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Best 43 inch for gaming

Hi all,

I’m trying to decide between the Vizio V436-G1 and the LG UM7300 for a new gaming TV. Use case is PS4 Pro, Xbox One X as well as retro consoles such as Super NT and Mega SG. Rtings has a review of the LG but not this specific Vizio. It has FALD but presumably a poor implementation like last year. The LG has IPS and therefore better viewing angles. Both have gaming mode for low latency. For me, I want the best quality picture I can get with little or no blur so response time is important. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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I’m trying to decide between the Vizio V436-G1 and the LG UM7300 for a new gaming TV. Use case is PS4 Pro, Xbox One X as well as retro consoles such as Super NT and Mega SG. Rtings has a review of the LG but not this specific Vizio. It has FALD but presumably a poor implementation like last year. The LG has IPS and therefore better viewing angles. Both have gaming mode for low latency. For me, I want the best quality picture I can get with little or no blur so response time is important. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated



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If you ar limted to those displays than the Vizio would be the better of the two.
You might consider the TCL 5 series which also comes in 43".

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If you ar limted to those displays than the Vizio would be the better of the two.
You might consider the TCL 5 series which also comes in 43".

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Thank you for the response. I assume you mean the 43S515? That would be superior to both of these for gaming?
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Thank you for the response. I assume you mean the 43S515? That would be superior to both of these for gaming?
I have the 49S515 in my house and it is quite a good performer, but I did look up the V series you are talking about and it will be a great performer.
Be aware that there are two variants of the Vizio V series this year.
The one you named is the superior of the two since it offers local dimming and 400 nit peak brightness.

The TCL is around 300nit across the board which will likely be in line with the Vizio's real screen peak brightness.

They both offer game modes with low input lag.



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I have the 49S515 in my house and it is quite a good performer, but I did look up the V series you are talking about and it will be a great performer.
Be aware that there are two variants of the Vizio V series this year.
The one you named is the superior of the two since it offers local dimming and 400 nit peak brightness.

The TCL is around 300nit across the board which will likely be in line with the Vizio's real screen peak brightness.

They both offer game modes with low input lag.



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Thank you. Yeah it’s a shame rtings chose to review the inferior model so I have no hard numbers to go by. It sounds as though the LG should be dropped from my list?
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Thank you. Yeah it’s a shame rtings chose to review the inferior model so I have no hard numbers to go by. It sounds as though the LG should be dropped from my list?
From a picture quality standpoint I would. If you ever plan on playing in a dark room the will have pretty bad picture quality due to the very low contrast ratio.



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From a picture quality standpoint I would. If you ever plan on playing in a dark room the will have pretty bad picture quality due to the very low contrast ratio.



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Thanks again. One follow-up, I’ve read that Vizio doesn’t have the best upscaling. My various retro consoles output 480p, 720p and 1080p depending on the system. Given that, does this change your recommendation? How bad is Vizio’s upscaling?
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Philips 43” hands down. Hdr1000, true monitor , 0.05 measured black, almost 8000:1 native contrast plus 32 zones local dimming.

Supports gsync and freesync

It maxes out at 60hz.

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sjchmura, what is the Philips model?
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Wait a while and get the LG SM9000 For $799 on Black Friday. IPS 4K UHD, Local Dimming and HDMI 2.1 VRR which will be compatible with Next gen consoles in 2020
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sjchmura, what is the philips model?



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I’m trying to decide between the Vizio V436-G1 and the LG UM7300 for a new gaming TV. Use case is PS4 Pro, Xbox One X as well as retro consoles such as Super NT and Mega SG. Rtings has a review of the LG but not this specific Vizio. It has FALD but presumably a poor implementation like last year. The LG has IPS and therefore better viewing angles. Both have gaming mode for low latency. For me, I want the best quality picture I can get with little or no blur so response time is important. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated



Thanks,

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I should have asked what your budget was to begin with.
The philips mentioned is a good choice, but you are limited to 1 HDMI input and no legacy ports so retro consoles are out.

And it is setting at over $900 currently. The Sm9000 isn't available in a 43', so if you're size restricted you're out there it is 55" and above.
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I should have asked what your budget was to begin with.
The philips mentioned is a good choice, but you are limited to 1 HDMI input and no legacy ports so retro consoles are out.

And it is setting at over $900 currently. The Sm9000 isn't available in a 43', so if you're size restricted you're out there it is 55" and above.
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Interesting. Never saw that Philips before. 43” is my size limit and preferably no more than $500 in price. May could stretch to $600
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Interesting. Never saw that Philips before. 43” is my size limit and preferably no more than $500 in price. May could stretch to $600
The Vizio M43 should be coming soon as well and will add quantom dot.
The Philips was high on my list originally, but the lack of inputs was a deal breaker for me at that price.

Here is one you might consider and Samsung has excellent upscaling.

Samsung UN43RU7100FXZA FLAT 43'' 4K UHD 7 Series Smart TV (2019) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NC8X2Z6..._RzFiDbEDDXS1W

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That'll be an amazing display, but will blow gis $600 budget out of the water, lol.

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So I’m still trying to make a final decision. Current sales have brought the Samsung Q60R 43” into my price range. How would this fare against the Vizio V436-G1?

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Still looking for advice on the Samsung Q60R 43” vs the Vizio V436-G1. The Vizio does have local dimming but is not as bright as the Q60R. It also doesn’t have as wide a color gamut. I’d really appreciate some expert opinions between these two sets. Again, my use case is both 4K and retro gaming (480p, 720p, 1080p). Thank you
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The Philips 43" is $799 on sale at microcenter. It's stunning with gsync, freesunc, hdr1000, native contrast of 7599:1 , local dining and 98% dci3 color

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