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Anyone have a take on whether the quantum dots (in the M series versus the V) are worth the $150 (V series on sale) difference between the 43" models? I plan to use the it exclusively for gaming.

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How much of your gaming is in HDR? Outside of that, QD will make virtually no difference whatsoever. Both sets will fully cover the SDR color space.
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Anyone have a take on whether the quantum dots (in the M series versus the V) are worth the $150 (V series on sale) difference between the 43" models? I plan to use the it exclusively for gaming.
Are you in a hurry to get either? I assume that the 43" M should eventually go on sale as the 50" has the same price right now.


I personally think the V is probably more than acceptable especially for the price (not sure how much a WCG is going to do at the same brightness; I don't think it will look >50% better). The M does have 2 more zones (I assume the M is a 4x3 grid, while the V is 5x2 [12 vs 10 zones per Rtings]?). I am currently waiting for the M to go on sale to make a call on which one to get for my parents.


Kind of hard to tell which has better lag/brightness/etc as Rtings measured the 600-nit variant of the M series and the non-FALD version of the V series (for some reason the lower [smaller] tier V series seem to have FALD). Brightness seems to be the biggest negative for the V series as far as I can tell, but the 43" V has the same vizio-provided brightness number (400 nits for both). The one Rtings reviewed does not have a 'nits' number in its description. Not sure why they have 2 product stacks for both the M and V series TVs...

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Kind of hard to tell which has better lag/brightness/etc as Rtings measured the 600-nit variant of the M series and the non-FALD version of the V series (for some reason the lower [smaller] tier V series seem to have FALD).
Yep- thats why I'm here! Brightness isn't that big of a deal. It will be in a blacked out basement. I'm probably just going to snag the V series. Thanks for the input!

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I ordered the 43 M to replace my E43 which will go to the bedroom. The color should be a lot better in HDR. I wish I could buy a larger size but I would have to dismantle my whole entertainment setup . My take on the cost is most places will refund the price difference if the price goes down during the return period some places are 15 days some are 90.
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The M437-G0 is in my opinion a big upgrade over last years E43-F1. HDR colors are much better even standard tv channels look better to me there seems to better contrast.
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Is HDR color just on 4k BD disk. I have the m65 8 G1 and been streaming 4k stuff from you tube and Amazon and it looks great ' but i do not think it has HDR color. So I assume one needs a 4K BD player and UHD disk. I do not play games also. Thanks
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Is HDR color just on 4k BD disk. I have the m65 8 G1 and been streaming 4k stuff from you tube and Amazon and it looks great ' but i do not think it has HDR color. So I assume one needs a 4K BD player and UHD disk. I do not play games also. Thanks
It just needs to be HDR content; 4K content does not necessarily mean that it is HDR (and possibly vice-versa, though for the time being, I am pretty sure most HDR content is 4K as well).
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Just came from Costco and saw that the Vizio 55 M557 is at a good price. How do I know if that is a 2018 or 2019 model. Looked great, with DV and HDR10.
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M557 is a 2019 model, but it's the lower spec version. You want an M558 if you can swing it, but Costco doesn't sell it.
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The M437-G0 is in my opinion a big upgrade over last years E43-F1. HDR colors are much better even standard tv channels look better to me there seems to better contrast.

All good with the 43? Been thinking about getting my tv hating sis one. She's rocking a 39 inch RCA I bought her 10 years ago and it's time. Anyone know why Amazon doesn't have the 43?

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All good with the 43? Been thinking about getting my tv hating sis one. She's rocking a 39 inch RCA I bought her 10 years ago and it's time. Anyone know why Amazon doesn't have the 43?
Can anyone comment on the M437-G0, as far as brightness? Considering this for my kitchen, and daytime viewing would be a pretty bright environment.


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Thanks @WRXpilot , I see the M558 @ best buy, about 170 more, would I notice that much a difference? I thought that the M557 looked great, but that was in store, and Costco programming.
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Thanks @WRXpilot , I see the M558 @ best buy, about 170 more, would I notice that much a difference? I thought that the M557 looked great, but that was in store, and Costco programming.
There will be a considerable difference. The 55” M557 has 16 dimming zones and is advertised at 400 nits of brightness. The 55” M558 has 90 dimming zones and is advertised at 600 nits of brightness.

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Thanks @sk373. Hoping at some time I could see the 2 side by side. I will look more at the M558 up close.
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All good with the 43? Been thinking about getting my tv hating sis one. She's rocking a 39 inch RCA I bought her 10 years ago and it's time. Anyone know why Amazon doesn't have the 43?
Yes I really like this TV, colors are much better, contrast is better and the DV - HDR10 works a little different now. DV at normal settings is brighter than HDR 10 . For DV the only settings I changed are color I moved it up to 63 and backlight I moved up to 51,I use calibrated. I haven't tweaked HDR 10 yet as I have Sony Blu-Ray players and watch everything with DV turned on. The Quantum color is also noticeable in SDR, it's just richer than the non wide color gamut set. The set is plenty bright for me but that's a personal preference thing.
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0hwell - you don't happen to have a PC hooked up to your M437-G0?



I'm considering getting one to replace two old 24" TN panels that I use in my office. There may be occasions where there is a window streaming video next to a browser or Word doc window and I was wondering how well the text looks when the TV is in HDR mode (the whole 4:4:4 in SDR, but not in HDR due to only HDMI 2.0 connection BW issue).

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0hwell - you don't happen to have a PC hooked up to your M437-G0?



I'm considering getting one to replace two old 24" TN panels that I use in my office. There may be occasions where there is a window streaming video next to a browser or Word doc window and I was wondering how well the text looks when the TV is in HDR mode (the whole 4:4:4 in SDR, but not in HDR due to only HDMI 2.0 connection BW issue).
The text looked fine to me I streamed a you tube HDR video and the text in the browser around it looked normal to me. I run the hookup to my computer thru HDMI and it does give you the option to set that input to chroma 4-4-4. I ran it at the native resolution but I normally just keep the computer feed to my tv set at 1080, as my Hauppauge tuner stutters a little when I have it set to 4k. I record shows on the computer and play them back on the tv quite often.
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thanks! I"m really curious as to what happens at 2160p...

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I ran it at the native resolution but I normally just keep the computer feed to my tv set at 1080, as my Hauppauge tuner stutters a little when I have it set to 4k.
Ah - missed that bit the first time I read your post.

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Ah - missed that bit the first time I read your post.
Steve I ran the HDR text test at both 2160 and 1080 couldn't really tell the difference I did check the info on my Vizio and even though when I have the computer output set to 1080 for the Vizio the info button reports the TV is getting 2160 so it's getting upscaled somewhere. My AV receiver is set to direct passthrough for video so it's a bit of a mystery to me. My Hauppauge tuner still shows a little stutter when I set the output to the tv to 2160 and I transfer it to that screen but the stutter disappears when I set the tv output to 1080 even though the tv thinks its still getting a 2160 picture.
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Vizio is sending a display unit to my local Best Buy. so I'll have a chance to stare/play with it this weekend...as much as I can with a wall unit, anyway.

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The M437-G0 is in my opinion a big upgrade over last years E43-F1. HDR colors are much better even standard tv channels look better to me there seems to better contrast.
How is the brightness on it? Considering it for my kitchen/dining room, and it's a pretty bright room in the day.
What's the difference between the M437-G0 and the M437-G1 ?


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How is the brightness on it? Considering it for my kitchen/dining room, and it's a pretty bright room in the day.
What's the difference between the M437-G0 and the M437-G1 ?


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The brightness is okay to me I have it in my living room with a lot of light through the windows during the day. The G1- G0 thing from what I have read is just a design thing . If you look at pictures of the back of the TV's there is a slight difference. I watch it in Calibrated mode with the backlight at 100% and its okay for SDR, I've seen reviews where some people with the m8's actually turn the backlight down I wouldn't turn it down on the m7.

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The brightness is okay to me I have it in my living room with a lot of light through the windows during the day. The G1- G0 thing from what I have read is just a design thing . If you look at pictures of the back of the TV's there is a slight difference. I watch it in Calibrated mode with the backlight at 100% and its okay for SDR, I've seen reviews where some people with the m8's actually turn the backlight down I wouldn't turn it down on the m7.
Ok thanks! I think this should be ok then, for my location. We're finally replacing a small CRT on the counter, with a real TV, haha, so I imagine I won't nitpick too much. It will go on a wall, in a brighter part of the dining area, but the romm can be made darker by closing curtains/blinds, so I think I'll be ok. Not as many options on "smaller" sets.
We have both the Sony XBR-55X900E, and Vizio E50-F2, Sony in the living room, and it does a good job, as that room can get bright. The Vizio is noticeably less bright, bit it's also in the bedroom, so it's fine.
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Vizio M series muting

Currently have an 2017 M55E0 and considering a 2019 M... Problem I've encountered is that my M will not mute the audio out, either optical or 3.5 when feeding a bluetooth transmitter for my new hearing aids. I can always mute the TV and Vizio 3561-E6 soundbar no matter what the audio feed is but the feed to the BT transmitter is always active. I've tried every combinationo of audio cable hookup conceivable and TV audio settings too boot. Before I upgrade to a 2019 M I need to know that the various audio outs can be muted.

BTW, another issue is I tried to use a passive optical splitter to feed both the BT transmitter and SB. The transmitter works well but the SB dies. It is obvious to me that the splitter reduces the output brightness I assume below levels needed by the soundbar. Perhaps I need a powered splitter??
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Does this line of Vizios, specifically the M437 G0, have timer on/off functionality?

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Does this line of Vizios, specifically the M437 G0, have timer on/off functionality?
If anyone would be kind enough to tell me the actual height and width of the M437-G0, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Has anyone used 43inch M Quantum series as a monitor? I've been using Sony X800D in the past 3 years as my main monitor for coding, and last week, me and my partner hit the bottom of the screen with bed frame while cleaning. Physically, the panel doesn't seem to be damaged. But the bottom area has horizontal color band showing up when I tune to a channel or use it as a monitor. So I'm thinking about replacing that with Vizio. My main concerns are response time and clarity of text. I appreciate much if you guys could share your experience with Vizio.
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I just picked up the M557-G0 from Sam's Club as it was on sale and I wanted a couple of cheap TVs for a sports media room. Couple of issues I'm having:
  • The wifi seems to only want to connect 802.11ng (2.4ghz) and not 802.11ac (5ghz). Has anyone else had this issue?
  • I can't get airplay to work. Whenever I try to airplay to the device from my Mac, iPad or iPhone all I get is the spinning circle on the TV but never any video. Has anyone gotten airplay to work successfully?
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