TCL 8-Series, 6-Series QLED TVs Pricing & Availability - Page 11 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 819Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #301 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 08:05 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
whiteboy714's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,591
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1271 Post(s)
Liked: 483
Quote:
Originally Posted by hjames19 View Post
It looks like you can now order the 2019 6 Series on some websites.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thats very vague, got a link?
theboomr likes this.

TCL 65R625 -- Denon X1400h -- Klipsch RP600m -- RP450C -- Micca M-6S 6.5 -- Dual Klipsch RW-10
whiteboy714 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #302 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 08:48 AM
Member
 
hjames19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post
Thats very vague, got a link?


Nm. They labeled it wrong. But it was buydig and rakuten. They labeled them as the 2019 version and are around the suggested retail price. But if you look in the details it has the old model number. My apologies.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hjames19 is online now  
post #303 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 09:19 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Stuntman_Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,794
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 784 Post(s)
Liked: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by duvy56 View Post
Knowing what we already know what are ya more excited about
TCL 8 Series mini LEDS or Hisense ULED XD?
Can't wait to see both.
More excited for ULED, personally. The tech will immediately be an upgrade in terms of contrast ratio and light control as their first US product will have 4K front and back plane.

What TCL is doing looks great too, but in terms of the tech itself, I think that dual LCD will have the more immediate impact in terms of narrowing the gap between transmissive and emissive contrast. Especially since this first gen Mini LED will only be ~900 zones.

Other things will factor in, like features, HDMI 2.1, input lag, etc, but just based on tech alone, more excited for dual LCD, at this stage.

Stuntman_Mike is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #304 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 09:41 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ggw2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 1,514
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post
More excited for ULED, personally. The tech will immediately be an upgrade in terms of contrast ratio and light control as their first US product will have 4K front and back plane.

What TCL is doing looks great too, but in terms of the tech itself, I think that dual LCD will have the more immediate impact in terms of narrowing the gap between transmissive and emissive contrast. Especially since this first gen Mini LED will only be ~900 zones.

Other things will factor in, like features, HDMI 2.1, input lag, etc, but just based on tech alone, more excited for dual LCD, at this stage.
Too bad no 75" from Hisense- therefore no go...
Gerry
Frostyboy115 likes this.

Sony XBR 75X940E - Sony STR-DH790 ATMOS - Sony UBP-X700 UHD BD Player - ATV 4K
ggw2000 is offline  
post #305 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 09:47 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Stuntman_Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,794
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 784 Post(s)
Liked: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggw2000 View Post
Too bad no 75" from Hisense- therefore no go...
Gerry
Not to hijack the TCL thread, but I think that they are going to have a 75" now, for next year.

Stuntman_Mike is online now  
post #306 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 11:56 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post
Not to hijack the TCL thread, but I think that they are going to have a 75" now, for next year.
Depends on consumer demand obviously. Hisense is still considered a "budget" brand so we will see if they can turn that around.
samoth84 is online now  
post #307 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 12:54 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Stuntman_Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,794
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 784 Post(s)
Liked: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by samoth84 View Post
Depends on consumer demand obviously. Hisense is still considered a "budget" brand so we will see if they can turn that around.
Isn't TCL also considered a budget brand...? Not sure what you're getting at.
samoth84 likes this.

Stuntman_Mike is online now  
post #308 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 12:58 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post
Isn't TCL also considered a budget brand...? Not sure what you're getting at.
The TCL 6 series was very popular so they put out the 75" version of it this year. It was not a part of the lineup in 2018 when the 6 series was put out.
samoth84 is online now  
post #309 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 01:03 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Stuntman_Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,794
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 784 Post(s)
Liked: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by samoth84 View Post
The TCL 6 series was very popular so they put out the 75" version of it this year. It was not a part of the lineup in 2018 when the 6 series was put out.
I got you. Pretty sure I've already read/ seen (don't remember which) where Hisense said that they would have a 75" for next year though in the US, so I don't think it's the same situation.

Sorry again for talking so much about Hisense in a TCL thread.
samoth84 likes this.

Stuntman_Mike is online now  
post #310 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 01:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post
I got you. Pretty sure I've already read/ seen (don't remember which) where Hisense said that they would have a 75" for next year though in the US, so I don't think it's the same situation.

Sorry again for talking so much about Hisense in a TCL thread.
Ah, I didn't know that. My bad
Stuntman_Mike likes this.
samoth84 is online now  
post #311 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 02:15 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 286
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 197 Post(s)
Liked: 82
What does it mean that the TV is Dolby Atmos capable? You’re not getting Atmos from the TV speakers right?
AVS Commenter is offline  
post #312 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 03:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVS Commenter View Post
What does it mean that the TV is Dolby Atmos capable? You’re not getting Atmos from the TV speakers right?
I was wondering that too. I think it must the some marketing gibberish to be honest. From what I understand, any tv is able to pass through the Atmos signal but you need upfiring speakers and all that for it to work. I am literally talking out of my butt here.
samoth84 is online now  
post #313 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 04:48 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
PlanetAVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin TX USA
Posts: 3,215
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2050 Post(s)
Liked: 1918
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVS Commenter View Post
What does it mean that the TV is Dolby Atmos capable? You’re not getting Atmos from the TV speakers right?
If you're talking about the 8 series, believe it or not it is in reference to the TV speakers. For anyone seriously interested in sound quality, I wouldn't expect much from this feature.
oldsteve likes this.
PlanetAVS is online now  
post #314 of 1174 Old 09-04-2019, 10:36 PM
Senior Member
 
strawberry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 349
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked: 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVS Commenter View Post
Is this likely the clear winner for a size of 55 inches and under a $1000?
It’ll likely be a strong contender, yes. I’d always recommend waiting for reviews and user impressions, though.
theboomr likes this.
strawberry is online now  
post #315 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 06:20 AM
Member
 
mjconnor10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlanetAVS View Post
If you're talking about the 8 series, believe it or not it is in reference to the TV speakers. For anyone seriously interested in sound quality, I wouldn't expect much from this feature.
I believe the same is true on the 6-series. It'll be a neat gimmick if they can pull it off. Will mediocre Atmos performance from the TV be better than 5.1 DTS? I don't have the budget to upgrade my audio, so I guess we'll find out!
mjconnor10 is online now  
post #316 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 06:23 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
whiteboy714's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,591
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1271 Post(s)
Liked: 483
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjconnor10 View Post
I believe the same is true on the 6-series. It'll be a neat gimmick if they can pull it off. Will mediocre Atmos performance from the TV be better than 5.1 DTS? I don't have the budget to upgrade my audio, so I guess we'll find out!


No way. I'm sure even a mediocre 5.1 will put it to shame. I am curious to hear what the Atmos speakers do if anything.
theboomr likes this.

TCL 65R625 -- Denon X1400h -- Klipsch RP600m -- RP450C -- Micca M-6S 6.5 -- Dual Klipsch RW-10
whiteboy714 is online now  
post #317 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 11:08 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 216
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 151 Post(s)
Liked: 43
The new TCL will be released by Sept 15th. There is a football sweepstakes TCL is running for chance to win the new 6 series. Check it out.
Scottt1174 is offline  
post #318 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 12:26 PM
Senior Member
 
JTH182's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Chicago suburbs
Posts: 275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Liked: 29
Are there any pictures of what the mini LED backlight array looks like? 25,000 is a ton, are they packed in really tight behind the screen? This tech should really eliminate jailbars, correct?
JTH182 is offline  
post #319 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 03:33 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ggw2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 1,514
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by JTH182 View Post
Are there any pictures of what the mini LED backlight array looks like? 25,000 is a ton, are they packed in really tight behind the screen? This tech should really eliminate jailbars, correct?
Go to Youtube and search "TCL 8 series".. Watch Vincent Teohs video and the 4 or 5 others if you want to....

Sony XBR 75X940E - Sony STR-DH790 ATMOS - Sony UBP-X700 UHD BD Player - ATV 4K
ggw2000 is offline  
post #320 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 04:29 PM
Senior Member
 
mike123abc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 344
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 49 Post(s)
Liked: 44
I wonder if the 8 series will be at IFA? I would love to see some more views of it, especially if it is on display for a few days.,
mike123abc is offline  
post #321 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 04:45 PM
Senior Member
 
JTH182's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Chicago suburbs
Posts: 275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Liked: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggw2000 View Post
Go to Youtube and search "TCL 8 series".. Watch Vincent Teohs video and the 4 or 5 others if you want to....
Edit: Apparently the first time I watched Vincent's video I wasn't looking close enough, lol... Wow, those things sure are packed in there!

Last edited by JTH182; 09-05-2019 at 05:48 PM.
JTH182 is offline  
post #322 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 06:03 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
12B4A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: CR Iowa
Posts: 1,097
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 628 Post(s)
Liked: 541
25000 LEDs for a 75" works out to an average of just over 10 LEDs per square inch. They are packed in there a**** to elbows. With that said, the spacing would be a little less than a 1/2 inch between LEDs so if the depth of the luminare is that same distance or more then there will be sufficient hiding power. The depth of the overall frame is 3 inches so it's pretty likely the TCL backlight designers had enough cavity space to work with.

I don't think backlight uniformity will be an issue.

Life is Lambertian
12B4A is online now  
post #323 of 1174 Old 09-05-2019, 08:01 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Ph8te's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19,331
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6526 Post(s)
Liked: 6245
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVS Commenter View Post
What does it mean that the TV is Dolby Atmos capable? You’re not getting Atmos from the TV speakers right?


I’m guessing like other TVs it can do Dolby Atmos (DD+ variant). This is useful for apps like NetFlix and Vudu. As said before it could also be via speakers which has been done by other manufacturers. It’s marketing, but it’s still “available”.
AVS Commenter likes this.
Ph8te is online now  
post #324 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 04:53 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Huntington Beach
Posts: 255
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 177 Post(s)
Liked: 106
TCL confirms that native refresh rate of the 8 Series is "100Hz". From its IFA press release linked below:

https://www.avforums.com/news/tcl-un...-hdr-tvs.16539

"TCL’s Mini LED Light Engine brings contrast, details, lifelike picture quality and HDR performance to a whole new level. With more than 15,000 ultra-slim LEDs split into 768 dimmable zones, the X10 Series boasts bright whites, deep blacks -- with no halo effect -- and vibrant details for the best HDR performance. In addition, Quantum Dot brings unrivalled colours -- 100% colour volume of DCI-P3 standard at 1500 nits of brightness -- while the native 100Hz display ensures smooth picture quality on fast-moving scenes."

Last edited by 8KCRT; 09-06-2019 at 04:53 PM. Reason: correction
8KCRT is offline  
post #325 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 05:00 PM
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 511
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 347 Post(s)
Liked: 220
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8KCRT View Post
TCL confirms that native refresh rate of the 8 Series is "100Hz". From its IFA press release linked below:

https://www.avforums.com/news/tcl-un...-hdr-tvs.16539

"TCL’s Mini LED Light Engine brings contrast, details, lifelike picture quality and HDR performance to a whole new level. With more than 15,000 ultra-slim LEDs split into 768 dimmable zones, the X10 Series boasts bright whites, deep blacks -- with no halo effect -- and vibrant details for the best HDR performance. In addition, Quantum Dot brings unrivalled colours -- 100% colour volume of DCI-P3 standard at 1500 nits of brightness -- while the native 100Hz display ensures smooth picture quality on fast-moving scenes."
100hz? That makes no sense for a TV

Last edited by teachsac; 09-06-2019 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Language acronym
theboomr is offline  
post #326 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 05:12 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
*UFO*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,186
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 797 Post(s)
Liked: 674
Quote:
Originally Posted by theboomr View Post
100hz? That makes no sense for a TV
Yes it does, depending on the region you are in. Some regions such as the UK are 50hz (ie 100hz), and some such as the US are 60hz (ie 120hz). Manufactures make the same model for both regions, but change the refresh rate. In the US it would be 120hz.

Last edited by teachsac; 09-06-2019 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Acronym in quote
*UFO* is offline  
post #327 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 05:41 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
12B4A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: CR Iowa
Posts: 1,097
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 628 Post(s)
Liked: 541
That's weird the X10 has 15000 leds/768 zones vs 8 series 25000leds/1000 zones. I thought these would be the same display heads with different video processing electronics.

Life is Lambertian
12B4A is online now  
post #328 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 06:31 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12B4A View Post
That's weird the X10 has 15000 leds/768 zones vs 8 series 25000leds/1000 zones. I thought these would be the same display heads with different video processing electronics.
I’m guessing 15000 LEDs/768 zones is the 65” while the 25000 LEDs/1000 zones is the 75”
aaronwt and 12B4A like this.
Dlincoln311 is online now  
post #329 of 1174 Old 09-06-2019, 11:35 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
PlanetAVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin TX USA
Posts: 3,215
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2050 Post(s)
Liked: 1918
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dlincoln311 View Post
I’m guessing 15000 LEDs/768 zones is the 65” while the 25000 LEDs/1000 zones is the 75”
Probably correct. The original announcement in June was for 15K LEDs 65". The August update announced the 75 inch version with 25K LEDs. The IFA announcement above (for Europe) only references 65" so far.
PlanetAVS is online now  
post #330 of 1174 Old 09-07-2019, 03:27 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 67
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 49 Post(s)
Liked: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottt1174 View Post
The new TCL will be released by Sept 15th. There is a football sweepstakes TCL is running for chance to win the new 6 series. Check it out.

I saw, but there's nothing about a release date prior to, or on September 15th. I'd hope so,but I highly doubt it. Still hoping for the first week in October at the latest!
TwayneP is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Tags
tcl , tcl 6-series , tcl 8-series

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off