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Arrow TCL 8 Series Roku TV (2019 Model - 65" & 75") *Owner's Thread*(No Price Talk)

Hey guys,

Thought I'd go ahead and start an "owner's thread" for the new TCL 8 Series because owners are finally starting to receive their new TV's.

Discuss! And please remember, per forum rules, no "street price" discussion here.

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I found that roku os has major problems on this TV. All apps are broken, have black crush, don't apply settings... I used those apps to test and my findings were incorrect. Don't use it! Use any other external streaming device! PQ is much better on hdmi ports.
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I already shared my thoughts on this TV in another thread, just want to repeat it here.

Huge box and TV is heavy. TV itself does not have a cheap feel except for remote.
Out of the box there is black crush in all modes. Calibrating grayscale is a must in my opinion. 11pt calibration using phone app fixes black crush for all modes at once.
Gamma setting 2.0 is closer to 2.2 and setting 2.2 is closer to 2.4. Leaving it 2.2 and calibrating 2.4 gave me the best picture.
I did not find any issues with SDR and HDR10. Those are not OLED black levels for sure, but still good. SDR can be set very bright which is good for bright rooms.
DV is the only mode where I could see issues. For example, there was patch of zones completely off in several dark scenes. Same movie same scene in HDR10 did not have such problem.
Just curious. Have you checked those calibration results with an external meter and 3rd-party software?

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Will owners who receive the 8 Series- PLEASE include the size (65/75) that you purchased and are talking about in you review and discussions.. Thanks, Gerry

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Just curious. Have you checked those calibration results with an external meter and 3rd-party software?
I used i1 display pro and calman.
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Does local dimming work with game mode on this TV?
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Does local dimming work with game mode on this TV?
It is disabled in Game Mode to keep the input lag low.

You can enable it, but it will increase input lag dramatically

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DV is the only mode where I could see issues. For example, there was patch of zones completely off in several dark scenes. Same movie same scene in HDR10 did not have such problem.
If you adjust the gray scale can you get it to stop turning them off in DV? Sounds like they really need to have separate setting in DV, hopefully they add that in a future update.
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If you adjust the gray scale can you get it to stop turning them off in DV? Sounds like they really need to have separate setting in DV, hopefully they add that in a future update.
Because of Dolby's stranglehold on anything and everything to do with DV, that may be tougher/take longer to do than we think. Sony more or less bypassed this by engineering their top of the line sets to use the SDR settings as the global baseline environment for everything: SDR and both HDR10 and DV.

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I wonder what the sales are like on this thing? When is rtings going to do their review?
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I wonder what the sales are like on this thing? When is rtings going to do their review?
Sales are probably not very high considering that Best Buy is the only channel, selling at retail price and availability is still patchy.
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Fomo Tech's preliminary review on the 8 ....seems like shadow algorithms are a problem.



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Fomo Tech's preliminary review on the 8 ....seems like shadow algorithms are a problem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsOty0woKTY
That's funny, I thought things were patched up in an update.

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https://twitter.com/Vincent_Teoh/sta...34602545680384

Vincent was the one throwing the biggest stink about it, and this was at a TCL event were one would think the TV would look it's best. Now well you can see the praise he was heaping on to it.
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I would never pay $3k for a TV . I don't care if its mini-led, micro-led, aero-led. It's just crazy. Especially if it's from a company like TCL who makes great TV's mind you but they are an early adopter of mini-led even still would never pay 3k for a TV unless I was a billionaire.
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I would never pay $3k for a TV . I don't care if its mini-led, micro-led, aero-led. It's just crazy. Especially if it's from a company like TCL who makes great TV's mind you but they are an early adopter of mini-led even still would never pay 3k for a TV unless I was a billionaire.
Anyone paying full price is a fool, or loves to show off the "new" tech. This is TCL, once it's available everywhere you will be able to get the 75" for 1800-2000, and the 64 might hit 12-1300.
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I would never pay $3k for a TV . I don't care if its mini-led, micro-led, aero-led. It's just crazy. Especially if it's from a company like TCL who makes great TV's mind you but they are an early adopter of mini-led even still would never pay 3k for a TV unless I was a billionaire.
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I would never pay $3k for a TV . I don't care if its mini-led, micro-led, aero-led. It's just crazy. Especially if it's from a company like TCL who makes great TV's mind you but they are an early adopter of mini-led even still would never pay 3k for a TV unless I was a billionaire.
Well even $3000 is pretty cheap for a top of the line TV if you're an enthusiasts considering a 37" LCD TV cost like $20,000 in 1998 and a VCR like $2500 back in 1980 which was a lot money back then ! ...LoL
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I got my 75" today and love it.

I only wish I could find the iPhone IPQ calibration app so I can calibrate it
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....ok?
Yeah that was one of the most useless posts I've seen on here...

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I got my 75" today and love it.

I only wish I could find the iPhone IPQ calibration app so I can calibrate it
Congrats!

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I got my 75" today and love it.

I only wish I could find the iPhone IPQ calibration app so I can calibrate it

You must be a billionaire
Look forward to your impressions. Let us know if you have a firmware update to install after getting it set up please.
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. Let us know if you have a firmware update to install after getting it set up please.
Yup, as soon as I completed setup the first thing it told me was there was a firmware update.

Also this series 8 tells you if you have a Dobly vision stream and something I have never seen before it will also tell you the audio stream is in Dolby Atmos. You can turn them On/Off in settings.

My impressions are its a well built product. Like everyone says the remote is your typical Roku remote. I can live with the TCL remote. I don't need to learn anything new as I already know the Roku remote.

I would rather they save money on the remote then on the TV.
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Any ARC audio delay issues?
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Any ARC audio delay issues?
I just got my amp today. I will connect the preamp and amp and let you know if I have any ARC audio delay issues

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Got everything up and running and there are no ARC audio delays

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Just received a new update, will test it on weekend.
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Digital trend's review: https://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-rev...65q825-75q825/

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I got my 75" Series eight last weekend and I had a firmware update immediately and a new firmware update today. I wish I knew what they fixed

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Man... I really wanted this TV to be "close enough" to OLED for me... but the no local dimming on game mode is the deal breaker for me. gah! I hope they can fix that w/ a firmware update.
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