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Can a 85 feel too big for 10 feet?

Sitting about 10 feet away.
Mainly watching movies and TV series.
I’m all for “the bigger the better”.
Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.
I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.
I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.
I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.
Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?
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Sitting about 10 feet away.
Mainly watching movies and TV series.
I’m all for “the bigger the better”.
Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.
I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.
I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.
I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.
Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?
No....I do not believe it will feel too big. Went from 65 to 80, initially afraid the same thing....would never go smaller. The number 1 regret is not going larger!
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Sitting about 10 feet away.
Mainly watching movies and TV series.
I’m all for “the bigger the better”.
Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.
I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.
I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.
I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.
Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?
Bigger is always better and probably perfect for your distance!
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Thanks.
Just out of curiosity, for my distance, what size would be too-big?
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^honestly I don't think their are many sets larger than 85 that aren't astronomically priced...I think you would be in projector territory there...I mean as long as you can manage a TV that size without interrupting your space you should be good to go.
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I sit 9 feet from my 82Q90R.
SD will not look good.
HD, 4k will look good.

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I sit 9 feet from my 82Q90R.
SD will not look good.
HD, 4k will look good.
What do you by SD will not look good? is it unwatchable?
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Sitting about 10 feet away.
Mainly watching movies and TV series.
I’m all for “the bigger the better”.
Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.
I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.
I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.
I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.
Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?
I sit 7 feet from a 135" screen. 10 feet from 85" may not even be close enough to tell the difference between 4K resolution and 1080p resolution. It's definitely not too big. At 4K you need to be very close to see the differences. At minimum I'd try to be within 1 width of the screen.

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10 feet from 85" may not even be close enough to tell the difference between 4K resolution and 1080p resolution.
I'm not concern about telling the difference.
I'm concern about the large field of view. I afraid I will constantly need t move my head/eyes around (like a tennis match )
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From what I experienced, "as big as it gets" is great for movies, but I also use my TV as main computer monitor, which I wouldn't like any bigger.
I'm sitting about 5' from my 55" TV and when I reduced that to 4', I felt it was too big for regular computer duty.

Maybe sitting 5' from a 65" TV is better than sitting 4' from a 55" TV, even thou it's the same apparent size. I can't tell

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I'm not concern about telling the difference.
I'm concern about the large field of view. I afraid I will constantly need t move my head/eyes around (like a tennis match )
Yea as I said I sit 7 feet from a 135”. That’s like you sitting 4.5 feet maybe 5 feet from your 85”. I can easily see the entire screen without moving my head and even further. I’ve never understood this move your head stuff. You’d have to sit 2-3 feet from that 85” before you were moving your head.

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From what I experienced, "as big as it gets" is great for movies, but I also use my TV as main computer monitor, which I wouldn't like any bigger.
I'm sitting about 5' from my 55" TV and when I reduced that to 4', I felt it was too big for regular computer duty.

Maybe sitting 5' from a 65" TV is better than sitting 4' from a 55" TV, even thou it's the same apparent size. I can't tell
I do all my development work on this 4k projector while listening to music. It’s great for a pc monitor. In fact that’s when you need even to sit closer. Then you can turn off the dpi scaling. 7 feet from 135”, 4k is still too small to read comfortably. I have to go with 125% dpi. If I pushed forward another 2 feet I could bring that to 100% giving more desktop space and I proving productivity. Unfortunately I can’t move forward any more without the projector putting a shadow on the screen of my head.
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Should be a good distance for immersion. I'd have the same concerns about eye fatigue but all calculators have it in the acceptable range. I personally view this as you do and would go watch an 85 an 75 from that distance at a shop for a few minutes each to make certain.
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I'm not concern about telling the difference.
I'm concern about the large field of view. I afraid I will constantly need t move my head/eyes around (like a tennis match )
As JS950 suggested, go to a store and compare a 75" and 85" at 10 feet. Your "field of view" as you say maybe different from others.

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Can a 85 feel too big for 10 feet?

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Sitting about 10 feet away.

Mainly watching movies and TV series.

I’m all for “the bigger the better”.

Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.

I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.

I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.

I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.

Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?


I sit 9' - 10’ from my 75” 900E (they did not have the 85” yet). It felt really big going from 60” to 75”. After a few months I wished I had a 85”. I plan on upgrading as soon as I can justify spending the money so soon. Only problem is the only place I can use my 75” after I replace it with an 85” is in the bedroom (have a built-in in the family room and 75” is too big).

Re field of view, when I did my calculations for my room at 10' a 75” would give you 30.5 degrees and 85” 34.3 degrees (37.9 degrees at 9' and 85"). The reference field of view width from SMTPE is 43.3 degrees and 20th Century Fox is slightly closer at 45 degrees so you should be fine and not have to move your head at all.

http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/2013314viewing-angles/

I used this spreadsheet to calculate distances and angles:
http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/...er-calculator/

So at 10’ I would highly recommend the 85”, it may take a while to get used to but I think worth it.


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7' from 135". A little like watching a tennis match, isn't it?

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I use to sit 9-10 feet from 100" and thought it was great even at 1080p. Almost seems your in the movie rather than watching a movie.
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I use to sit 9-10 feet from 100" and thought it was great even at 1080p. Almost seems your in the movie rather than watching a movie.
FYI the following link (scroll to bottom of article) has suggested seating distances for screen sizes and resolution.

With 100" and 1080p, it suggests you could sit between 10' and 17' and note the resolution difference.

You'll note that with a 135" screen displaying 4K UHD, one can sit up to 14 feet away and detect resolution difference.

FWIW it says up to 7' for my 65" screen. I sit at about 12'. I tried 10' and moved back. 7' was not an option.

To answer the OP's question, the graph says he could sit within 8' (85" display with 4K UHD) to detect the resolution.

But should detecting resolution be our eyes and brain's primary objective. I say no. Feel comfortable and enjoy.

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Sitting about 10 feet away.
Mainly watching movies and TV series.
I’m all for “the bigger the better”.
Biting myself trying to decide between the 75X950G and the 85X950G.
I know that based on the TV-distance-charts, 85 should be OK for that distance but when I visualize the 85 in my living room, it scares me.
I don’t want to buy the 75 and regret not going bigger.
I don’t want to buy the 85 and find out it isn't practical.
Is there any chance the 85 would feel too big?
Not at all, the THX calculator for viewing distance: https://myhometheater.homestead.com/...alculator.html
It makes sure you can take in the entire scene without having to move your head, some people like a slightly larger viewing angle (40 degrees) for more immersion but your 10 feet is spot on, not too close. I'm 8 feet away and am tempted to go 85" just because I can I can always move the chairs back 2 feet, right?
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FYI the following link (scroll to bottom of article) has suggested seating distances for screen sizes and resolution.

With 100" and 1080p, it suggests you could sit between 10' and 17' and note the resolution difference.

You'll note that with a 135" screen displaying 4K UHD, one can sit up to 14 feet away and detect resolution difference.

FWIW it says up to 7' for my 65" screen. I sit at about 12'. I tried 10' and moved back. 7' was not an option.

To answer the OP's question, the graph says he could sit within 8' (85" display with 4K UHD) to detect the resolution.

But should detecting resolution be our eyes and brain's primary objective. I say no. Feel comfortable and enjoy.

https://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html
All true but the OPs question had nothing to do with resolution and all to do with eyestrain cause by eye or head movement. He wants to make certain he doesn't have a less relaxing situation from the larger screen.
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All true but the OPs question had nothing to do with resolution and all to do with eyestrain cause by eye or head movement. He wants to make certain he doesn't have a less relaxing situation from the larger screen.
It's all related, js950. He didn't mention eyestrain specifically, either.

Both OP and I mentioned a tennis match analogy. I think that's what he'd have with an 85". Cheers.
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Both OP and I mentioned a tennis match analogy. I think that's what he'd have with an 85". Cheers.
He would not have the "tennis match" effect at that distance. I use a 75" at 8 feet which has a higher viewing angle than an 85" at 10 feet and do not have that issue. If anything 9 or 9.5 feet would be a better viewing distance for an 85".
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He would not have the "tennis match" effect at that distance. I use a 75" at 8 feet which has a higher viewing angle than an 85" at 10 feet and do not have that issue. If anything 9 or 9.5 feet would be a better viewing distance for an 85".
I agree, further distance makes more sense. Big screen hyperbole can get in the way of reasonable viewing distances.

The OP obviously has reservations after studying his space and envisioning an 85. He may not have an optimum HT or the seating flexibility for viewing in a family or living room.

Most (maybe not at AVS) are watching atleast three resolutions regularly in a family or living room setting. Compromise is needed.

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I have an 85 at that sort of distance. I'm already looking at 120 inch short throw lasers....


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Thumbs up Well, I’ve bought the 85X950G.

TL;DR
If it was possible/available, I would have even gone larger to 95 or 105.

I’ve been using this TV for a week now.
After the initial 60-second-shock from its sheer size, it feels really natural in my living room.

First, the TV, as an electronic rectangle device mounted on the wall, looks very neat. It almost complete the surrounding furniture. So natural, that some guests don’t even notice I got a new TV at first glance.
The TV itself is spectacular in all contents. But I already knew that in advance after investing many hours reviewing it in the stores.
The size feels natural and as the time passes on, I’m certain I could have accommodated a larger set.

So, to validate the arguments you kind people have made – you were right. Buying the 75 would have definitely made me regretful. Had a 95 set been available, I might have even been regretful buying my 85.
I’m extremely happy with this purchase. Wish my TV a long and meaningful life.
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Not at all, the THX calculator for viewing distance: https://myhometheater.homestead.com/...alculator.html
It makes sure you can take in the entire scene without having to move your head, some people like a slightly larger viewing angle (40 degrees) for more immersion but your 10 feet is spot on, not too close. I'm 8 feet away and am tempted to go 85" just because I can I can always move the chairs back 2 feet, right?
That's an interesting calculator. I've been wanting a bigger screen for my media room, where we sit 8 feet from a 75-inch display that I still love. According to the calculator, that's the right size and distance.

In our living room downstairs, where we watch most of our programming, we sit 12 feet away from a 65-inch display. The calculator says we should have a 100-inch screen at that distance. Maybe I've been looking at this backwards and should get something bigger downstairs.

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