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I haven't been on I'm awhile however I got the 9.2 update. Does the Local Dimming still crush blacka on High? I kept it on medium. Anyone?
I can use the High setting with DV content and Cable, but HDR forces me to use the Medium setting combined with HDR Dark. Any other combination is too dark. With DV, the Normal picture setting works great with High dimming. High as works with regular SDR content like cable in Movie picture mode and Normal brightness.
Gamma: I do have to set this to 2.0 for HDR content. The default 2.2 works fine for everything else. I'm on software ver 9.2.2 now.

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I just got this TV Sunday. I'm reading through all the posts I'm on page 12. But I had to jump to the end to post this pic and see if you guys see the banding issue As well. I don't know if it's my eyes or shadows. I know it's there in the corners but I think I see it more and I think I see the vertical banding. Tell me what you think. This is a 5% white screen.
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I just got this TV Sunday. I'm reading through all the posts I'm on page 12. But I had to jump to the end to post this pic and see if you guys see the banding issue As well. I don't know if it's my eyes or shadows. I know it's there in the corners but I think I see it more and I think I see the vertical banding. Tell me what you think. This is a 5% white screen.

Look nearly identical to mine, a few pages back I posted it. In regular content I don't notice it, or it doesn't bother me. I think that's the best you're gonna get. Yellowing is far better and less noticeable then grey bar DSE, which was more apparent in last years model.


Just don't run anymore tests and just enjoy content. See how you feel after a week or so. I was critical of mine but that nagging feeling has mostly gone away now that I've seen the best this TV has to offer. Keep your color tone warm as it should be, and the whites will look fairly nice and the yellow should get pretty lost in normal content. Or calibrate the white balance accordingly, and it should be fine.


I'd be more worried about the other functionalities. This TV has a ton of problems other than minor DSE.
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What settings do you have set up? Also I do you tell me to just enjoy it and then say there’s other problems can you please explain? I only have it a few days. What should I be looking for?
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What settings do you have set up? Also I do you tell me to just enjoy it and then say there’s other problems can you please explain? I only have it a few days. What should I be looking for?

sounds like he got a bad panel, ive had zero issues with my TV besides the flickering while on bright mode but that was fixed last update
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Re: Prime Video. Only have it a few days but every time I open prime video the logo pops up and the set seems to flicker a bit when the logo is on the screen anyone else have this issue?
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Hi all. I wanted to add that the latest firmware update (9.2.2 I think) completely fixed the severe audio sync issues I was having with my 55R625 over ARC to a Sonos Beam. ARC was only usable with the TV set to PCM-Stereo. The beam is not surround sound but it definitely sounds better with a Dolby signal being sent to the sound bar.

A couple other points....I had the 2018 model for a couple of weeks before I returned it for this 2019 QLED. The 2018 never had an ARC issue for me. The 2019 does seem to have much better local dimming (less splotchy bloom) in dark scenes. If you watch in a bright room this may not be noticeable but it is quite apparent to me in a dark setting. Didn’t compare side by side but motion seems just as good on the 2019, at least I can’t tell the difference from the 2018. Overall both sets are great but I appreciate the better local dimming as I often watch this TV in a dark setting. Colors look great on both sets.
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When I got this TV I was initially disappointed by how washed out the colors were on movie mode. I set it up (temporarily) just below my LG B6 OLED and compared the two. The colors on the TCL were washed out and anemic. The blacks were gray. (Not trying to start an OLED vs LED war here). So, I tweaked the colors a bit and then I used the iPQ app on my Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus and now the colors are close to the OLED. Note that the OLED is NOT professionally calibrated, but I watch it on "isf Expert Dark Room) setting, which has been described by reviewers at the time as the closest thing to a professional calibration without actually getting one.

Anyways, I'm happy with this TV now. Can someone take a look at the gray uniformity and let me know how it fares compared to the other here?
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What settings do you have set up? Also I do you tell me to just enjoy it and then say there’️s other problems can you please explain? I only have it a few days. What should I be looking for?
Overall this TV is great. A few people have had issues with auto detect for audio ARC/HDMI, motion artifacts in fast moving screnes from the the "action smoothing" settings, and other odd and ends.

As for me, I will tell you my issues but overall I think this TV is great, it is phenomenal for my usage. In the living room, It looks great and I get complements all the time when people visit.
Issues for me were just a few things that I had to figure out. Like some of the default settings are strange to me. TCL defaults Action Smoothing (soap opera effect) for several of their video modes such as Normal and Sports, I think it was on even in some of the HDR and Dolby Vision modes. This is a little weird because something like the soap opera effect is subjective to the individual. Some people can't stand it and some can. I think very few love it, at least when it come to all content, few love the soap opera effect for everything they watch. So my issue is a setting that is easily turned off in the menu? I don't like that is defaulted on, that's just me being Nick picky? Well, kinda I guess. I think the soap opera effect is weird on all TVs and I don't like it. I wouldn't watch it on any tv but I find this version by TCL is crazy on this TV. Maybe it's just too aggressive but I have seen people on YouTube say they like it on this set. The majority don't seem to.

This is a personal preference but I think TCL should have defaulted Action Smoothing Off for all modes and you probably wouldn't have ever heard anything about motion issues.
I use all motion processing settings turned off for most streaming videos or Motion Smoothness which looks perfect to me for most content.

Other issue I have had is a couple times playing around with settings, video modes and a bunch of rewind/pausing has caused some of the apps to glitch.

In sound settings watching ultraHD Spiderman Far From Home in the Vudu app, in the virtual surround settings, changing back and forth "on for all", "on for Dolby Atmos", and "off" back and forth would eventually cause the sound to drop about half it's loudness. Skipping back button, RWD, FWD - just anything that reloaded the stream would fix it (including restarting the app). This was repeatable for me, playing with virtual surround settings, changing mid stream back and forth, I could get it to glitch up again. Maybe it's fixed with the new update, maybe not. It's not normal scenario and I am doing things to induce it.

Other little things have occured by messing with a bunch of settings over and over while on streaming content. This is me trying to cause glitch ups. And if you try, you might get something to glitch, I was able to but I haven't found any other that were repeatable issues. This sort of stuff maybe due to a specific app and nothing to do with the TV but I know changing all kinds of settings while going back15s rewinding, pausing, playing can sometimes cause a glitch. The solution, exit the app and restart it.

But, dude. Anyone who ever used a smart TV knows about app glitching and bugs. This is completely a non issue on normal usage. The built in Roku is top notch, it's fast and other than unique circumstances, you really do not need any extra streaming device. It's 4k streaming with HDR and Dolby Vision. It works extremely well and I absolutely love that I do not need a separate box in the way.

But when it comes to having thousands of apps available, there is always a chance of some of them being buggy. It's Roku, which has had it's own bugs to take care of. But that is with all things, all streaming devices. Roku has been way better for me than my Samsung smart TV, today it is an older tv but even when I bought it, I could not ever rely on just the internal smart TV functions. It was not a good stand alone set, so many issues I had to buy a streaming box, which is what turned me on to Roku, which was maybe 4yrs ago.

All modern TVs that come out have their quirks and issues. No brand/model is perfect, nothing ever launched goes 100% without issues for every person that gets one.
Modern TVs are becoming ever more complex. Just for displaying, there is so much going on before a frame ever appears. it is mind blowing how much is involved for each and every frame, one that will exist only for 1/60th of a second on the screen. It has become even that much more complex with "high end" features such as local dimming. It's difficult to grasp the enormity of what all is happening in order to see the video that is playing. Breaking things down from the video source, which is just billions and billions of bits, binary data that differs from source to source. This is more complex than most people understand, the source of video data on a smart TV is vast and it varies in compression and multiple codecs, it's decompiled to be used for raw data each screen frame for video.

The video data is like direct instruction for the illumination of each pixel, thru the combinations of intensity of each sub pixel. At 4k, that scale is far too much data to wrap the mind around. And yet today, so much more than that occurs. It's like the raw data is more or less a guide and the TV set is actively enhancing every frame.

That's just a small touch on this.
Smart TVs are extremely complex. Some models are plagued with issues that may or may not ever get resolved. Others are better off. But none are perfect.
Overall, it's a great TV for me. I am really really happy with it. It's got a lot going on for it, a lot of great and some things you will have to figure out. But it only matters how it works for you. And if you're satisfied.
Unless your set is damaged, it's gonna be hard to go out and get something hands down better anywhere near this price point.

With all TVs you buy, there is a screen lottery. I could not get a decent H9F anywhere and I ended up with my 65R625. And honestly, I don't think I could have been happier. Especially after seeing how slow and crappy my neighbors Android TV performs. It's so slow to the point of unresponsiveness.
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What do you all think? Should this go back? I can't tell what's real and what's shadow? The more I stare at it like this the more the issues I think I see disappear. Please help
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What do you all think? Should this go back? I can't tell what's real and what's shadow? The more I stare at it like this the more the issues I think I see disappear. Please help
How does it look with actual viewing material? Your panel looks better than some of the others I've seen in the forums. I would be happy if all of them looked like that. Is it 100% perfect? Can't really tell from photos. But again, doesn't look bad by any stretch. No guarantee you'll get better in the returns process either.
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Hi all,

Please help. Is this a faulty panel. I see black shadow in rainbow shape at the bottom.
Should I initiate exchange?
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Please help. Is this a faulty panel. I see black shadow in rainbow shape at the bottom.
Should I initiate exchange?
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No if ands or buts exchange it immediately. That is a terrible panel. Send it back.
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Consumer Reports rated the TCL R625 the best TV this year and compared it to the H9F. TCL beats it. Take a look. People are gonna say CR is bs..hahaha whatever. Rtings.com is the only reviewer who has been wrong on both TVs with there reviews in these TV's this year. Link below.

https://www.consumerreports.org/products/compare/?id=399431-399929
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Consumer Reports rated the TCL R625 the best TV this year and compared it to the H9F. TCL beats it. Take a look. People are gonna say CR is bs..hahaha whatever. Rtings.com is the only reviewer who has been wrong on both TVs with there reviews in these TV's this year. Link below.

https://www.consumerreports.org/prod...=399431-399929
cant see it unless youre a member i guess, could u paste some of the text, im curious
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What build is everyone on? I'm on software 9.2.2 Build 6106 is this the latest updates?
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What settings do you have set up? Also I do you tell me to just enjoy it and then say there’s other problems can you please explain? I only have it a few days. What should I be looking for?

Nothing in particular because my problems could be different than any other given user. The "HDR Bright" setting is still not working for me. and I've had numerous glitches. Some people have had problems with Local Dimming being consistent. All I was saying is that DSE is less of a problem if you experience some type of glitch that hurts the viewing experience. If you're not experiencing anything, then great. There's nothing in particular to really "watch out for".


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sounds like he got a bad panel, ive had zero issues with my TV besides the flickering while on bright mode but that was fixed last update

I have a good panel based on TCL standards. The HDR Bright flickering has not been fixed in the latest update. I also like to dig deeper into TV's than most folks, so I tend to notice more problems. Maybe that's my own fault. But it's largely been a pleasant experience despite all the glitching.


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What do you all think? Should this go back? I can't tell what's real and what's shadow? The more I stare at it like this the more the issues I think I see disappear. Please help

It looks really good to me. Especially in terms of TCL standards. I say keep it, because if you return it, you may end up with a worse panel.
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Whenever I lstart up Prime or Disney+ when the logo screen comes on there is a flicker/blink on the screen. The logo shows up and then it does that flicker/blink thing and then right back to the logo. These are the native apps on the TV not be run through any other device. Anyone else having this issue/problem if so what do I do about it?
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SPORTS/MOTION - PLEASE HELP. The motion is terrible when I’m watching football. I’m watching a game r/n on the NFL network and I’m playing with all the settings and I CANNOT get it to look good.
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Anyone ever heard of doing an RMA for DSE, what is TCL's response for such a thing. I have been thinking about it as I am out of return period but seeing bars on more content and its hard at times to not notice it.

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SPORTS/MOTION - PLEASE HELP. The motion is terrible when I’m watching football. I’m watching a game r/n on the NFL network and I’m playing with all the settings and I CANNOT get it to look good.
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Anyone ever heard of doing an RMA for DSE, what is TCL's response for such a thing. I have been thinking about it as I am out of return period but seeing bars on more content and its hard at times to not notice it.
Anyone have any thoughts?

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try contacting TCL, ive heard theyre pretty good about repairs and ****, maybe youll get lucky?
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For sure. I thought maybe someone had done it.

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Just got the 65". HDR and Dolby Vision content from both Amazon and Disney+ are washed out, dull and too dark. Tried every possible settings including adjusting Gamma to 1.8. The pictures are nowhere close how good a non-HDR 4K video looks. For example, Avengers in Amazon is a non-HDR version UHD. It looks so bright and colorful compared to barely watchable picture in Disney+ version in default settings. Even after pushing brightness to the max and adjusting Gamma, it never gets decent enough.

Some of the YouTube HDR videos look fantastic (Samsung and LG demo videos). Event some of the demo videos in Dolby app look okay. So, I am really confused.

Is anyone else having the same problem? Is there a way to tinker with HDR format in a secret menu? Please help!
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Just got the 65". HDR and Dolby Vision content from both Amazon and Disney+ are washed out, dull and too dark. Tried every possible settings including adjusting Gamma to 1.8. The pictures are nowhere close how good a non-HDR 4K video looks. For example, Avengers in Amazon is a non-HDR version UHD. It looks so bright and colorful compared to barely watchable picture in Disney+ version in default settings. Even after pushing brightness to the max and adjusting Gamma, it never gets decent enough.

Some of the YouTube HDR videos look fantastic (Samsung and LG demo videos). Event some of the demo videos in Dolby app look okay. So, I am really confused.

Is anyone else having the same problem? Is there a way to tinker with HDR format in a secret menu? Please help!

Dolby vision and HDR content will naturally look darker because it's supposed to be viewed in a completely dark room, like a theater.

That said, I did have the same problem initially, coming from an ultra bright NU8000 where HDR stuff looked generally pretty great. It;s just something you get used to.

My solution has been using HDR Normal, or Dolby Vision Normal setting. (HDR Bright is broken for me, still, but you can try it. the backlight fluctuates too much on that setting) Leave the Brightness to 50, but keep the backlight to 100. The gamma should be at 2.0, but 1.8 for darker content should be fine. I've gotten used to the 2.2 setting for the deeper, nicer colors. And honestly, I pump up the color from anywhere to 80 to 93. I have a plasma and a TCL 5 sereis, along with my previous NU8000, and to just match those sets, color needs to be jacked in HDR.

The Marvel movies in particular are mastered pretty dull overall. Those aren't good barometers in judging HDR sadly. And those require a dark room. The youtube videos are juiced up for show rooms etc. Those aren't really great barometers either to be honest, but they do look dazzling. It's setting unrealistic expectations for films.

The good news with this TCL TV is that it upscales content BEAUTIFULLY. If you can, please use actual discs too, because that content will always be much better than streaming. Some standard Blu Ray discs look better than a UHD stream of certain movies. Ala Endgame, the 1080 Blu Ray, tramples all over the UHD disc due to the fantastic upscaling and handling of bright highlights and low lights with this TV. I've gone from exclusively buying 4k blu rays, to now sprinkling in standard blu rays because of how this TV handles 1080 content.

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I would greatly appreciate some input on how my panel rates. It is the 2018 model. I notice some minor DSE any time the camera pans up/down against solid colored backgrounds. It is nothing major but not quite ideal either. Would you guys consider my panel average? Better/worse?
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New to this tv. Got the 55”. Notice that with action smoothing on I see a lot of artifacting around objects (my kids were watching toy story 3 4K/Dolby through Vudu for example). I usually don’t like the effect anyway and will turn it off, but was curious if this is normal behavior for this tv.
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Absolutely normal, its the cost benefit of soap opera effect. I would play with the setting (normal, low, high). I think low is a good happy medium.

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New to this tv. Got the 55”. Notice that with action smoothing on I see a lot of artifacting around objects (my kids were watching toy story 3 4K/Dolby through Vudu for example). I usually don’t like the effect anyway and will turn it off, but was curious if this is normal behavior for this tv.
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Absolutely normal, its the cost benefit of soap opera effect. I would play with the setting (normal, low, high). I think low is a good happy medium.
Thanks for that. I have been trying cinema and no motion, but was getting worried because I was seeing weird slowdown and jumps. I *think* I might have it figured out, as this was on an appletv input and I think it may have had something to do with the Match Content settings on that device.

At least I hope so. Getting artifacting with motion on and slowdown/hitches with it off is not a combination I’d be happy about.
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