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LG 86" UM8070 review?

Has anyone seen a review of the new LG UM80 series? Specifically the 86", 86UM8070AUB, but any review of the um8000 series would be great. Costco has the 86" and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger. I sit 16' feet from the screen so I want to go as big as reasonably possible, but the 85" Sony x900F is more than I really want to spend.
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I would go with a smaller X900f before I bought a Big POS ips LG. Unless you never turn off the lights while watching TV.
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I would go with a smaller X900f before I bought a Big POS ips LG. Unless you never turn off the lights while watching TV.
Ignorance is bliss. My 86" LG IPS panel has terrific PQ in a dark room. I use medialight bias lighting and it is a breathtaking picture.

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I use medialight bias lighting and it is a breathtaking picture.
Like I said, "Unless you never turn off the lights while watching TV" and it appears you don't!!!!
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Well yes I guess the use of the media light does mean it is not dark. You have a point 🙂

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Has anyone seen a review of the new LG UM80 series? Specifically the 86", 86UM8070AUB, but any review of the um8000 series would be great. Costco has the 86" and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger. I sit 16' feet from the screen so I want to go as big as reasonably possible, but the 85" Sony x900F is more than I really want to spend.
The Sony 85XBR850G looks like an interesting alternative. Or the 85XBR850F (from 2018)
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I also tried to see the 86" LG 8070 in person and gave up. I viewed the older 86" 6070 and was not happy with the black levels. It was displayed near a Samsung NU8000 in 82" and the Samsung was a much nicer looking TV. When the 8070 came out I found a local retailer that had them in stock, but nothing on display. They showed me a 65" LG 8600 series TV and said this would be the same picture. The 8600 model looked very good.
Went to another retailer, also showing 1 86" LG UM8070 in stock but not on display. However they told me the picture quality would be similar to other UM series TVs like the 6000 and 7000 series, and not equal to the SM or SK series models.
Having no ability to actually see this 86" model in person, I went with the Sony 85" X850G and I am very happy with the picture quality. Black levels are excellent, and while not as deep as an OLED, it seems much brighter with excellent contrast. My only issue is after 6 weeks of owning it, I had to do a reset to get it up and running again. Normally this would not be a big deal except I also have a Sony X800 UBR player and that thing is a mess. Waiting for a replacement from Sony now
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I also tried to see the 86" LG 8070 in person and gave up. I viewed the older 86" 6070 and was not happy with the black levels. It was displayed near a Samsung NU8000 in 82" and the Samsung was a much nicer looking TV. When the 8070 came out I found a local retailer that had them in stock, but nothing on display. They showed me a 65" LG 8600 series TV and said this would be the same picture. The 8600 model looked very good.
Went to another retailer, also showing 1 86" LG UM8070 in stock but not on display. However they told me the picture quality would be similar to other UM series TVs like the 6000 and 7000 series, and not equal to the SM or SK series models.
Having no ability to actually see this 86" model in person, I went with the Sony 85" X850G and I am very happy with the picture quality. Black levels are excellent, and while not as deep as an OLED, it seems much brighter with excellent contrast. My only issue is after 6 weeks of owning it, I had to do a reset to get it up and running again. Normally this would not be a big deal except I also have a Sony X800 UBR player and that thing is a mess. Waiting for a replacement from Sony now
If I were in the market for a 80+ TV, I'd pick the Sony 85XBR850G as well. Best bang for the buck. I wouldn't worry about having to do a factory reset. Was it after a firmware update by any chance? That's fairly common and shouldn't be a concern.
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Lg 86um8070pua

I do not see any post on this TV. Whats wrong with it? I am concerding buying one but cant find any real reviews.
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I do not see any post on this TV. Whats wrong with it? I am concerding buying one but cant find any real reviews.
Price is really good right now. Costco owners seem to really like it. Professional reviewers probably not so much.

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Can you tell me why and where can I find a real review?
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It's an IPS panel and is going to have terrible dark room performance. Raised black levels and blooming. It's a great deal if you don't care about contrast and black screen uniformity
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I have one on the way. It is replacing my samsung HL67A750.
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It's an IPS panel and is going to have terrible dark room performance. Raised black levels and blooming. It's a great deal if you don't care about contrast and black screen uniformity
is this some kind of code?
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Just wanted to let everyone know, we've bought the 82" UM8070, and it's a VA panel. Very cheap for an 82", and it has excellent contrast. We've only done a few spot checks to make sure the panel is ok, we haven't started testing it fully, so it'll be a little while for the review.
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Just wanted to let everyone know, we've bought the 82" UM8070, and it's a VA panel. Very cheap for an 82", and it has excellent contrast. We've only done a few spot checks to make sure the panel is ok, we haven't started testing it fully, so it'll be a little while for the review.
Man that's a giant screen. One thing I have learned in getting into 4k is that I personally would sacrifice picture quality for size but that's just my opinion. I bought a 55 inch when I needed a minimum of 65. Now I'm paying the price every day.
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I got my Lg 86um8070pua last week and I couldn't be happier. Tivo and Direct TV look great and Netflix 4k even better. I find the blacks are very black and the whites hurt your eyes there so white. Great contrast, I guess Im not as persnickety as some. I couldn't be happier. The difference between real 4k and unconverted is not so big a jump. couldn't believe how sad my old 67a750 looks beside it.
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Just wanted to let everyone know, we've bought the 82" UM8070, and it's a VA panel. Very cheap for an 82", and it has excellent contrast. We've only done a few spot checks to make sure the panel is ok, we haven't started testing it fully, so it'll be a little while for the review.
Could you please post your review when you have a chance? I am interested in this model if it has a VA panel. Thanks in advance.
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Could you please post your review when you have a chance? I am interested in this model if it has a VA panel. Thanks in advance.
I bought the 86" 86UM8070PUA

This is from the LG web site. It says the 86 is IPS and the 82 doesn't say.
86UM8070PUA
PICTURE(PANEL)
Display Type IPS 4K DisplayDisplay
Resolution 4K Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160)
Wide Viewing Angle Yes
(IPS Technology)Backlight
Type Direct

82UM8070PUA
Display Type 4K LCD Display
Display Resolution 4K Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160)
Backlight
Type Direct

PM me for info on how I bought mine discounted.
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I bought the 86" 86UM8070PUA

This is from the LG web site. It says the 86 is IPS and the 82 doesn't say.
86UM8070PUA
PICTURE(PANEL)
Display Type IPS 4K DisplayDisplay
Resolution 4K Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160)
Wide Viewing Angle Yes
(IPS Technology)Backlight
Type Direct

82UM8070PUA
Display Type 4K LCD Display
Display Resolution 4K Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160)
Backlight
Type Direct

PM me for info on how I bought mine discounted.
It says in the description that it's an IPS panel. IPS panels typically have bright colors but cannot deliver a true black. They are fine in a bright room but blacks look dark grey when you view the TV in a dark room. VA panels have better contrast and blacks and OLED panels are the best with deep, dark blacks. "Display Type IPS 4K DisplayDisplay"
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My 86 in a dark room is BLACK, the whites hurt your eyes and I do not see grey. Screen saver on and I see the direct TV loco in white bouncing around in a pure black screen.. If its grey I had to turn down my background leds 50% because it was too bright. I agree that va is supposed to be darker but I couldn't be happier.
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Just wanted to let everyone know, we've bought the 82" UM8070, and it's a VA panel. Very cheap for an 82", and it has excellent contrast. We've only done a few spot checks to make sure the panel is ok, we haven't started testing it fully, so it'll be a little while for the review.
Frankly that would be a pretty big deal. LG advertises both the 82" and 86" as being IPS and the current prices are VERY attractive. There doesn't seem to be any debate that the 86" is a IPS as some stores display them and some reviews are out there already.

But the 82" is basically vaporware in person, given very little display space in the market and an almost scary lack of reviews online. So many folks like me are unwilling to take the risk knowing LG's low to mid level IPS offerings are not good for black levels, some of the mid and higher end IPS ones are just acceptable, but have too many other options at their current price points.

If the 82" is actually a VA panel with good black levels, then it would be basically alone in the current market as an affordable 82" 120Hz VA offering. Would become a VERY attractive option knowing that.

Any update that can be provided would be greatly appreciated.

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Here's what LG says on their website about the 82UM8070PUA panels being IPS and not VA:

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More realistic 4K TV images with IPS 4K TV Display

The IPS 4K TV panel's wide viewing angle keeps you enthralled with spectacular realism — displaying almost 100% color accuracy, even from a 60-degree angle.
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Frankly that would be a pretty big deal. LG advertises both the 82" and 86" as being IPS and the current prices are VERY attractive. There doesn't seem to be any debate that the 86" is a IPS as some stores display them and some reviews are out there already.

But the 82" is basically vaporware in person, given very little display space in the market and an almost scary lack of reviews online. So many folks like me are unwilling to take the risk knowing LG's low to mid level IPS offerings are not good for black levels, some of the mid and higher end IPS ones are just acceptable, but have too many other options at their current price points.

If the 82" is actually a VA panel with good black levels, then it would be basically alone in the current market as an affordable 82" 120Hz VA offering. Would become a VERY attractive option knowing that.

Any update that can be provided would be greatly appreciated.

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Contrast is a bit lower than we expected, at 4173:1.

That alone confirms it's VA, but in case there were any doubts, here's the closeup pixel photo (https://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/...ls-large.jpg):


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Thank you for that post, good info to know.
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Contrast is a bit lower than we expected, at 4173:1.

That alone confirms it's VA, but in case there were any doubts, here's the closeup pixel photo (https://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/...ls-large.jpg):

When you have a chance, can you do a quick review? I am looking to purchase a new TV soon. Thanks.
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When you have a chance, can you do a quick review? I am looking to purchase a new TV soon. Thanks.
We hope to publish our full review Friday, but this may shift to early next week.
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There seems to be 2 different 86" LG's The only difference I cas see is one is WISA ready. Whats that?

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We hope to publish our full review Friday, but this may shift to early next week.


How are u liking it so far? Did u get a chance to publish the review
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How are u liking it so far? Did u get a chance to publish the review
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/um8070
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