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post #1 of 10 Old 11-19-2019, 08:38 PM - Thread Starter
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Replacing Projector with QLED TV

Hi guys! Super old member here! Used this forum many years ago to discuss projector build outs. Been using what I learned here for three different very awesome builds at my houses! At any rate, I think the projector game is just too far behind and I'm ready to move on. Seeing the beautiful QLED and OLED Tvs at Costco has me hooked I think!

Anyway, right now I have an old short throw BENQ 1080p DLP projector. It is the common model from a few years ago (forgot the exact model now). I mostly use it for gaming. I feel like HDR QLED will really help my gaming improve and have a much better picture. The screen is 110". I sit about 9 feet away. This is how I have been gaming for at least 7 years.

I looked at a 4k HDR projector but read some reviews and it seems like that is not nearly as good as QLED LCD. Would a 4k HDR projector be significantly better than my current old 1080P projector? This also leads to my next point, I am looking at an 82" screen. The price jump to 85" is significant ant not worth it in my mind. Will I feel super short changed going from a 110" screen to 82"? Seems like a huge difference to me...


This leads to my main point. Samsung has a lot of QLED options for great price points. I think I should go for a FALD unit and not an edge lit unit? Looking at the q70 series but that only has 48 dimming zones vs the 96 for the q80 or 480 for the q90. These seem like significant numbers to me. Am I going to notice a huge difference between q70 and q90? Will the blooming affects be bad with the Q70? Should I just go with the q60 edge lit unit? The 82" q70 is 2500 vs 4500 for the q90. Probably not terribly interested in the 4500 priice tag of the q90 right now...


Thanks an advance for any advice!
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If HDR is one of your reasons to change, keep in mind samsung does not support Dolby Vision HDR, which is becoming quite common nowadays. Reason for them not supporting Dolby vision - they co-developed HDR10+ and their fat ego won't allow them to support a rival format.
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This leads to my main point. Samsung has a lot of QLED options for great price points. I think I should go for a FALD unit and not an edge lit unit? Looking at the q70 series but that only has 48 dimming zones vs the 96 for the q80 or 480 for the q90. These seem like significant numbers to me. Am I going to notice a huge difference between q70 and q90? Will the blooming affects be bad with the Q70? Should I just go with the q60 edge lit unit? The 82" q70 is 2500 vs 4500 for the q90. Probably not terribly interested in the 4500 priice tag of the q90 right now...
If you're jumping from a projector to an LCD, yes, go for an FALD VA panel. If you like the Samsung "QLEDs" and the Q90R is too pricey, the Q80R is very close with the same wide viewing angle and great anti-reflective coating. The Q70R does not provide wide angle viewing, just the standard narrow VA panel viewing angle, and has a semi-gloss screen without the great anti-reflective coating. The 82" Q80R is priced halfway between the Q70R and Q90R at $3,500. The 82" Q80R does come with an odd 40 x 12 FALD array though.
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Thanks Dave! So the Q80 would be worth the extra $1000 in your opinion? Also, I saw a page that said the Q70 has 48 dimming zones and the Q80 has 96 while the Q90 has 480. Does that sound accurate?
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Thanks Dave! So the Q80 would be worth the extra $1000 in your opinion? Also, I saw a page that said the Q70 has 48 dimming zones and the Q80 has 96 while the Q90 has 480. Does that sound accurate?
Your dimming zone numbers are correct. If you require wide angle viewing, the Q70R would not be a good choice. If wide angle viewing isn't a factor, then you need to look at both models as they are quite different. For example, the Q70R has a semi-gloss screen, while the Q80R has a glossy screen. The only thing that gives me pause about the 82" Q80R is that bizarre 40 x 12 FALD matrix. The 75" Q80R has a much more sensible 30 x 16 matrix which better fits the 16 x 9 screen format.
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I have a Sony VPL VW-695ES 4k Projector in my home theater (which is blacked out and completely light controlled) at about the same distance as you (10 feet back) and it's breathtaking. Granted, I did have to invest in a good screen (a 115" Stewart Cima) and have the unit professionally calibrated, but it is a stunning picture and huge. I have a 65" Samsung QLED in my living room and it just doesn't hold a candle to the projector.
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Thanks Dave! I dont think I really need the ultra wide view capability. What is all the difference on the backlighting numbers? Will I notice much difference on picture quality due to the difference in the backlight arrays? I think that is probably where my biggest question is on the q70 vs q80.


That's a sweet sounding setup Mojo but that's a little outside of what I want to do right now! We will probably move in the next five years so a high end projector room wouldn't be a good investment right now. Thanks for the info though!
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Thanks Dave! I dont think I really need the ultra wide view capability. What is all the difference on the backlighting numbers? Will I notice much difference on picture quality due to the difference in the backlight arrays? I think that is probably where my biggest question is on the q70 vs q80.
PQ has to do with many things. The Q80R has a brighter glossy screen, better contrast with local dimming, better anti-reflective performance, better dimming performance for HDR, slightly better WCG and more color volume. Since you're talking a $1,000 difference and you don't need the wide angle viewing, you should take a look at both. If you're not fixated on Samsung, the 85" Sony 900F is also worth a look at $3,000.
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I would not advise anyone to buy a hdr tv that does not support dolby vison after building up my 4k bluray dolby vison collection plus hours of netflix streaming I am now able to easily see the difference between it and hdr if you are an enthusiast and you dont have it you are missing out.
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Thanks for all the help guys, especially Dave! Went to best buy today and compared in person. The q80 was a bit nicer and the anti glare coating looked good and worked well. Viewing angle didnt seem much different between the q80 and q70. Came home and ordered a q80r for the basement and a q60r for above the fireplace. I think I made the right call!
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