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TCL 8-Series Roku TV Launches in U.S. Exclusively at Best Buy

TCL has announced the U.S. launch of its 8 Series TVs. These are 4K HDR TVs that offer QLED technology for vivid color along with Quantum Contrast that employs over 25,000 mini-LEDs as a FALD backlight (in the 75" model) and 1000 addressable zones. The result is spectacular picture quality with high peak brightness, great screen uniformity, and deep blacks.

The TCL 8-Series TVs feature the Roku TV platform, which makes it easy to use and provides an enormous library of content from the get-go. You can even search over 40 channels at once for movies and shows using just your voice. Dolby Atmos technology is built-in, providing an expanded soundfield using the TV's built-in speakers.

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Pricing is $1999.99 for the 65" model and $2999 for the 75" with pre orders starting today.



Here's the full press release:

TCL Teams Up with Best Buy to Deliver Most Advanced Roku TV to Date – The All-New Premium 8-Series

America’s Fastest-Growing TV Brand Rolls Out First-to-Market Quantum Contrast Technology Powered by Mini-LED Back-Lights, Available Only at Best Buy

CORONA, CA, October 8, 2019 - TCL®, one of the world’s best-selling and America’s fastest-growing television brand, today announced the U.S. availability of its much-anticipated 8-Series exclusively at Best Buy. In an exciting partnership, TCL and Best Buy will bring the powerful new models, featuring revolutionary picture and Dolby Atmos® audio technology for next-level performance, to consumers this month.

TCL’s 8-Series meets the highest standards in home entertainment solutions, adopting Quantum Dot (QLED) color technology as well as Quantum Contrast, and is the world’s first television utilizing newly developed high-performance Mini-LED back-lights. The TCL Roku™ TV 8-Series models will be available in a 65” 4K resolution model (65Q825) for $1999 and in a 75” 4K resolution model (75Q825) for $2999 exclusively through BestBuy.com and Best Buy stores across the country, with pre-orders beginning today.

“By leveraging TCL’s massive R&D team and our unique vertical integration capabilities, we are able to develop a solution that will provide broad color volume and stunning whites, while displaying the inky blacks that our users are demanding. The 8-Series is a testament to what we can accomplish with innovation that meets those needs. There are very few display devices available at any price that can match the cinematic picture and audio quality that these sets can deliver,” said Chris Larson, Senior Vice President, TCL. “Together with Roku and Best Buy, we are thrilled to see our vision of providing a first-rate home theater experience to the U.S. market come to life and we hope to further spread excitement for the new 8-Series with an outstanding retail experience that elevates our world-class product assortment. We are confident that this powerful new TV line will mark a milestone in our North American offering and strengthen TCL’s position as a leader in the global consumer electronics industry.”
The new 8-Series delivers groundbreaking new technology for an experience of color, contrast and clarity that’s unmatched by almost any other television. With a measured 100% color volume in the DCI-P3 Hollywood reference color space, the QLED color technology in the 8-Series Roku TV models will deliver deeply saturated reds, stunning greens and spectacular blues without the limitations of lower color volume or shorter life found in other display technologies.

The 2019 8-Series TCL Roku TV models feature a completely new contrast technology, developed to deliver the picture quality performance fundamental to a great TV experience. With Quantum Contrast technology, a new standard in TV performance is being defined with more than 25,000 individual Mini-LEDs powering the 75” 8-Series TV, compared to only a few hundred traditional LEDs found in standard big-screen TVs. This first-to-market technology allows the 8-Series to produce brilliant whites shining next to deep blacks and now sets a new benchmark for LCD TVs to directly take on high-contrast OLED TVs in delivering a superior overall viewing experience. Quantum Contrast yields a major improvement in picture performance including a significant jump in total TV brightness, substantial increase in Contrast Control Zones® (local dimming zones), smoother and improved even light distribution throughout the screen, enhanced uniform reproduction of color across the screen, wider viewing angles and a slimmer design.

TCL Roku TV 8-Series

TCL’s new 8-Series Roku TV models are engineered to push the boundaries of HDR using the latest technologies combined with TCL’s broad expertise in designing end-to-end high-performance display systems. Embraced by all the major Hollywood studios, leading content providers such as Amazon, Netflix, VUDU and more, as well as video sources like Xbox One and Apple TV, the Dolby Vision™ HDR technology supported on the 8-Series TVs delivers spectacular visual experiences that bring all forms of entertainment to life.

Driven by machine-learning algorithms matched with vast knowledge in human visual perception, TCL’s AiPQ Engine™ optimizes color, contrast and clarity for an unrivaled 4K HDR experience. AiPQ Engine features three core picture quality algorithms - Smart HDR for vibrant color, Smart 4K Upscaling for sharp clarity and Smart Contrast for dramatic depth. With TCL’s deep supply chain vertical integration, TCL Roku TV models can intelligently compensate for any small performance variations of components used in each TV to optimize the color accuracy. This smart performance control called iPQ Engine® was first introduced in 2018 TCL TVs and in 2019, TCL is expanding the capabilities beyond an algorithm running on the TV, adding functionality that allows an app for select Android and iOS mobile phones to improve the performance even more.
While picture quality is consistently the main driver of a TV’s performance, audio quality enables deeper immersion in stories and a true emotional connection to what’s on the screen. New for 2019 in 8-Series Roku TV models, Dolby Atmos audio technology delivers a new dimension of enveloping audio performance. Atmos audio delivers an object-based surround-sound experience where sounds are precisely assigned to any position around or above the listener, producing a powerfully moving experience in the 8-Series TCL Roku TVs.

In addition to a striking bezel-less design called “FullView,” all 2019 8-Series televisions come equipped with a convenient Auto Game Mode feature that works with the latest generation of game consoles to automatically enable the TV’s Game Mode when a video game is played. Auto Game Mode is designed to deliver some of the lowest input lag performance for fast-trigger response and helps ensure that the TV picture always looks its best with all types of video content.

With over 5,000 streaming channels featuring access to 500,000+ movies and TV episodes, TCL Roku TV models are even more versatile with Easy Voice Control which allows compatibility with popular third party voice assistants to give users additional options to control the TV via the Roku remote, third-party device or mobile app. In addition, Roku Voice makes it easy to launch streaming channels, search for entertainment, turn the TV on and off, switch inputs and more. Now, when customers use voice on their remote control to search for specific movies and TV shows on nearly 40 channels, their TV will begin playback rather than display search results.
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What's not to like? They should have helped DSE here with the very uniform backlighting. Scaling was already pretty good on TCLs so at this point the only question will be whether that have motion down to where they can compare to another brand a letter lower in the alphabet. With more zones etc, the fald algorithm will be more significant but I suspect this will be pretty well sorted as well.

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TCL has announced the U.S. launch of its 8 Series TVs. These are 4K HDR TVs that offer QLED technology for vivid color along with Quantum Contrast that employs over 25,000 mini-LEDs as a FALD backlight (in the 75" model) and 1000 addressable zones. The result is spectacular picture quality with high peak brightness, great screen uniformity, and deep blacks.

The 8 Series is a Roku TV which makes it easy to use and provides an enormous library of content from the get-go. You can even search over 40 channels at once for movies and shows using just your voice.

Dolby Atmos technology is built-in, providing an expanded soundfield using the TV's built-in speakers. Pricing is $1999 for the 65" model and $2999 for the 75" with pre orders starting today.

Here's the full press release:

TCL Teams Up with Best Buy to Deliver Most Advanced Roku TV to Date – The All-New Premium 8-Series

America’s Fastest-Growing TV Brand Rolls Out First-to-Market Quantum Contrast Technology Powered by Mini-LED Back-Lights, Available Only at Best Buy

CORONA, CA, October 8, 2019 - TCL®, one of the world’s best-selling and America’s fastest-growing television brand, today announced the U.S. availability of its much-anticipated 8-Series exclusively at Best Buy. In an exciting partnership, TCL and Best Buy will bring the powerful new models, featuring revolutionary picture and Dolby Atmos® audio technology for next-level performance, to consumers this month.

TCL’s 8-Series meets the highest standards in home entertainment solutions, adopting Quantum Dot (QLED) color technology as well as Quantum Contrast, and is the world’s first television utilizing newly developed high-performance Mini-LED back-lights. The TCL Roku™ TV 8-Series models will be available in a 65” 4K resolution model (65Q825) for $1999 and in a 75” 4K resolution model (75Q825) for $2999 exclusively through BestBuy.com and Best Buy stores across the country, with pre-orders beginning today.

“By leveraging TCL’s massive R&D team and our unique vertical integration capabilities, we are able to develop a solution that will provide broad color volume and stunning whites, while displaying the inky blacks that our users are demanding. The 8-Series is a testament to what we can accomplish with innovation that meets those needs. There are very few display devices available at any price that can match the cinematic picture and audio quality that these sets can deliver,” said Chris Larson, Senior Vice President, TCL. “Together with Roku and Best Buy, we are thrilled to see our vision of providing a first-rate home theater experience to the U.S. market come to life and we hope to further spread excitement for the new 8-Series with an outstanding retail experience that elevates our world-class product assortment. We are confident that this powerful new TV line will mark a milestone in our North American offering and strengthen TCL’s position as a leader in the global consumer electronics industry.”
The new 8-Series delivers groundbreaking new technology for an experience of color, contrast and clarity that’s unmatched by almost any other television. With a measured 100% color volume in the DCI-P3 Hollywood reference color space, the QLED color technology in the 8-Series Roku TV models will deliver deeply saturated reds, stunning greens and spectacular blues without the limitations of lower color volume or shorter life found in other display technologies.

The 2019 8-Series TCL Roku TV models feature a completely new contrast technology, developed to deliver the picture quality performance fundamental to a great TV experience. With Quantum Contrast technology, a new standard in TV performance is being defined with more than 25,000 individual Mini-LEDs powering the 75” 8-Series TV, compared to only a few hundred traditional LEDs found in standard big-screen TVs. This first-to-market technology allows the 8-Series to produce brilliant whites shining next to deep blacks and now sets a new benchmark for LCD TVs to directly take on high-contrast OLED TVs in delivering a superior overall viewing experience. Quantum Contrast yields a major improvement in picture performance including a significant jump in total TV brightness, substantial increase in Contrast Control Zones® (local dimming zones), smoother and improved even light distribution throughout the screen, enhanced uniform reproduction of color across the screen, wider viewing angles and a slimmer design.

TCL Roku TV 8-Series

TCL’s new 8-Series Roku TV models are engineered to push the boundaries of HDR using the latest technologies combined with TCL’s broad expertise in designing end-to-end high-performance display systems. Embraced by all the major Hollywood studios, leading content providers such as Amazon, Netflix, VUDU and more, as well as video sources like Xbox One and Apple TV, the Dolby Vision™ HDR technology supported on the 8-Series TVs delivers spectacular visual experiences that bring all forms of entertainment to life.

Driven by machine-learning algorithms matched with vast knowledge in human visual perception, TCL’s AiPQ Engine™ optimizes color, contrast and clarity for an unrivaled 4K HDR experience. AiPQ Engine features three core picture quality algorithms - Smart HDR for vibrant color, Smart 4K Upscaling for sharp clarity and Smart Contrast for dramatic depth. With TCL’s deep supply chain vertical integration, TCL Roku TV models can intelligently compensate for any small performance variations of components used in each TV to optimize the color accuracy. This smart performance control called iPQ Engine® was first introduced in 2018 TCL TVs and in 2019, TCL is expanding the capabilities beyond an algorithm running on the TV, adding functionality that allows an app for select Android and iOS mobile phones to improve the performance even more.
While picture quality is consistently the main driver of a TV’s performance, audio quality enables deeper immersion in stories and a true emotional connection to what’s on the screen. New for 2019 in 8-Series Roku TV models, Dolby Atmos audio technology delivers a new dimension of enveloping audio performance. Atmos audio delivers an object-based surround-sound experience where sounds are precisely assigned to any position around or above the listener, producing a powerfully moving experience in the 8-Series TCL Roku TVs.

In addition to a striking bezel-less design called “FullView,” all 2019 8-Series televisions come equipped with a convenient Auto Game Mode feature that works with the latest generation of game consoles to automatically enable the TV’s Game Mode when a video game is played. Auto Game Mode is designed to deliver some of the lowest input lag performance for fast-trigger response and helps ensure that the TV picture always looks its best with all types of video content.

With over 5,000 streaming channels featuring access to 500,000+ movies and TV episodes, TCL Roku TV models are even more versatile with Easy Voice Control which allows compatibility with popular third party voice assistants to give users additional options to control the TV via the Roku remote, third-party device or mobile app. In addition, Roku Voice makes it easy to launch streaming channels, search for entertainment, turn the TV on and off, switch inputs and more. Now, when customers use voice on their remote control to search for specific movies and TV shows on nearly 40 channels, their TV will begin playback rather than display search results.

They are directly calling out OLED. Boy do I hope this lives up to the claims. I feel like first gen should have been 2,000 zones to really make a difference and showcase this technology.
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Personally, i can't wait to read the first test reports of the 8-Series, especially the test report from Rtings.com.
Is it going to be all that is promised and expected ? How about DSE, bandings and darker corners ? How good is the video processing ? Etc, etc, etc...
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@KD8118 "Directly calling out OLED"??? I don't see that. I see them calling out yesteryear's traditional FALD LCDs. These mini-LEDs are a much needed evolution to the technology and one that hopefully (we'll certainly see), brings the tech closer to OLED.
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Personally, i can't wait to read the first test reports of the 8-Series, especially the test report from Rtings.com.
Is it going to be all that is promised and expected ? How about DSE, bandings and darker corners ? How good is the video processing ? Etc, etc, etc...

That is what turned me off from the 6 series last year the DSE, bandings and dark corners was too much to ignore I am hoping that they fix it but i wont hold my breath
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@KD8118 "Directly calling out OLED"??? I don't see that. I see them calling out yesteryear's traditional FALD LCDs. These mini-LEDs are a much needed evolution to the technology and one that hopefully (we'll certainly see), brings the tech closer to OLED.
They must be referring to the part of the press release that says "This first-to-market technology allows the 8-Series to produce brilliant whites shining next to deep blacks and now sets a new benchmark for LCD TVs to directly take on high-contrast OLED TVs in delivering a superior overall viewing experience."

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They must be referring to the part of the press release that says "This first-to-market technology allows the 8-Series to produce brilliant whites shining next to deep blacks and now sets a new benchmark for LCD TVs to directly take on high-contrast OLED TVs in delivering a superior overall viewing experience."
Will you be getting a review sample ?
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They must be referring to the part of the press release that says "This first-to-market technology allows the 8-Series to produce brilliant whites shining next to deep blacks and now sets a new benchmark for LCD TVs to directly take on high-contrast OLED TVs in delivering a superior overall viewing experience."

Exactly! I would have no problem if they left out Oled and are competing with other fald lcd.... But they are directly calling out OLED so they set the expectations higher! They deserve egg on their face if this is just a marginal improvement to traditional fald.
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Very tempted to order one. Though, it's kind of hard to justify it considering I purchased my 75R615 early this year...

and a 65R615 last year.


If they offered an 85", at least I'd be able to justify it due to the size increase. Oh well, I guess I'll wait and see what's offered later this year or next.

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I am not quite sure how to read this. Does it mean Best Buy has the launch exclusivity, or distribution exclusivity for the U.S. throughout the 8 series' availability?
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I wonder if it will have the same poor FALD viewing angles.
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Uh, wth TCL? Best Buy exclusive? Guess I won't be getting an 8 series since I have like $1k in Amazon gift cards ready to put towards a new TV
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So, it references the amount of mini leds in the 75". What about the 65? I'm assuming it'll still employ mini-leds, just a smaller overall amount?

Have they confirmed whether these are a 60hz or 120hz panel? Assuming the latter.
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I am not quite sure how to read this. Does it mean Best Buy has the launch exclusivity, or distribution exclusivity for the U.S. throughout the 8 series' availability?
I take it as a launch (pre-order) exclusive for Best Buy. You can still do a search for 65q825 on Electronics Express and view the item with a status of "On order, coming soon"
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Seems pretty direct and clear to me...

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However, it's probably all BS Marketing Talk as usual, so I would take it all with a pile of salt.
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Anyone wanting to discuss the TV, etc... here is the ongoing discussion thread:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...ilability.html

.. It's a little annoying how we will have a long thread going on this forum with discussion then all of the sudden another thread for the same model "pops up" and lo and behold, there are then two fragmented discussions going on with duplicate questions / info galore.

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Anyone wanting to discuss the TV, etc... here is the ongoing discussion thread:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...ilability.html

.. It's a little annoying how we will have a long thread going on this forum with discussion then all of the sudden another thread for the same model "pops up" and lo and behold, there are then two fragmented discussions going on with duplicate questions / info galore.
Well, that's just how it goes. New homepage articles need comment sections, and forum threads act as that comment section. Soon the newsletter will go out and there will be more discussion. Thank you for the link to my other post. Hopefully people already in a discussion have the "discipline" to stay in that discussion and not get tempted by the "new" discussion lol.

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Anyone wanting to discuss the TV, etc... here is the ongoing discussion thread:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...ilability.html

.. It's a little annoying how we will have a long thread going on this forum with discussion then all of the sudden another thread for the same model "pops up" and lo and behold, there are then two fragmented discussions going on with duplicate questions / info galore.
Well, that's just how it goes. New homepage articles need comment sections, and forum threads act as that comment section. Soon the newsletter will go out and there will be more discussion. Thank you for the link to my other post. Hopefully people already in a discussion have the "discipline" to stay in that discussion and not get tempted by the "new" discussion lol. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif[/IMG]
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Seems pretty direct and clear to me...

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The TCL Roku™ TV 8-Series models will be available in a 65” 4K resolution model (65Q825) for $1999 and in a 75” 4K resolution model (75Q825) for $2999 exclusively through BestBuy.com and Best Buy stores across the country, with pre-orders beginning today.
However, it's probably all BS Marketing Talk as usual, so I would take it all with a pile of salt.
Given the Amazon model will be 75Q827 (if it follows the 2018 model naming convention) and Costco the 75Q823 it is “accurate” to claim the 75Q825 is Best Buy exclusive, for example.
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I went to my Best Buy yesterday and asked.

They didn't even have it in their system as far as they could see.



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Can someone explain why you wouldn’t buy an LG B8 series over this for the same if not less? I think TCL makes great mid range TVs, but once you hit the same price as an OLED why would you buy this?



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Personally, i can't wait to read the first test reports of the 8-Series, especially the test report from Rtings.com.
Is it going to be all that is promised and expected ? How about DSE, bandings and darker corners ? How good is the video processing ? Etc, etc, etc...
"A measured 100% color volume in the DCI-P3 Hollywood reference color space." Perfect?

"Embraced by all the major Hollywood studios." Replacing Panasonic?

"A striking bezel-less design called “FullView”. TCL website photos appear to show a slimmer bezel, not no bezel?

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Higher brightness and imperviousness to burn-in would be my guess.

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"A measured 100% color volume in the DCI-P3 Hollywood reference color space." Perfect?

"Embraced by all the major Hollywood studios." Replacing Panasonic?

"A striking bezel-less design called “FullView”. TCL website photos appear to show a slimmer bezel, not no bezel?
The sentence about Hollywood studios refers to Dolby Vision.
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I wonder if it will have the same poor FALD viewing angles.

I think it was described as similar from people who have seen it, but the engineer that was interviewed by Vincent claims mini-led's have better viewing angles because of how the light is placed. Remains to be seen.


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People are afraid of burn in and mixing up their viewing habits. TCL is directly calling out oled to be a viable low light alternative, if this is actually true it would be very appealing over Oled. Call me skeptical though.
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Too early. That's what reviews will hopefully tell us. More adaptable to room lighting? How close is its PQ to OLED? Less prone to burn-in? 2.1 tech?

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I think it was described as similar from people who have seen it, but the engineer that was interviewed by Vincent claims mini-led's have better viewing angles because of how the light is placed. Remains to be seen.

People are afraid of burn in and mixing up their viewing habits. TCL is directly calling out oled to be a viable low light alternative, if this is actually true it would be very appealing over Oled. Call me skeptical though.
I've seen it and viewing angles are indeed fairly typical for a FALD, not as good as the latest Samsung QLEDs. I'm sure rtings will quantify it.

IMO the 8-Series has the potential to look better than OLED with some HDR content (but not starfields, OK?) when viewed head on. Even with the lights out. The extra lumens are meaningful and the FALD is super effective at avoiding halos or other artifacts. But OLED will beat it in viewing angles and in some scenes OLED will still achieve greater contrast.

But there's going to be cases where the TCL looks better, like many video games or nature docs or animation or really any movie that's not filmed in the deep shadows and many other cases where the TCL keeps up with OLED with typically challenging scenes (torches, for example) as long as you are not sitting off to the side.

With lights on I'd expect the TCL to look better that OLED (again, on-axis) because of the brightness.
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