Originally Posted by VA_DaveB
So nobody cares about banding? Banding, IMO, is one of the most annoying characteristics of cheap LCDs. Quoting Rtings:
"There is noticeable banding in all shades, but it is most noticeable in shades of gray. Unfortunately, there is no smooth gradation feature on this TV."
Plus there's noticeable vignetting and dirty screen effect, very slow response time, poorly functioning optional motion interpolation, and bad viewing angles even for a VA panel. Regarding the motion interpolation, Rtings wrote:
"the motion interpolation feature doesn't work very well, as it constantly stopped interpolating after a few seconds, resulting in jumpy motion."
VA_DaveB, I did notice that bit about the banding. I've not had a ton of experience with various different types of TVs so I'm not sure if I'd particularly notice that or not, could be an issue though.
On your other points though: vignetting doesn't really bother me much, and it looks like it's about on par with the vignetting on the R617 anyway; DSE is better/less on H8F than R617, and gray uniformity is actually better; and poor viewing angles are almost the same as R617 (which, for the record, I have the P607, which has even worse viewing angles, and it doesn't bother me at all, even though we frequently watch the TV off-angle from the dinner table). The poor motion interpolation is unfortunate, but doesn't matter to me as I wouldn't use it, and the slow response time is a bummer. Overall it's just a matter of tradeoffs with R617, which, for the record, used to be a more expensive TV when it launched, and even now is still somewhat more than H8F. I have seen a couple comments regarding the H8F having really bad color banding when in Game Mode, which if true would be a pretty big issue for me, but it could also be a bug that will get fixed, along with motion interpolation stopping intermittently.
To me, all the shortcomings seem pretty fair for a $500 TV that's packing in quite a lot of bang for your buck overall. There aren't really any TVs properly competing with the R617 and the H8F in this price range, as far as I can tell. I'm personally very excited to see reviews of the H9F, although it seems like it might still be 3 more months before we get a review from Rtings on it, even if it were to finally release right this moment. But if the H9F carries through the advantages that the H8F has over the R617 and also improves on all its shortcomings then it will be a mighty nice TV for a really good price. I just hope it is actually capable of accepting and displaying 120hz signals, since I've been seeing everywhere that it will be a 120hz panel, but that doesn't always mean a TV will display 120hz content properly.