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Ordered mine fairly early on, got it last week. Box looked fine, but screen was damaged. Got Amazon to schedule for it to be picked up (sucks, because i have to schedule it again when I'm at home...which for a standard 8-5er is tough) and they couldn't replace because its out of stock. I don't know if its the packaging, the shipping, or the quality of the panels themselves, but there's quite a bit of reviews for damaged panels on Amazon already (relatively speaking of course, since we have no idea how many were shipped that was fine vs shipped that was damaged) but it's not giving me confidence about these panels. They are great deal for the price and tech, but if they already had issues with damaged screens before, what more now that there's some buzz and backlog of inventory? Experience tells me new batches will likely be rushed to production to meet that demand which is never good.



Now I'm undecided what to do. Whether to wait on new batches (can't really beat $800 for a QLED with nearly same tech/features as a Q70, which is priced nearly 2x as the TCL), or just go with one of the Q series (80R likely, as the 90R is more expensive than the LG C9) from Samsung. Picture quality wise, I've really liked the OLEDs, but the burn-in for such expensive TVs scares me (I play MMO and do dungeon raids that goes 2 hours twice a week, so the HUD is a very serious concern for me). For what its worth, I've had a plasma for over a decade now. Never had issues with burn-in until I started using it for this game, so at this point I'm pretty much not for OLED due to that risk.


I ordered the 65S625 from Amazon but had found that Best Buy had a small stock of the 65” Hisense H95 as well. So I ordered one of them too. The Hisense arrived first and so I set it all up. I know that there’s a lot of talk about uniformity issues, vignette, etc...

Honestly though, this is the best tv I’ve ever owned. I’ve had Samsung, Sony, and Vizio. But the Hisense blows them all away. Black levels are amazing, the colors really pop, there’s plenty of brightness to the image, I have no qualms with it at all.

I’m sorry, I know this is the TCL Baird but I thought I’d give you my opinion since the Hisense is only $100 more, I think it’s totally worth it and worthy of your consideration. I’ve already set to return the TCL that eventually arrived. I had planned to do a side-by-side comparison myself but have just decided to keep the Hisense.


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Fomo has R625 HDR review up.


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I ordered the 65S625 from Amazon but had found that Best Buy had a small stock of the 65” Hisense H95 as well. So I ordered one of them too. The Hisense arrived first and so I set it all up. I know that there’s a lot of talk about uniformity issues, vignette, etc...

Honestly though, this is the best tv I’ve ever owned. I’ve had Samsung, Sony, and Vizio. But the Hisense blows them all away. Black levels are amazing, the colors really pop, there’s plenty of brightness to the image, I have no qualms with it at all.

I’m sorry, I know this is the TCL Baird but I thought I’d give you my opinion since the Hisense is only $100 more, I think it’s totally worth it and worthy of your consideration. I’ve already set to return the TCL that eventually arrived. I had planned to do a side-by-side comparison myself but have just decided to keep the Hisense.


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The S25 and R25 are 2 different animals. Most here are talking about the R25
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The S25 and R25 are 2 different animals. Most here are talking about the R25
The S is the 5 series the R is the 6 series. Which one are you talking about ? It's confusing as you have both an S and and 6 in the model you posted.
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I ordered the 65S625 from Amazon but had found that Best Buy had a small stock of the 65” Hisense H95 as well. So I ordered one of them too. The Hisense arrived first and so I set it all up. I know that there’s a lot of talk about uniformity issues, vignette, etc...

Honestly though, this is the best tv I’ve ever owned. I’ve had Samsung, Sony, and Vizio. But the Hisense blows them all away. Black levels are amazing, the colors really pop, there’s plenty of brightness to the image, I have no qualms with it at all.

I’m sorry, I know this is the TCL Baird but I thought I’d give you my opinion since the Hisense is only $100 more, I think it’s totally worth it and worthy of your consideration. I’ve already set to return the TCL that eventually arrived. I had planned to do a side-by-side comparison myself but have just decided to keep the Hisense.


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I ordered the 65S625 from Amazon but had found that Best Buy had a small stock of the 65” Hisense H95 as well. So I ordered one of them too. The Hisense arrived first and so I set it all up. I know that there’s a lot of talk about uniformity issues, vignette, etc...

Honestly though, this is the best tv I’ve ever owned. I’ve had Samsung, Sony, and Vizio. But the Hisense blows them all away. Black levels are amazing, the colors really pop, there’s plenty of brightness to the image, I have no qualms with it at all.

I’m sorry, I know this is the TCL Baird but I thought I’d give you my opinion since the Hisense is only $100 more, I think it’s totally worth it and worthy of your consideration. I’ve already set to return the TCL that eventually arrived. I had planned to do a side-by-side comparison myself but have just decided to keep the Hisense.


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Now I really have a dilemma. Samsung EPP having a massive sale. Search for 4k tvs on slickdeals. So for the same price as an 8 series 65 inch, you can get a Q80R 75 inch. Very tempting. If good 65 inch TCL R625 were available I would get one again, then wait for a year and move it to a bedroom for hopefully a very large 8 series.
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The S is the 5 series the R is the 6 series. Which one are you talking about ? It's confusing as you have both an S and and 6 in the model you posted.


Sorry about that, I’m all thumbs today. I meant the 65R625


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The 6 Series gets even brighter than the Hisense.


Where have you seen that?


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Well you can probably reasonably assume that, based on the fact that the previous gen 6 series gets brighter than the new H9F, according to Rtings' reviews, the 2019 6 series probably also gets brighter than the H9F.
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Well you can probably reasonably assume that, based on the fact that the previous gen 6 series gets brighter than the new H9F, according to Rtings' reviews, the 2019 6 series probably also gets brighter than the H9F.


Yeah I see where you’re coming from but that’s not always a guarantee. TVs change every year and, unfortunately, it’s not always for the better. Look at the degrading contrast and backlighting of the Sony TVs since the X900E


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The difference would be negligible in use. BTW they may be using completely different backlighting for the Quantum dots and one should never assume in this addiction! Look at the Samsung's from last year to this year. One would have assumed they would have at least equal color gamut but they don't.

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The difference would be negligible in use. BTW they may be using completely different backlighting for the Quantum dots and one should never assume in this addiction! Look at the Samsung's from last year to this year. One would have assumed they would have at least equal color gamut but they don't.
Correct. If I recall correctly, the peak brightness of the 2018 6-series actually went down a bit from the 2017 6-series.

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Correct. If I recall correctly, the peak brightness of the 2018 6-series actually went down a bit from the 2017 6-series.
There was no 2017 6 series. In 2017 their top of the line was called the P series. The 2018 6 series was much brighter than the P series. Both reviews are still available at rtings.
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Well you can probably reasonably assume that, based on the fact that the previous gen 6 series gets brighter than the new H9F, according to Rtings' reviews, the 2019 6 series probably also gets brighter than the H9F.
I was watching some of the FOMO reviews on YouTube of the new 6-series. He has the H9F directly beside the TCL and then a higher end Sony and Samsung model above those (don't recall those model numbers). Anyway, the H9F looked brighter than all of them but it also appeared to be blowing the picture out a bit. He was using the 4k HDR disc of the new Malificent movie.

*I see now someone has linked to that video a few posts above mine.
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Did anyone else who had a damaged TCL get a call from TCL last night? I was very impressed. They told me the person I talked to was wrong and they actually could replace my TCL 65, except for the fact that I had already shipped it back to Amazon an been credited. If I still had it they would have replaced it. I pressed him for info on more series 6 (no info) and then the 8 series, he said look for an announcement around the 15th.
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Did anyone else who had a damaged TCL get a call from TCL last night? I was very impressed. They told me the person I talked to was wrong and they actually could replace my TCL 65, except for the fact that I had already shipped it back to Amazon an been credited. If I still had it they would have replaced it. I pressed him for info on more series 6 (no info) and then the 8 series, he said look for an announcement around the 15th.
Nope I've been having a really bad time with TCL support trying to get mine replaced.
I contacted TCL on 9/24 and still don't have a answer. The last TCL support email was a reply from a call that Amazon made for me to TCL asking if they can replace it since Amazon has no stock and the TCL rep asked if I got my replacement from Amazon yet...

Plan b is to just get refund from Amazon.

*Update, TCL agreed to exchange it. I'll update once that happens in 1-2 weeks.
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Nope I've been having a really bad time with TCL support trying to get mine replaced.
I contacted TCL on 9/24 and still don't have a answer. The last TCL support email was a reply from a call that Amazon made for me to TCL asking if they can replace it since Amazon has no stock and the TCL rep asked if I got my replacement from Amazon yet...

Plan b is to just get refund from Amazon.
Do you still have the TCL or has it gone back to Amazon?
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I still have it.
I plan to give TCL till next weekend to work it out since I'm not home for Amazon to pick it up during the week.
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There was no 2017 6 series. In 2017 their top of the line was called the P series. The 2018 6 series was much brighter than the P series. Both reviews are still available at rtings.
You are completely correct! My bad. I was thinking of the color gamut which was a bit better on the P series.
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Ordered mine fairly early on, got it last week. Box looked fine, but screen was damaged. Got Amazon to schedule for it to be picked up (sucks, because i have to schedule it again when I'm at home...which for a standard 8-5er is tough) and they couldn't replace because its out of stock. I don't know if its the packaging, the shipping, or the quality of the panels themselves, but there's quite a bit of reviews for damaged panels on Amazon already (relatively speaking of course, since we have no idea how many were shipped that was fine vs shipped that was damaged) but it's not giving me confidence about these panels. They are great deal for the price and tech, but if they already had issues with damaged screens before, what more now that there's some buzz and backlog of inventory? Experience tells me new batches will likely be rushed to production to meet that demand which is never good.

Now I'm undecided what to do. Whether to wait on new batches (can't really beat $800 for a QLED with nearly same tech/features as a Q70, which is priced nearly 2x as the TCL), or just go with one of the Q series (80R likely, as the 90R is more expensive than the LG C9) from Samsung. Picture quality wise, I've really liked the OLEDs, but the burn-in for such expensive TVs scares me (I play MMO and do dungeon raids that goes 2 hours twice a week, so the HUD is a very serious concern for me). For what its worth, I've had a plasma for over a decade now. Never had issues with burn-in until I started using it for this game, so at this point I'm pretty much not for OLED due to that risk.
I have now received TWO 55R625's from Amazon, both of which had completely busted screens. The first box showed a little damage. The second one looked fine except it was missing one of the straps. Really, really strange how prevalent this issue is. Meanwhile, weirdos in the comments on Amazon are getting mad for people leaving bad reviews based on having this experience.

I am dying for a local big box store to get them in stock but no word yet.
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I have now received TWO 55R625's from Amazon, both of which had completely busted screens. The first box showed a little damage. The second one looked fine except it was missing one of the straps. Really, really strange how prevalent this issue is. Meanwhile, weirdos in the comments on Amazon are getting mad for people leaving bad reviews based on having this experience.

I am dying for a local big box store to get them in stock but no word yet.
That is crazy. I really hope it is because of poor handling and not an extremely weak panel
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That is crazy. I really hope it is because of poor handling and not an extremely weak panel
Or perhaps poor packing and materials.
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I have now received TWO 55R625's from Amazon, both of which had completely busted screens. The first box showed a little damage. The second one looked fine except it was missing one of the straps. Really, really strange how prevalent this issue is. Meanwhile, weirdos in the comments on Amazon are getting mad for people leaving bad reviews based on having this experience.

I am dying for a local big box store to get them in stock but no word yet.
Oof...that is not good. At this point, I think I am going to wait on the 8 series. I'm in TN and can go to Electronics Express (which, btw, check out their listing for the 8 series...0_0 ). Definitely not going the Amazon route again for TV. The guys who dropped off my TV was using a truck with Enterprise logo on it (as in the rental car), so I have no idea how Amazon is contracting the delivery of these large TVs. I too have seen the reviews on Amazon criticizing the experience of broken screens and I don't get it. One or two? Maybe. But between Amazon and this site, there's certainly enough reports of these damaged out of the box that its worth mentioning.

Not TCL related, but I will also mention that since this is my first time making a TV purchase from Amazon, I hounded Amazon CS prior to the shipping to confirm delivery method. Twice, I was told it will be "white glove". It of course, was not. That said, minutes from when the damaged panel was picked up, I got notification from Amazon that my return has been processed and so has my refund. So, at least, there's that?

But definitely, whenever this goes in stock (or the 8 series), I'm doing the local store route and going white glove to make sure everything is A-OK.

Specs and value wise, I'm not sure there is a better option than the 625 or 825 right now (especially if that EE listing is correct)
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Me too. After reading the issues with audio sync and some bad panels already with this new model, I think I am going to move on from this set. I don't like being the guinea pig.

I am actually thinking of getting last years model. The local Costco has it marked down to $639 now.
Even though these new 62x's have QLED, I still think last years 75" 61x is a better deal at just over a grand. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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So big Chinese companies Huawei, TCL, Hisense have effectively push quality LCDs Sony, Samsung, LG, Out of the LCD market into OLEDs.
Something tells me this is bad news for the US consumer and for quality LCDs
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Oof...that is not good. At this point, I think I am going to wait on the 8 series. I'm in TN and can go to Electronics Express (which, btw, check out their listing for the 8 series...0_0 ). Definitely not going the Amazon route again for TV. The guys who dropped off my TV was using a truck with Enterprise logo on it (as in the rental car), so I have no idea how Amazon is contracting the delivery of these large TVs. I too have seen the reviews on Amazon criticizing the experience of broken screens and I don't get it. One or two? Maybe. But between Amazon and this site, there's certainly enough reports of these damaged out of the box that its worth mentioning.

Not TCL related, but I will also mention that since this is my first time making a TV purchase from Amazon, I hounded Amazon CS prior to the shipping to confirm delivery method. Twice, I was told it will be "white glove". It of course, was not. That said, minutes from when the damaged panel was picked up, I got notification from Amazon that my return has been processed and so has my refund. So, at least, there's that?

But definitely, whenever this goes in stock (or the 8 series), I'm doing the local store route and going white glove to make sure everything is A-OK.

Specs and value wise, I'm not sure there is a better option than the 625 or 825 right now (especially if that EE listing is correct)
Electronics Express pulled the listing for 8 series..
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So big Chinese companies Huawei, TCL, Hisense have effectively push quality LCDs Sony, Samsung, LG, Out of the LCD market into OLEDs.
Something tells me this is bad news for the US consumer and for quality LCDs
Or one could view it as these Chinese companies are closing in quickly on the quality of the Japanese and Korean companies, making the price premium not worth it in the consumer's eyes.
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Or one could view it as these Chinese companies are closing in quickly on the quality of the Japanese and Korean companies, making the price premium not worth it in the consumer's eyes.
While it hasn't manifested fully, China is the display tech leader now. Funny how that happens 15-20 years after their government starts to pump up their engineering college system...

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