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Rtings updated their review on Nov 28 2019 to include that HDMI Forum VRR was tested successfully using an Nvidia GPU to use G-Sync compatible settings.

I'm currently using an AMD 5700 XT for Freesync, but it's good to know that you can currently get a more powerful GPU (e.g. 2080 Ti) from Nvidia and use variable refresh rate.
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I got a deal on this TV on black friday and got it set up over the weekend. I'm using it in a mini-home-theater in my bonus room over the garage.

I haven't set up a full surround sound set yet, so in the interim I'm using an older Samsung soundbar from about 3-4 years ago. The soundbar model is HW-J355.

Confoundingly the sound bar will not connect to the TV via bluetooth no matter what I try, the TV simply does not "see" it. Even more crazy, when I connected via optical cable, the TV still only connects in the most primitive way possible (i.e. won't control volume or power, etc - I have to use the Soundbar's remote for all that).

Anyone have any suggestions?
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I got the 65 inch of this model. The input lag is great. Do you guys think next years model will do 120fps with the new consoles? Will 120fps will be worth the upgrade?
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I got the 65 inch of this model. The input lag is great. Do you guys think next years model will do 120fps with the new consoles? Will 120fps will be worth the upgrade?
For 4K? Probably not. 120fps at 4K will be reserved for the QLEDs.
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I bought the 75" model from Costco. I love it except there is a flashlight effect in the top right corner that is driving me crazy. Anytime anything dark is in that corner that spot is super noticeable. Not acceptable in my opinion. I want to exchange it but I'm concerned another one may have the same issue. Can anyone who has the RU8000 75" speak to flashlight effect issues?
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I bought the 75" model from Costco. I love it except there is a flashlight effect in the top right corner that is driving me crazy. Anytime anything dark is in that corner that spot is super noticeable. Not acceptable in my opinion. I want to exchange it but I'm concerned another one may have the same issue. Can anyone who has the RU8000 75" speak to flashlight effect issues?
It's an edge-lit display.

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I bought the 75" model from Costco. I love it except there is a flashlight effect in the top right corner that is driving me crazy. Anytime anything dark is in that corner that spot is super noticeable. Not acceptable in my opinion. I want to exchange it but I'm concerned another one may have the same issue. Can anyone who has the RU8000 75" speak to flashlight effect issues?
I have zero issues with my 65 inch. It has the best contrast and uniformity of any LED I've owned. I saw the same movie you saw and it's uniformly black around the end credits. Costco is one of the best places to return TV's so you'd be foolish not to return it.
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Question Samsung 75RU8000 Grey Uniformity

Hello,

I have recently purchased a Samsung 75RU8000. I've been watching a bit of hockey, and think I am noticing some banding / DSE, and am trying to figure out if its bad enough to consider exchanging, or if this is fairly normal and acceptable.

I've attached a picture of a 5% grey test image. In person, it doesn't quite look like that; I don't really notice any variance in person with that image, but the photo seems to show it.

Any thoughts?

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I have recently purchased a Samsung 75RU8000. I've been watching a bit of hockey, and think I am noticing some banding / DSE, and am trying to figure out if its bad enough to consider exchanging, or if this is fairly normal and acceptable.
You're saying you think you notice it? Either you see it or you don't. Hockey is the toughest test for both DSE and banding. If you're not sure you're actually seeing it there, you won't be able to notice it anywhere else.

Your edge lit TV isn't as prone to noticeable DSE as a direct lit or FALD TV is anyway. Banding happens at some level on all LCDs if you test for it, but you usually don't notice it in actual content.

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I've attached a picture of a 5% grey test image. In person, it doesn't quite look like that; I don't really notice any variance in person with that image, but the photo seems to show it.
If you can't see it, it isn't problematic. What is a problem for many is testing for something even though they don't see it in normal viewing, and then being unable to unsee it.
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I think you are misinterpreting what I'm saying. I notice "something" - I'm just not sure it's DSE. I've only seen it in hockey, typically during panning across the ice (the faster the pan, the more noticeable). I suspect based on my reading, this is DSE, and yes I can understand why hockey would be the toughest test. What I'm trying to figure out is whether my panel is an outlier with regards to DSE, and I should try to play the lottery again, or am I seeing what's "expected" from my model.

Know what I mean?
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Know what I mean?
I can't know because you haven't shown any evidence of the actual DSE, only that 5% gray screen you said "doesn't quite look like that". DSE looks more like dirty water spots or dirt on the screen. When the camera pans when watching hockey, those spots stay in place and don't move with the puck. Banding is a whole different animal that some notice more than others.

Did you run the
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But is sounds as if it will bother you if you don't do something, so maybe exchange your set for another one. As I said, it seems DSE is less common/severe in edge lit panels so the chances of getting a good one should be in your favor. I have two edge lit Samsungs, and don't notice DSE or banding in either. But I also never went looking for it.

Good luck!
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Yeah I ran that test last night. It doesn't look as bad in that test as an actual hockey game. I did some reading and think it is array banding, not DSE; a couple of dark vertical lines. I turned on automotion plus while watching hockey and it seems to help, but still noticeable to me at least (maybe I'm sensitive to this). We had an older 55" LG LCD (from around 2007) that I also noticed the same type of banding on it during hockey. I'll try to get a better picture of a grey test; would be nice to compare to what other owners of this panel are seeing.

BTW - thanks for moving my post into the owner's thread; I hadn't seen this one.
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I bought the 75" model from Costco. I love it except there is a flashlight effect in the top right corner that is driving me crazy. Anytime anything dark is in that corner that spot is super noticeable. Not acceptable in my opinion. I want to exchange it but I'm concerned another one may have the same issue. Can anyone who has the RU8000 75" speak to flashlight effect issues?
I have the 75RU8000 and I have not noticed anything like this; see my other posts in this thread about the issues I do see though; I'd be interested to know if you have anything similar.
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Attached 2 better grey images showing the issues. I pointed at the lines which are most noticeable when watching content. Curious to see what other owners see (especially on the 65" or 75").
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I've found an issue with the 1335 firmware. Cable boxes like the Xfinity Comcast boxes have issues being detected over HDMI so the box *sometimes* doesn't send a signal to the TV unless you turn the box off and on again or disconnect the HDMI cable and reconnect it again (hotplugging). Every other source like streaming boxes have no issue sending a signal to the TV.

Q70 owners are also experiencing this and we share the same firmware, so it's definitely a firmware bug. If anybody else is experiencing this, we need to wait for another firmware update to resolve it.
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I've found an issue with the 1335 firmware. Cable boxes like the Xfinity Comcast boxes have issues being detected over HDMI so the box *sometimes* doesn't send a signal to the TV unless you turn the box off and on again or disconnect the HDMI cable and reconnect it again (hotplugging). Every other source like streaming boxes have no issue sending a signal to the TV.

Q70 owners are also experiencing this and we share the same firmware, so it's definitely a firmware bug. If anybody else is experiencing this, we need to wait for another firmware update to resolve it.
I haven't run into this with my Xfinity box. Don't know if it's a factor or not but it is a new box I got just before the TV about 2 months ago. It's also the smaller, secondary box as the main unit is on another TV.
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I haven't run into this with my Xfinity box. Don't know if it's a factor or not but it is a new box I got just before the TV about 2 months ago. It's also the smaller, secondary box as the main unit is on another TV.
It's the 4K DVR box. The other person I found with the same issue also has a DVR, from Spectrum.
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It's the 4K DVR box. The other person I found with the same issue also has a DVR, from Spectrum.
OK - it's the XiD-P companion box on this TV for me.
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Anyone have trouble with this tv coming on by itself? When i turn it off sometimes it comes back on a min later.
i do too. any fix?

also my eyes are not used to in the beginning looking at the tv from 12ft away.
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i do too. any fix?

also my eyes are not used to in the beginning looking at the tv from 12ft away.
I occasionally see this too, after shutting it off it comes right back on. I just turn it off again. It's a firmware bug reported by others, no fix.
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I occasionally see this too, after shutting it off it comes right back on. I just turn it off again. It's a firmware bug reported by others, no fix.
anyone tried these and see if its a fix except #1 ?

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/t...g/TSG01108742/
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anyone tried these and see if its a fix except #1 ?

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/t...g/TSG01108742/
I'm on the new firmware, tried the other 2 suggestions. No change. The comes-back-on issue is so occasional and so easily addressed by just turning it off again that it doesn't bother me anymore.
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Question Is Samsung RU 8000 FALD?

Is the Samsung RU 8000 FALD? I don't read it in the specs but it may be listed as some "technology" name other than FALD. Thanks. Jack in Illinois.
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Is the Samsung RU 8000 FALD? I don't read it in the specs but it may be listed as some "technology" name other than FALD. Thanks. Jack in Illinois.
No.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ru8000
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Also, it's edge-lit, as is Samsung RU7100, which might be better value.

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i find that the dynamic setting for picture is too bright at night...anyone adjust this setting when watching at night?
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i find that the dynamic setting for picture is too bright at night...anyone adjust this setting when watching at night?
Yes, Dynamic makes the TV as bright as it can be. I liked Dynamic at first but the colors were too exaggerated and the CE dimming was annoying. I just go with Movie mode and its bright enough with no CE dimming and accurate colors. I also found that setting contrast enhancer to "low" in Movie mode made the picture about as bright as it was with Dynamic.
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Yes, Dynamic makes the TV as bright as it can be. I liked Dynamic at first but the colors were too exaggerated and the CE dimming was annoying. I just go with Movie mode and its bright enough with no CE dimming and accurate colors. I also found that setting contrast enhancer to "low" in Movie mode made the picture about as bright as it was with Dynamic.

thanks Diocletian for your comments. Also what should i change if i want to use dynamic settings but i want less bright to my eyes at night?
also are you experience the sound not as loud...i chose amplify stilll its not as loud as i old TV.
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thanks Diocletian for your comments. Also what should i change if i want to use dynamic settings but i want less bright to my eyes at night?
also are you experience the sound not as loud...i chose amplify stilll its not as loud as i old TV.
Turn down the backlight setting to whatever works for your eyes.

As for sound, I find that turning on the auto volume setting + amplify mode = the highest possible volume.
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