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View Poll Results: Dedicated Home Theater vs. Media-Friendly Living Room: Which do you prefer
Dedicated Home Theater 134 51.94%
Huge TV in Living Room 111 43.02%
Projector in Living Room 13 5.04%
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post #121 of 141 Old 07-14-2019, 02:53 PM
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$5000+ TVs are a thing in college dorms? Come to think of it, I was biking by some student housing at Temple University and it was so high-end, I'd believe it!

I've seen plenty of tasteful installations of big TVs. Still not buying the notion it's tacky, but I do buy the idea that some installations are tacky and there's a higher risk of it, the larger the TV. Namely, in rooms where there's no good space for it.

Also, as far as friends and neighbors go, all of mine are nothing but impressed when they see 85" 4K HDR in all its glory, impressed enough to get over whatever home decoration-related reservations they might have about putting a really awesome screen in the room they use most!

Just sayin'.

I tend to only visit the forums when I am researching a purchase, building a theater room or building speakers so maybe I've missed a thread showing examples of 85" screens in common living areas. I have been on again recently because I am putting in a 4K security camera system and thought I would get a 4K TV instead of a 4K monitor. My wife calls my new basement office "command center" after Meet the Fockers. This may not be the thread for it but I would love to see examples of forum members rooms with huge screens and what that does to the overall aesthetics of a multi-purpose living space. I am happy to include my puny 60" as well since I know it won't last forever and I will likely replace it with something at least in the 75" range as long as it allows me to continue to use the space for it's main purpose, personal interaction.
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If it's not at least 120 inches minimum faget abat it!

82 inches? That's without Viagra!
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I have 11 televisions on the wall in my home, including 4 excellent 4K TVs put up within the last 1.5 years. The new tv’s are 65 to 85” with both televisions in the 2 family rooms being 75 and 85 inches. These are excellent sets for viewing tv programs and sports.

Having said all that, not a single one of those televisions comes remotely close to offering the cinematic experience of my dedicated movie theater with complete light control, 125” 2.35 screen, and 4K hdr laser projection. The movie experience in the movie theater is completely different than watching the same movie on any television, even an 85”er. The two experience aren’t even close to comparable.

If you love movies and have the means, and dedicated home theater is the only way to go.
Projectors make you feel like you are inside of the movie!! I totally agree brother..once you go UB black...you NEVER go back!!
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My vote was for dedicated theatre room. There are three reasons for that:

1. A dark/light-controlled room helps the immersion factor. Living rooms tend to be built to bring in as much available light as possible, which is great for socialization, but not great for critical viewing.

2. My own viewing is 95% movies. I have never had cable so I miss out on the cultural phenomenon du jour. Everything I watch is focused entertainment.

3. I have observed that people often will start conversations, move around constantly, check their phone etc. in a living room environment if they are not engaged with what others are viewing. In contrast, most people will sit quietly in a dark viewing room, even if they are not 100% engaged.
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3. I have observed that people often will start conversations, move around constantly, check their phone etc. in a living room environment if they are not engaged with what others are viewing. In contrast, most people will sit quietly in a dark viewing room, even if they are not 100% engaged.

So very true !!
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Go 120"+ scope screen and you never look back. Don't care what size the TV is because you get the annoying black bars and the TV ends up still being a lot smaller. Scope screens have changed my life.

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Like a few others I voted prefer a dedicated theater, but not possible in my condo. I live in an end unit, where the livingroom is the outside corner of the building and the only room I can crank up movie volume without disturbing neighbors. I chose the building based on its thick solid concrete build, it is extremely rare to hear anything from neighbors above or below and I don't think they hear me. Solid building, so I don't compromise on sound.

I bought my OLED 65" when they still did 3D, so I'm hanging on to that, working great still. I have room to upsize to 75" or 82" but prefer keeping 3D so size is a compromise but not due to being in a livingroom.

I'm installing black out curtains but light is always going to be the biggest compromise. I don't really find there are distractions. Frankly, there are more distractions and light bleed in the local commercial theaters.

If I had a dedicated room, I'd have more light control during the day. And speaker placement would be perfect. Otherwise, I'm happy with the Atmos upward firing 9+1 speakers and the Marantz with Audyssey does a great job compensating for room acoustics. So, satisfied but would prefer and my goal is a dedicated home theater when we move to a home that can accommodate one.

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My vote was for dedicated theatre room. There are three reasons for that:

1. A dark/light-controlled room helps the immersion factor. Living rooms tend to be built to bring in as much available light as possible, which is great for socialization, but not great for critical viewing.

2. My own viewing is 95% movies. I have never had cable so I miss out on the cultural phenomenon du jour. Everything I watch is focused entertainment.

3. I have observed that people often will start conversations, move around constantly, check their phone etc. in a living room environment if they are not engaged with what others are viewing. In contrast, most people will sit quietly in a dark viewing room, even if they are not 100% engaged.
Yeah, and after that happens once, they start politely declining invitations to watch movies in the home theater!
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Went from a Large Living room w/ a 60" tv to a small dedicated 110" projection and found the dedicated room so much better for sound. The Living room had windows and hard wood floors, sound was terrible. The HT room had carpet and was dead silent. I'd suggest getting both. Just convert a large bedroom into a sm HT room and your set , especially for sound.
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Yeah, and after that happens once, they start politely declining invitations to watch movies in the home theater!
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Filed under "I prefer watching movies alone to having friends..." Which is a lifestyle I tried, but in the end there were not enough good movies to sustain it!
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Filed under "I prefer watching movies alone to having friends..." Which is a lifestyle I tried, but in the end there were not enough good movies to sustain it!
So true. LOL.

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Yes, huge screens in your living room looks tacky to me unless you can hide them somehow. Look at how well that Samsung Frame TV has done. That's where the market is going, not to 85" eyesores.

Also, screen size has absolutely nothing to do with being a "film buff".

Lastly, movies over the last decade have fallen off an absolute cliff as far as my interests. I don't dig the superhero movies at all, and the type of content that interests me has primarily moved to HBO.
No one, except perhaps you, ever regretted buying a bigger screen.
In my dedicated theater\music room I went with 100" diagonal, I have the room to easily go 120".

Far more recently, after getting a 65" LG OLED and having it calibrated, my 1st thought was, next Spring I getting a 77" for the living room.

 
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I, too, found Mark's response a bit harsh. Perhaps there are some past issues between the two.

I share the increasingly popular viewpoint that modern television productions have far surpassed feature films with regard to quality. It used to be the other way around. And on that note, it is worth mentioning that TV series can also make for an engrossing audio/video experience in your home theater of choice.
The problem with comparing television production with feature films comes in when you are wstching said tv production via a cable box vs a feature film on disc. The picture and sound quality can be grossly different and at least in my experience the larger you stretch a cable TV production after about 50 inches the picture quality degrades terribly. Where as you stick a 4k disc in and 75 inches is like a starting point.

With that said we have a 49 inch curved Samsung in the livingroom for 90% of TV viewing but when we watch a disc movie its in the theater on the 75 inch TV or 120 Epson 6050.

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Go 120"+ scope screen and you never look back. Don't care what size the TV is because you get the annoying black bars and the TV ends up still being a lot smaller. Scope screens have changed my life.
While i dont have a scope screen i do have a pull down screen and when watching a 2.39x1 movie i adjust it to fit the size. Its not the best solution but it works well for me and i avoide blsck bars or should i say they get adsorbed into black felt and disappear. I totally agree on the TV black bars being annoying and its onky when the kids are in need of ambient light that we use the TV on movies.

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My vote was for dedicated theatre room. There are three reasons for that:

1. A dark/light-controlled room helps the immersion factor. Living rooms tend to be built to bring in as much available light as possible, which is great for socialization, but not great for critical viewing.

2. My own viewing is 95% movies. I have never had cable so I miss out on the cultural phenomenon du jour. Everything I watch is focused entertainment.

3. I have observed that people often will start conversations, move around constantly, check their phone etc. in a living room environment if they are not engaged with what others are viewing. In contrast, most people will sit quietly in a dark viewing room, even if they are not 100% engaged.
Its only on a rare occasion we have guests over to watch anything in the theater.... and those would only be like out of town visits from people staying with us.

A typical movie night in the theater is the kids watching something with no parents or ME watching something while the wife is on her lap top and kids on ipads only half watching lol... im good with having the company cause at least im not alone lol

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Maybe you just needed to start branching off into hdtv series.
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Interesting thread

Fascinating to read some of the opinions in this thread.

I recall when I was first dating my wife I had a 55" Sony Wega TV, Klipsch RB-75's in a Stereo setup. I gradually added a center, surrounds an a subwoofer as finances permitted. My wife at the time poked fun at me for this huge sound system in my small apartment. Luckily I rented above someone's garage and I could utilize it to it's full potential without bothering any neighbors. I'll never forget when my Outlaw 990 went out and I had to send it in for repair and my wife constantly complained about the lack of sound when watching movies and she couldn't wait for the 990 to return.

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(55" - no complaints from the wife)

Later I upgraded to a 61" Samsung rear projection TV and it seemed massive in my apartment. However the overall viewing experience was fantastic.
Samsung 61" DLP. My wife made fun of me for the massive TV, but never complained when watching a movie that it was too big.


(61" wife complains it's too big)

In my first home I installed a retractable projector in family room and the surround sound speakers were in the ceiling in order to blend into the room and not be an eyesore. This screen was 140" and to everyone that came over it was awesome. We could entertain in the room and convert it into a theater room. Great for sports too but outside ambient light did create a problem so we had to manually hang up curtains to block the light. Nevertheless it was great viewing experience.

As mentioned earlier in this thread I built a dedicated theater, which is pictured in my avatar, and have a media room and bar in the adjacent room. The dual setup is fantastic. Most of our friends have kids in the age range of our own so when the families come over the kids can watch a movie in the theater while the adults have cocktails and such in the bar. There's a dart board, pool table and tv etc.

Anyway so we're currently in New Zealand, wife's from here, and we had our Sony 65" Z9D in the family room. My wife and I found that it was a bit of a nuisance to have the tv in the family room since we like to read after dinner and the kids want to watch a show (only 30 minutes a day of screen time allowed). We moved the TV into what they call here formal lounge or living room in the USA and the with the door closed we have piece and quiet. This is the setup that works here for us, but the funny thing is my wife told me the 65" Sony is too small and she misses the theater. She told me I should have bought the 75", but it wasn't available at the time.


(65" wife complains it's too small - don't go there)

Remembering the days of living in a small apartment being teased about my big TV and Speakers to my wife complaining about a 65" tv being too small and missing our theater is rather amusing to me. I'm lucky that she gives me free reign with my hobbies, but also that she appreciates the outcome. To say she thinks the TV is too small is almost an understatement. She's not at television person but she enjoys a good show like Game of Thrones or a good movie as in The Green Book. However she's told me several times she almost prefers to save the movies until we move back to Colorado then watch them on the 65" tv. Yes we have surround sound etc, but going from a 134" Scope screen with surround and atmos in a dedicated theater is a much different experience than in a living room. However we do what works for us.


(134" wife and kids prefer this)


An aside:
I agree with the comments on TV show's and movies. I do think there are some excellent movies being produced but the majority are bad. It's one of the reasons I stopped going to the local cinema because I was annoyed that I'm forking over $60 for a night at the movies only for it to be not worth it. Weeding out the good and bad is not easy because everyone has their personal tastes and you can only take online reviews so far. I almost never agree with rotten tomato reviews, but my tastes tend to be inline with Ralph Potts here on AVS. I also find IMDB reviews to be more reflective of my tastes.

Another aside:
I cut the cable cord 14 years ago and was doing Netflix rentals and OTA only. Today I buy movies and do streaming only, no OTA. I stopped watching sports (I know, the horror), because there were too many commercials and athletes started getting political which was an annoyance. Plus riding up the cable tier to get the games you want is a bunch of baloney (I'm froogle).

Anyway with shows like True Detective, Games of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Yellowstone etc, I find the quality of content amazing. My years of surfing are over and I rather watch nothing than surf.

My ideal situation:
In the end if I didn't have room for a dedicated theater I'd probably buy an 80" plus tv and put somewhere that hopefully isn't too tacky. In saying that I find a formal living room today to be somewhat pointless. We have formal living rooms and dining rooms in both of our houses and we hardly use them. The formal living room in NZ is only used for watching TV and the one in COS is only used on Christmas Day for the most part. My wife and I would like to build a house someday and when we do we're going to have a massive family room, media room and theater room but no formal dining or formal living room. Our kitchen currently seats 10 which is fine and we'd do the same type of thing if we built a home, just one dining area. We're not fancy or formal people and neither are our friends so we find the formal area's to be wasted space. Now a media room with a pool table, dart board, tv, bar is going to be the most used room in the house besides the kitchen area.

oh and guy with the Galaga video game machine, you sir are awesome. I'd like to own one of those and some pinball machines for my media room some day. Funhouse here I come.
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I started with a game/family room and converted it to a dedicated two row theater. The room only got a fraction of the use it got previously as a family room. I kept the projector, but brought back the pool table and arcade machines. Now, there is only one row of chairs and each chair is on carpet sliders. During movie time, they slide up next to the pool table (13 feet from screen). For game time, they slide toward the screen and spin around to provide seating for the pool shooters. The arcade machines are on the back wall. The pool table allows me to ensure the seats are returned back to their correct location i.e. where they were when I ran the room correction for critical listening. This hybrid room checks all the boxes for me. The purist would frown, and I won't win any home theater of the month awards, but for our family and friends, it is hands down more fun and practical than the dedicated theater was.
Thats a really goo point, a room might get less use if you have to make it a formal thing of 'going to the room', than just using it as a multifunctional space

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We have a simple dedicated room in our basement. Like many I wanted a better place for a projector. I'm tired of current movies and don't feel like they are worth going all out in a theater room anymore. Things are too busy here nor do I feel like sitting in a dark basement to watch a movie. I'm also content with having a large flat panel so a dedicated room isn't needed.

I'm currently planning on bringing the nicer gear and acoustic panels back to the main family room where it will be used more often. I also removed the gas fireplace and put drywall over the area so I have a nice spot to hang the tv.

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