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Shades228 05-22-2019 11:50 AM

2019 Vizio M Series Owners Thread (No Price Talk)
 
Pre ordered the M55 G1 since the P is no longer available in 55". Just needed a replacement TV for a 2008 Sharp Aquos. I pick it up on Sunday and will have it calibrated on 6/10. Will post initial thoughts and impressions on Sunday.

Shades228 05-26-2019 02:20 PM

So the tv came in early and I’ve had it up for 2 days. So far I’m very happy with it. From a regular viewing of 1080 and 4K I’m very happy with the picture. There was minimal grey banding on a couple setup screens. Nothing that made me concerned. Overall the HDR and DV content has been great. The calibrated and calibrated dark are probably close enough for the majority of people.


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Geickel 05-30-2019 06:37 AM

Waiting for the 43” M to be released. Wanting to compare it to the 43” V with local dimming. The only differences I can tell are a couple more dimming zones, quantum color, 360 clear action (vs. 180 on the V), and 1 more HDMI port. Curious to see if that hundred dollar difference is worth it. Anybody have any info on when the 43” will be released?

WRXpilot 05-30-2019 11:15 AM

Does the TV have the app for YouTube TV (not just plain YouTube) pre-loaded? Looking to cut cable this summer, so I'm curious what's built in vs. only works via casting for the 2019 Vizios.

thorr 05-30-2019 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Geickel (Post 58117286)
Waiting for the 43” M to be released. Wanting to compare it to the 43” V with local dimming. The only differences I can tell are a couple more dimming zones, quantum color, 360 clear action (vs. 180 on the V), and 1 more HDMI port. Curious to see if that hundred dollar difference is worth it. Anybody have any info on when the 43” will be released?


I also am waiting for the 43" M. I am considering using it for my PC monitor. I currently have a 30" 2560x1600 display that it would replace. My older computer with a Nvidia GTX 1070 is fast enough to play Overwatch on my current display, but I am wondering how it would perform on the Vizio. Most likely I would run the Overwatch game at 2560x1440 and I am wondering if that would introduce any lag during the down-res conversion. Most of the rest of the time I would run it at 4K and also try out Ultra HD blu-ray on it via my Xbox One S.

Diocletian 05-30-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WRXpilot (Post 58118740)
Does the TV have the app for YouTube TV (not just plain YouTube) pre-loaded? Looking to cut cable this summer, so I'm curious what's built in vs. only works via casting for the 2019 Vizios.

Don't bother using Vizios for anything but their PQ/dollar value. Just add the latest Roku to them and Youtube and most of your needs are reliably taken care of. Add FireTV for any Android apps you need.

Shades228 05-30-2019 04:51 PM

2019 Vizio M Series Owners Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WRXpilot (Post 58118740)
Does the TV have the app for YouTube TV (not just plain YouTube) pre-loaded? Looking to cut cable this summer, so I'm curious what's built in vs. only works via casting for the 2019 Vizios.



No YouTube or YouTube TV app. It’s cast only as of now.

I also don’t use the tv apps as it’s slower and I have an AppleTV and Xbox One X that are better.
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Geickel 05-30-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Diocletian (Post 58120182)
Don't bother using Vizios for anything but their PQ/dollar value. Just add the latest Roku to them and Youtube and most of your needs are reliably taken care of. Add FireTV for any Android apps you need.

I agree. If TCL made their 6-series in a 40 or 43 inch, I would be taking that route. I do currently have the V435 (non-local dimming) that I bought to test. I am part of the Apple Airplay 2 Beta, and I like the functionality. If you are an Apple user, there’s some promise here. There ARE a few bugs, but it’s still in beta.

I have the V436 on order. Vizio claims “ultrabright 400“ and 10 zones of local dimming. I plan on doing some testing, and maybe some videos, between the 435 and 436 . But I’m really waiting for the M437 so I can compare the performance between the M and V. The main differences I can find are quantum color, 2 more dimming zones, an extra HDMI port, and Clear Action 360 (vs 180) on the M. I want to find out if it’s worth the extra hundred dollars for me. Those specs are from the 50 inch (except that the 50” has 16 dimming zones, instead of the 12 on the 43”), as Vizio doesn’t have the 43 listed on their site yet, so I’m only assuming they will be the same for the 43. I’m sure there are other technical differences that are listed, but I don’t know what they are.

Geickel 05-30-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thorr (Post 58120068)
I also am waiting for the 43" M. I am considering using it for my PC monitor. I currently have a 30" 2560x1600 display that it would replace. My older computer with a Nvidia GTX 1070 is fast enough to play Overwatch on my current display, but I am wondering how it would perform on the Vizio. Most likely I would run the Overwatch game at 2560x1440 and I am wondering if that would introduce any lag during the down-res conversion. Most of the rest of the time I would run it at 4K and also try out Ultra HD blu-ray on it via my Xbox One S.

I’m currently upgrading from a 32 inch Panasonic from 2009. My plan is to use this Vizio for our main display, and move the 32 inch over for my wife to use for her medical transcription; then I’ll wait a year or two to purchase a 65 inch of whatever is the best PQ value at the time, and move the Vizio over to use as the PC monitor.

Shades228 05-30-2019 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Geickel (Post 58120386)
I agree. If TCL made their 6-series in a 40 or 43 inch, I would be taking that route. I do currently have the V435 (non-local dimming) that I bought to test. I am part of the Apple Airplay 2 Beta, and I like the functionality. If you are an Apple user, there’s some promise here. There ARE a few bugs, but it’s still in beta.

I have the V436 on order. Vizio claims “ultrabright 400“ and 10 zones of local dimming. I plan on doing some testing, and maybe some videos, between the 435 and 436 . But I’m really waiting for the M437 so I can compare the performance between the M and V. The main differences I can find are quantum color, 2 more dimming zones, an extra HDMI port, and Clear Action 360 (vs 180) on the M. I want to find out if it’s worth the extra hundred dollars for me. Those specs are from the 50 inch, as Vizio doesn’t have the 43 listed on their site yet, so I’m only assuming they will be the same for the 43. I’m sure there are other technical differences that are listed, but I don’t know what they are.



The M437 G1 has 12 dimming zones and 400nits. The M507 G1 has 16.


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Geickel 05-31-2019 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shades228 (Post 58121488)
The M437 G1 has 12 dimming zones and 400nits. The M507 G1 has 16.


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That’s RIGHT! I misspoke. I’ve edited to correct my mistake. Thanks!

Shades228 05-31-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Geickel (Post 58121886)
That’s RIGHT! I misspoke. I’ve edited to correct my mistake. Thanks!



No worries I just didn’t want you to be upset if you didn’t know it was less.

Also both the M and the V have 60hz native panels so I don’t know if motion blur will be much different on them really. I think we’ll see a larger reduction in color gamut and processing than anything.


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Geickel 05-31-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shades228 (Post 58123440)
No worries I just didn’t want you to be upset if you didn’t know it was less.

Also both the M and the V have 60hz native panels so I don’t know if motion blur will be much different on them really. I think we’ll see a larger reduction in color gamut and processing than anything.


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Agreed. I hate washed out blacks, so the local dimming is a must for me. I’m hoping it’ll be decent on both, despite the small number of zones. I’m not sure how much of a difference the quantum dots will make to me, so I’m eager to check it out. By the way, how are the black levels on your 55”? And is it the M7 or M8 model?

Shades228 05-31-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Geickel (Post 58124136)
Agreed. I hate washed out blacks, so the local dimming is a must for me. I’m hoping it’ll be decent on both, despite the small number of zones. I’m not sure how much of a difference the quantum dots will make to me, so I’m eager to check it out. By the way, how are the black levels on your 55”? And is it the M7 or M8 model?



I got the M8 version since it’s the closest you can get to the P series if you want a 55”.


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clarence2society 05-31-2019 06:46 PM

so i tried startign a thread but no one is talking on it... im in market for a new tv for my bedroom and i already am spoiled by my pq65 in my living room and im thinking maybe get a p55 for my room or the new version the m558 g1 but i dunno if the price diff is worth it or what and im looking for experience from ppl who have compaared and or used both or one or the other... thanks guys

Shades228 05-31-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by clarence2society (Post 58125534)
so i tried startign a thread but no one is talking on it... im in market for a new tv for my bedroom and i already am spoiled by my pq65 in my living room and im thinking maybe get a p55 for my room or the new version the m558 g1 but i dunno if the price diff is worth it or what and im looking for experience from ppl who have compaared and or used both or one or the other... thanks guys



So far the M558 is a solid TV. There’s tons of threads about 2018 models so I’d just read up on those. The 2019 are so new that you’re really taking a “gamble” right now. I say gamble because overall I think most TVs in the same range will be interchangeable in quality overall. So far the M558 has been a great bedroom tv even during the day with a window directly across.


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Ice Cold 06-01-2019 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shades228 (Post 58125922)
So far the M558 is a solid TV. There’s tons of threads about 2018 models so I’d just read up on those. The 2019 are so new that you’re really taking a “gamble” right now. I say gamble because overall I think most TVs in the same range will be interchangeable in quality overall. So far the M558 has been a great bedroom tv even during the day with a window directly across.


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Could be, for the same $799 the Hisense H9F is better over the M558 from Vizio.
Hisense is delivering more local dimming zones 132 vs 90 on Vizio, a true native 120Hz Panel not 60Hz like Vizio and a much smoother faster Interface, and the same Quantum Dots.

Diocletian 06-01-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice Cold (Post 58126340)
Could be, for the same $799 the Hisense H9F is better over the M558 from Vizio.
Hisense is delivering more local dimming zones 132 vs 90 on Vizio, a true native 120Hz Panel not 60Hz like Vizio and a much smoother faster Interface, and the same Quantum Dots.

Yeah, but what's HiSense's reliability record so far? Even TCL has been known to have a panel lottery on their highest-end sets, so I can only imagine what people can expect from HiSense TVs.

Shades228 06-01-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice Cold (Post 58126340)
Could be, for the same $799 the Hisense H9F is better over the M558 from Vizio.

Hisense is delivering more local dimming zones 132 vs 90 on Vizio, a true native 120Hz Panel not 60Hz like Vizio and a much smoother faster Interface, and the same Quantum Dots.



There are a lot of variables that can go into it for sure. Personally 120hz on a 4K tv is a future proof thing for pc gamers. Even the next gen consoles will be targeting 60fps on 4K.

So if their color correction or FALD isn’t done right it could be worse. That’s the things with tv purchasing are specs are a good starting point for discussions but until they’re in the field row awhile it’s just a gamble on “best for money”.


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clarence2society 06-03-2019 11:51 AM

so i love my pq like crazy and i posted on this last week btu no replies so id love to hear from you guys who have see n and experienced these models.....

i need a 55 inch for my bedroom and ican get 2 open box deals at a steal.. one is sk9000 and other is nu8000

i lvoe the picture onthe sm9000 lg i havent seen the nu8000 perform just bets buy lame commerical i nstore...

i can get a the sk9000 which is same pic quality as the sm9000 and i love the picture from what i have seen on the sm9000.. so im leanin toward that or p55 or m558

can anyone tell me what they think of the m558 compared to the sk or sm9000 please id really liek to hear hoenst and experienced opinions on this... i wanna go to the store today and make my final decision

hjames19 06-06-2019 08:26 AM

Has anyone found any reviews on the P and M Quantum Series yet?


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WRXpilot 06-06-2019 08:35 AM

I don't think these are widely available right now, and Vizio is clearly pushing the high-end PQX series as it's promotional focus at the moment.


I saw a pile of the lower-spec M557-G0 and V-series at Costco last weekend, but I'm a lot less interested in them than the Mxx8-G1 or P659-G1, which I've not seen anywhere yet. RTings hasn't bought one yet, though it's on their poll and CNET is radio silence, so it appears we're at least a few weeks away from serious reviews on these...

hjames19 06-06-2019 08:38 AM

I saw the lower end M series at Walmart last weekend. I haven’t seen any of the higher end models on display anywhere. My brother just bought the M558-G1 and should be getting to delivered today or tomorrow. I’m waiting on reviews before I make a purchase on either of those. He was in need of a TV and couldn’t wait on reviews since his old one died.


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Diocletian 06-09-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hjames19 (Post 58148602)
I saw the lower end M series at Walmart last weekend. I haven’t seen any of the higher end models on display anywhere. My brother just bought the M558-G1 and should be getting to delivered today or tomorrow. I’m waiting on reviews before I make a purchase on either of those. He was in need of a TV and couldn’t wait on reviews since his old one died.

If you get to take a look at your brother's set, could you let us know your thoughts on it? I am pretty curious about this set.

hjames19 06-09-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Diocletian (Post 58159678)
If you get to take a look at your brother's set, could you let us know your thoughts on it? I am pretty curious about this set.



Yeah I will. It isn’t calibrated. Trying to figure out what colorimeter to get. I think I’m going to try the Colormunki.

So far he really enjoys it and says the picture looks great. He also didn’t notice the input lag that a YouTube reviewer said he noticed that was posted in another thread here.


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rossi46 06-09-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Geickel (Post 58117286)
Waiting for the 43” M to be released. Wanting to compare it to the 43” V with local dimming. The only differences I can tell are a couple more dimming zones, quantum color, 360 clear action (vs. 180 on the V), and 1 more HDMI port. Curious to see if that hundred dollar difference is worth it. Anybody have any info on when the 43” will be released?

Same here! This will be for the bedroom.

Looking forward to reviews, assuming it’s actually released soon :)

Shades228 06-11-2019 07:10 PM

Calibration done. Out of there box as I said the calibrated default isn’t that bad. The game mode was also very close. The black levels were spot on with both preset and the contrast was the largest adjustment. After all the colors were dialed in it looks great. The 558-G1 is a really great tv. I’m very impressed with it. Once the usual price drop hits its a no brained unless some other manufacturer really steps up I think this will be the best 55” for the $ in 2019.


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Dravgis 06-12-2019 09:53 AM

New review from Tom's Guide!
 
Can't post links yet but it looks like it's starting to trickle in. Can maybe make a decision between the 2019 55" M-Series or 2018 55" P-Series.

Does anyone think they can help with a comparison? 2018 seems to be a bit brighter but not sure if the updates on the 2019 M-Series makes up for it.

Shades228 06-12-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dravgis (Post 58172984)
Can't post links yet but it looks like it's starting to trickle in. Can maybe make a decision between the 2019 55" M-Series or 2018 55" P-Series.



Does anyone think they can help with a comparison? 2018 seems to be a bit brighter but not sure if the updates on the 2019 M-Series makes up for it.



I think the 2018 models were almost a step back. I think they thought they could get the software to compensate for less zones and it didn’t work out.

I’m also beginning to look at brightness as a contrast number for marketing terms. None of my TVs have the backlit at full even for day watching. Everyone has different preferences and scenarios.

For an 18 model I think TCL 6 series still wins and with sales to move old stock you may jump up in brands to get something even better.


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sfsilicon 06-12-2019 05:31 PM

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Thanks for starting this thread. Was at my local Costco in Santa Clara today. Saw the 55" M series G0 model for the 1st time. Took some pictures.


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