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Best 65” tv in $1200-$1500 range

Tv for a little bit of everything gaming, tv and movies. Sound quality and smart features do not matter, need tv solely for image quality.

Have ideas but open to any suggestions. At $1200 p70r and X900F. At $1500 X950G and p series quantum x. Is there that much of a difference in visual quality to justify spending an extra $300?
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Tv for a little bit of everything gaming, tv and movies. Sound quality and smart features do not matter, need tv solely for image quality.

Have ideas but open to any suggestions. At $1200 p70r and X900F. At $1500 X950G and p series quantum x. Is there that much of a difference in visual quality to justify spending an extra $300?
Can't see how you'd be unhappy with the Sony 900F, it's a very good all around TV. The Sony X950G is just a slight upgrade IMO, so it's up to you if it's worth $300 more. The Vizio P Quantum X, while visually stunning, but has the usual Vizio mediocre 720p upscaling and panel QC issues such as vertical banding and DSE. In addition, according to Rtings, the Enhanced Viewing Angle feature doesn't work but then invokes sub-pixel dimming that lowers the color resolution.
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Tv for a little bit of everything gaming, tv and movies. Sound quality and smart features do not matter, need tv solely for image quality.

Have ideas but open to any suggestions. At $1200 p70r and X900F. At $1500 X950G and p series quantum x. Is there that much of a difference in visual quality to justify spending an extra $300?
Get the vizio p quantum x. It’s the only top of the line tv in the group. The rest are just overpriced mid range TVs. Just look at their specs. You are paying for the brand name. The 900f is a 2018 model. Dolby vision should be important to you. Sony also has issues with its Dolby vision implementation. Samsung doesn’t have Dolby vision it does hdr10+. The vizio is the only tv that does both hdr10+ and Dolby vision. It’s also better for gaming than Sony. It also gets the brightest. It has better colors. It also has better blacks, they are more gray on the other TVs. If you see them in person you should be able to see the difference between the px and the others. If you cant tell the difference you should buy a cheaper tv than any of the ones you picked. My friend has a p quantum x and ESPN one of the few 720p channels looks good on it. Fox doesn’t but fox doesn’t look good on any 4K tv. There is a panel lottery on every tv you buy. But the vizio is worth it. It’s also cheaper on Black Friday at Costco. you might want to get the 75” because it’s really close to your price range on Black Friday.
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Ok so originally I wanted to only spend $1200 but figured what’s another $300. At this point everyone I talked to still seems to put the X900F and the p series quantum x relatively close. Now this might be a dumb question but for another $200 is the q80r noticeably better? Yes I understand generally the more I pay for a tv the better it should be but can’t justify spending $300 more for the quantum x if people are telling me the X900F is still comparable (in this tread 1 and 1). So at +$500 is the q80r that much better and remember I only care about image quality not sound or smart features.
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Ok so originally I wanted to only spend $1200 but figured what’s another $300. At this point everyone I talked to still seems to put the X900F and the p series quantum x relatively close. Now this might be a dumb question but for another $200 is the q80r noticeably better? Yes I understand generally the more I pay for a tv the better it should be but can’t justify spending $300 more for the quantum x if people are telling me the X900F is still comparable (in this tread 1 and 1). So at +$500 is the q80r that much better and remember I only care about image quality not sound or smart features.
Not “better”. Different. You’re going to pick your poison with those three choices. The 900F has the most accurate color with almost no banding. The 900F also has the best upscaling and motion performance, but the worst blooming of the three. The Q80R has the best wide angle performance and blooming control of the three at the expense of shadow detail and native contrast. The Q80R also does not have Dolby Vision. The PQX has by far the brightest screen and the best contrast performance with FALD enabled, but it has the worst upscaling and color gradient performance.

Only you can decide which set fits your preferences best. To use yet another tired and imperfect car analogy: Do you want a 2 seater sports car, a 4 door sports sedan, or an SUV with all-wheel drive?
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Next Friday the PQX will be $999 at Costco making it easily the lowest cost on your list. Add that to its plus column.
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Ok so originally I wanted to only spend $1200 but figured what’s another $300. At this point everyone I talked to still seems to put the X900F and the p series quantum x relatively close. Now this might be a dumb question but for another $200 is the q80r noticeably better? Yes I understand generally the more I pay for a tv the better it should be but can’t justify spending $300 more for the quantum x if people are telling me the X900F is still comparable (in this tread 1 and 1). So at +$500 is the q80r that much better and remember I only care about image quality not sound or smart features.
Might as well get the b9 oled. It’s 1799 right now. That’s almost the absolute best tv you can buy. Just remember the px is comparable to the q90r not the q80. It actually fits between them. Again just look at the specs. The number of local dimming zones. The brightness. It’s blacks are better. The other TVs just look dull next to it. If I’m not mistaken I believe the 75” will be 1599.00 at Costco Roght now till 12/2. If you are going to stretch your budget you might as well go bigger.

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Ok so originally I wanted to only spend $1200 but figured what’s another $300. At this point everyone I talked to still seems to put the X900F and the p series quantum x relatively close. Now this might be a dumb question but for another $200 is the q80r noticeably better? Yes I understand generally the more I pay for a tv the better it should be but can’t justify spending $300 more for the quantum x if people are telling me the X900F is still comparable (in this tread 1 and 1). So at +$500 is the q80r that much better and remember I only care about image quality not sound or smart features.
Might as well get the b9 oled. It’s 1799 right now. That’s almost the absolute best tv you can buy. Just remember the px is comparable to the q90r not the q80. It actually fits between them. Again just look at the specs. The number of local dimming zones. The brightness. It’s blacks are better. The other TVs just look dull next to it. If I’m not mistaken I believe the 75” will be 1699 at Costco Black Friday. If you are going to stretch your budget you might as well go bigger.
I would agree if all you watch is 4k and hdr programs but it certainly lacks in the color accuracy and scaling department. This is coming from a 2018 pq/2016 p owner. The PQ is ranked even higher than this years model. Too many issues to list here...gradient, upscaling, slow OS, color inaccuracy, poor input lag for 4k and 1080p hdr games, ect, ect...
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Big thing I should have mentioned earlier. In the room when I’m putting this tv is a 10’ wide window. I talked to a woman at Best Buy maybe a month ago and she said I should steer clear of OLEDs due to this. Does this have any truth? Also the couch in front of the television is a large sectional so viewing angles are a slight concern. Nothing big though normally just me and the wife watching to we sit centered.
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Big thing I should have mentioned earlier. In the room when I’m putting this tv is a 10’ wide window. I talked to a woman at Best Buy maybe a month ago and she said I should steer clear of OLEDs due to this. Does this have any truth? Also the couch in front of the television is a large sectional so viewing angles are a slight concern. Nothing big though normally just me and the wife watching to we sit centered.
The px has excellent reflection handling that’s from rtings. It definitely gets bright enough. My friend doesn’t have the lights reflect off of his but the sun is not hitting it so I have no first hand knowledge. Probably not as good as Samsung’s on the 80r. The 70r isn’t so good with reflections. To be honest people say that a lot about oleds but I have the sun shine on my oled b7a thru a window above my front door that I cant put curtains or blinds on for a couple hours a day and it handles reflections pretty well while it’s on. So it’s anti reflective coating is doing the job. It definitely seems to get bright enough. I only have my oled light on 20. I’m guessing you have blinds or curtains that will help with that. So that’s up to you. You can always just return it if you want to try it and don’t like it. Samsung 80r and 90r are supposed to have the best anti reflective coating. Haven’t seen them in person though outside of the store. Just checked rtings lg b9 oled has a 9.4 rating px 9.2 Samsung 80r has 9.0 rating for anti reflective coating. So I guess I heard wrong about Samsung’s being better.

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Big thing I should have mentioned earlier. In the room when I’m putting this tv is a 10’ wide window. I talked to a woman at Best Buy maybe a month ago and she said I should steer clear of OLEDs due to this. Does this have any truth? Also the couch in front of the television is a large sectional so viewing angles are a slight concern. Nothing big though normally just me and the wife watching to we sit centered.
Do you watch TV a lot during the day?

Will sunlight from the window shine directly on the TV screen?

Rtings gives LG C9 OLED a very good rating (9.5 Rating) for anti-reflective performance, but cautions against glare from sunlight:

"The LG OLED C9 has outstanding reflection handling, very similar to last year's C8. Like many high-end TVs, the anti-reflective coating adds a slight purple tint. There should be no issues using the TV in a bright room, but if you have a lot of windows it might not be bright enough to completely overcome glare."

Rtings comments on anti-reflective performance for some the TVs mentioned in this thread:

Vizio P Quantum X (9.2 Rating):

"Excellent reflection handling, very similar to last year's P Series Quantum. Unlike many high-end TVs, there is no purplish tint from the anti-reflective layer."

Sony 900F (8.7 Rating):

"The reflection handling of the Sony X900F is great. The semi-gloss finish does diffuse reflections slightly, but not as much as more hazy TVs such as the Samsung MU8000. The anti-reflective coating works well to reduce the total reflections and provides very similar performance to last year's X900E. This should be fine for most rooms, but reflections may be distracting in a very bright room or if sunlight falls directly on the TV."

The Sony X950G (8.7 Rating):

"This TV has excellent reflection handling, very similar to the X900F. You should have no issues using this TV in a very bright room. "
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Ok so the LG b9 sounds like an amazing tv the only bad thing I saw about this tv besides price was temporary image retention or even permanent burn-in. Are these issues I should concern myself with?
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I guess I’m just thinking too hard about this and every tv is going to have its pros and cons. Relatively speaking the more I pay the better I’ll get. That being said (and correct me if I’m wrong) my best options for a 65” by price would be roughly as follows

<$1200 Sony X900F
$1200-$1500 Viziop series quantum x
$1500-$2000 LG b9 series
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I guess I’m just thinking too hard about this and every tv is going to have its pros and cons. Relatively speaking the more I pay the better I’ll get. That being said (and correct me if I’m wrong) my best options for a 65” by price would be roughly as follows

<$1200 Sony X900F
$1200-$1500 Viziop series quantum x
$1500-$2000 LG b9 series
Black Friday at Costco the px will be $999 somebody posted that here earlier. So it might be that price other places too. Maybe my friend just got a good panel. I don’t think the lg b9 will drop too much lower than it is now at 1799 at Best Buy. Where did you see 1500 for the b9? I’m not a fan of the 900f after seeing it at my other friends house the last year so I don’t follow that one. The people at bestbuy talked him into it. He’s not that happy with it. He’s going to replace it Black Friday with something else.
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Ok so the LG b9 sounds like an amazing tv the only bad thing I saw about this tv besides price was temporary image retention or even permanent burn-in. Are these issues I should concern myself with?
Its not much of an issue to begin with as long as you have normal viewing habits. They have added logo dimming to make it even less of an issue. But just in case do you watch cnn or Fox News for 8hours a day every day? If you do you don’t want an oled. Or you could just buy the warranty at bestbuy it covers burn in.
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The price for the 65” b9 series was a range $1500-$2000. The best price I saw for it was $1800. Right now at Costco’s the 65” px is $1200. Think I might have to jump on that price. Worst case scenario if there’s a better price on something next week I return it. For the same price of the X900F currently I think the px is the best deal.
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