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Any release date on 8 series? I have been reading that TCL reliability is a mess, any truth to that?
8 series release date was announced as sometime in October, but of course I'll believe it when I see it. As far as reliability, remember when Vizio was a reliability mess (and some may argue still messy)? When you build a product to the lowest price possible, reliability will always be a risk. But then again, many Samsung Q9FN owners complained of issues with their One Connect Box last year, and that was a $4,000 TV!
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TCL confirmed to me on Twitter that the new 8 series will in fact be 120hz panel and NOT 60hz. The new 6 series will all be 60hz panel unfortunately. So indeed the 8 series WILL BE 120hz. So can we put this to rest people...lol. I also confirmed a few days ago, again from TCL on Twitter that the new 6 series R625 and R627 will start rolling out August 25th or alittle there after.

Oh you can pretty much bet this won't be the last time this is brought up.

As long as their website is incorrect, someone will question what's been confirmed (several times) by people in this thread.

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The blame is on TCL. Not on the people that go to their official site and actually believe that the company knows what it's talking about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oh you can pretty much bet this won't be the last time this is brought up.

As long as their website is incorrect, someone will question what's been confirmed (several times) by people in this thread.
Even better - there will be people who actually buy the TV, use/test it, and still will question the 120hz. Perhaps they should be marketing these TVs as "gamer-edition" or something for the small % of people who will actually have source material to drive the TV to it's limits. For the masses, what matters is when the streaming/cable/broadcast delivery system sends us full 4k and 8k signals. Not betting on that happening soon so all these TVs for the next 2-3 years are transitional products.

I'll still probably get something after I can see the TCLs myself. Then it's the price-to-features compromise as usual.
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Even better - there will be people who actually buy the TV, use/test it, and still will question the 120hz. Perhaps they should be marketing these TVs as "gamer-edition" or something for the small % of people who will actually have source material to drive the TV to it's limits. For the masses, what matters is when the streaming/cable/broadcast delivery system sends us full 4k and 8k signals. Not betting on that happening soon so all these TVs for the next 2-3 years are transitional products.

I'll still probably get something after I can see the TCLs myself. Then it's the price-to-features compromise as usual.
for the masses they should just make a 720p tv cause they can't tell the difference... they'll just crank up the sharpness, contrast and brightness to the very top and think its a great picture.
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Was in best buy today and asked if they had heard anything. They were pretty clueless. The magnolia had heard about the new TV's at CES but that's it. The Samsung rep was surprised they would release anything worthwhile right now as he said that April was the norm for all the brands.

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I was in Best Buy last night and also asked. The rep went to the TCL USA web page. That's ok...been there. I then asked about the Hisense H9F and they pointed to the one Hisense they have, which is the H8F and commented you can do better. They didn't know anything about the 9 either. I am impatiently waiting for the series 6 as the rumor was the release date was August 25th. I am beginning to think it may be a few more weeks and the date is actually September 25th. Anybody else thinking about the H9F vs the Series 6? The H9F is available on the BestBuy website but worth waiting? My Samsung plasma died a week ago and my first inclination is to wait for the TCL but another month or more might be tough.
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Was in best buy today and asked if they had heard anything. They were pretty clueless. The magnolia had heard about the new TV's at CES but that's it. The Samsung rep was surprised they would release anything worthwhile right now as he said that April was the norm for all the brands.
Pretty much got the same response last week. They were clueless about a new 6 series coming out.
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Pretty much got the same response last week. They were clueless about a new 6 series coming out.


Yeah I guess that's to be expected. One would hope people would keep up on the field they work in. But they probably just shuffle people all over the store.
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One of the things I already see that is incorrect is that the pressers all sat the 5 series 43 will be under $300 while their website has the 43 inch 5 series at $429.99. pretty big difference. Amazon is also selling it over the $300 mark which both directly contradict their release. I wish TCL could get their info accurate and streamlined across their different platforms, press releases, and websites.
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One of the things I already see that is incorrect is that the pressers all sat the 5 series 43 will be under $300 while their website has the 43 inch 5 series at $429.99. pretty big difference. Amazon is also selling it over the $300 mark which both directly contradict their release. I wish TCL could get their info accurate and streamlined across their different platforms, press releases, and websites.
Website probably updated by the newest hired intern at TCL.
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OK so I contacted TCL about the 2019 6 Series and this was there response:
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We are excited to share that the new 2019 6-Series models will be available at retailers in September! The exact dates will be announced closer to the release. To stay updated, regularly visit https://www.tclusa.com/about-us/press-releases for the latest news!

Thank you for choosing TCL!

So now we wait......
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OK so I contacted TCL about the 2019 6 Series and this was there response:
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We are excited to share that the new 2019 6-Series models will be available at retailers in September! The exact dates will be announced closer to the release. To stay updated, regularly visit https://www.tclusa.com/about-us/press-releases for the latest news!

Thank you for choosing TCL!

So now we wait......

September. Argh... So close! lol. Hopefully they won't be hard to get/sell out instantly. Want to make a TV purchase right before October for the Halloween season!
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OK so I contacted TCL about the 2019 6 Series and this was there response:
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We are excited to share that the new 2019 6-Series models will be available at retailers in September! The exact dates will be announced closer to the release. To stay updated, regularly visit https://www.tclusa.com/about-us/press-releases for the latest news!

Thank you for choosing TCL!

So now we wait......
Thanks for the info.

The waiting game is real.
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ughh, so Sept 25th is a good possibility. I could be wrong but at least looks like Best Buy has the 2019 50 inch series 5: Model:50S525 SKU:6358908. Waiting...
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Looks like TCL changed their website info and now list the 8 series as Natural Motion 480 and the 6 series as Natural Motion 240.
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Looks like TCL changed their website info and now list the 8 series as Natural Motion 480 and the 6 series as Natural Motion 240.
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Looking forward to the TCL coming out to see how it compares to the H9F. Maybe this is a good thing as some AV'sr' have bout the hisense baking in their homes, basically trialing out for the rest, notwithstanding FOMO and Quantum, rtings opinions, as they say, " good things come to those who wait"?
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Even though I won't be buying this year (no HDMI 2.1), really looking forward to pro reviews to see if there's reason to be excited for next year.
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Even though I won't be buying this year (no HDMI 2.1), really looking forward to pro reviews to see if there's reason to be excited for next year.
I googled HDMI 2.1 but i have been out of touch on my tvs for the last 2 season. Can you give a quick synopsis of why 2.1 will be important? If its to allow 8k tech wont the streaming companies have to catch up to that first? I'm not into physical media. If HBO GO; other Cable apps dont support 4k yet then whats the point? Hell even HULU is still stuck at 720p and 2.0 stereo. And when we do finally see a large roll out of 8k services there will be a newer, better display than this one here and everyone will be back to upgrade mode in 3-4 years.

eta: this is a good intro to 2.1: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/what-is...ews-29318.html maybe better audio enhancements
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I googled HDMI 2.1 but i have been out of touch on my tvs for the last 2 season. Can you give a quick synopsis of why 2.1 will be important? If its to allow 8k tech wont the streaming companies have to catch up to that first? I'm not into physical media. If HBO GO; other Cable apps dont support 4k yet then whats the point? Hell even HULU is still stuck at 720p and 2.0 stereo. And when we do finally see a large roll out of 8k services there will be a newer, better display than this one here and everyone will be back to upgrade mode in 3-4 years.

eta: this is a good intro to 2.1: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/what-is...ews-29318.html maybe better audio enhancements
8K wouldn't be much of a consideration since it's a 4K TV, but being able to accept an 8K source might be useful down the road, just for compatibility's sake.

Main reason for my wanting 2.1 are for the gaming features like VRR and ALLM, and being able to accept a 4k 120hz signal. Outside of that, just the fact that 2.1 is here, I think it makes sense to get a TV with 2.1, in general.
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8K wouldn't be much of a consideration since it's a 4K TV, but being able to accept an 8K source might be useful down the road, just for compatibility's sake.

Main reason for my wanting 2.1 are for the gaming features like VRR and ALLM, and being able to accept a 4k 120hz signal. Outside of that, just the fact that 2.1 is here, I think it makes sense to get a TV with 2.1, in general.

Got it. I guess I should have added that I'm not a gamer either. Thanks!
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I googled HDMI 2.1 but i have been out of touch on my tvs for the last 2 season. Can you give a quick synopsis of why 2.1 will be important? If its to allow 8k tech wont the streaming companies have to catch up to that first? I'm not into physical media. If HBO GO; other Cable apps dont support 4k yet then whats the point? Hell even HULU is still stuck at 720p and 2.0 stereo. And when we do finally see a large roll out of 8k services there will be a newer, better display than this one here and everyone will be back to upgrade mode in 3-4 years.

eta: this is a good intro to 2.1: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/what-is...ews-29318.html maybe better audio enhancements
8K wouldn't be much of a consideration since it's a 4K TV, but being able to accept an 8K source might be useful down the road, just for compatibility's sake.

Main reason for my wanting 2.1 are for the gaming features like VRR and ALLM, and being able to accept a 4k 120hz signal. Outside of that, just the fact that 2.1 is here, I think it makes sense to get a TV with 2.1, in general.
I thought HDMI 2.0 could accept 4K 120hz signal?
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If not, what’s the point of these TVs even having a 120hz panel if they can’t accept it..not sure I get it
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If not, what’s the point of these TVs even having a 120hz panel if they can’t accept it..not sure I get it
1080 120hz, which is the most popular 120hz setting for PC gamers. HDMI 2.0 can do 8K, but only at 30hz. I think it can only do 4K at 60hz. Maybe it can only do 4K at 60hz with HDR? I don't remember. Either way, 2.1 has a lot more bandwidth and can do 8k 120hz, and can do 4k 120hz with no compromises (HDR, 4:4:4 chroma, etc).

Outside of gaming, the 120hz native panels have better CMI implementations, for those that value them, vs 60hz native panels.
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If not, what’s the point of these TVs even having a 120hz panel if they can’t accept it..not sure I get it
Even if they can't accept [email protected], many 120hz TVs can accept [email protected] or sometimes [email protected] For PC gamers, the high framerate is often much more desirable than high resolution, when plugging into the living room big screen. Also, having the 120hz panel usually means the motion interpolation features can go farther and do better than a 60hz panel can do.
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If not, what’️s the point of these TVs even having a 120hz panel if they can’️t accept it..not sure I get it
1080 120hz, which is the most popular 120hz setting for PC gamers. HDMI 2.0 can do 8K, but only at 30hz. I think it can only do 4K at 60hz. Maybe it can only do 4K at 60hz with HDR? I don't remember. Either way, 2.1 has a lot more bandwidth and can do 8k 120hz, and can do 4k 120hz with no compromises (HDR, 4:4:4 chroma, etc).

Outside of gaming, the 120hz native panels have better CMI implementations, for those that value them, vs 60hz native panels.
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Even if they can't accept [email protected], many 120hz TVs can accept [email protected] or sometimes [email protected] For PC gamers, the high framerate is often much more desirable than high resolution, when plugging into the living room big screen. Also, having the 120hz panel usually means the motion interpolation features can go farther and do better than a 60hz panel can do.
Thanks for the info guys. I mean, is this really something I should be worrying about. All I would be using this TV for is gaming, (ps4/ps5) movies, Netflix apps etc.

What do you think
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Thanks for the info guys. I mean, is this really something I should be worrying about. All I would be using this TV for is gaming, (ps4/ps5) movies, Netflix apps etc.

What do you think
Worried about? I wouldn't go so far as to say this is something that you need. They are features that would make games more enjoyable/playable, and give you a bit of a competitive edge, but you could enjoy them just fine if none of those things are a priority for you.

In terms of the PS5, it's been confirmed by Sony that it will be capable of outputting 4K 120hz and 8k and some unknown hz (probably 60), so it will be a 2.1 device. Which games and how many will be pushing those signals, I don't know, but just giving that information. i fully expect Nvidia to release a 2180 ti or whatever they end up calling it, that has HDMI 2.1 around this time next year also. If you don't game on PC though, then that isn't something that would interest you, though.

2.1 is backwards compatible so you will still be able to play just fine. Like I said, it just depends on how much value you put on playing at the highest refresh rate in 4K, getting the lowest possible input lag, and if you think that VRR is valuable.
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Thanks for the info guys. I mean, is this really something I should be worrying about. All I would be using this TV for is gaming, (ps4/ps5) movies, Netflix apps etc.

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Worried about? I wouldn't go so far as to say this is something that you need. They are features that would make games more enjoyable/playable, and give you a bit of a competitive edge, but you could enjoy them just fine if none of those things are a priority for you.

In terms of the PS5, it's been confirmed by Sony that it will be capable of outputting 4K 120hz and 8k and some unknown hz (probably 60), so it will be a 2.1 device. Which games and how many will be pushing those signals, I don't know, but just giving that information. i fully expect Nvidia to release a 2180 ti or whatever they end up calling it, that has HDMI 2.1 around this time next year also. If you don't game on PC though, then that isn't something that would interest you, though.

2.1 is backwards compatible so you will still be able to play just fine. Like I said, it just depends on how much value you put on playing at the highest refresh rate in 4K, getting the lowest possible input lag, and if you think that VRR is valuable.
I get you and what I mean by worry is if it would really hinder my experience with the tv
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I get you and what I mean by worry is if it would really hinder my experience with the tv
Hinder would be a relative term in this case . You will be able to play any of the games without issue. I would consider it a hindrance to not be at the highest refresh rate or have the lowest input lag, but that's probably a narrow POV, on my part.

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