharpness level of 12 (out of 100).

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