Originally Posted by pbz06
The TCL 8 series is terrible in action. The mini LEDs is the right idea, but its processing and backlight algorithm are so inferior to Sony and even Samsung. You can see the dimming in action, where a small white ball moving across the screen looks like a golf ball as the mini LEDs flicker on and off. There have been several reviews that noticed that and called it out.
Samsung Q90 (calibrated because ootb is bad for videophiles), maybe Q80, and Sony 950G are the only real contenders. I would say the 85" Z9G also but that's likely out of our price range at $12k. But again, it's really hard to recommend Samsung with no Dolby Vision support so it is a dilemma. I have seen the 950G in person and was allowed to play with the settings to make them more accurate and movie mode...the blooming is vastly over exaggerated, mostly from people reading benchmarks or comparing them to OLED. I'd rather take proper EOTF over crush or overblown midtones.
Thanks, that’s useful info. I’m not completely surprised: good local dimming algorithms are very hard to do right. It’s particularly weird though to hear that while they have all these mini-LEDs and manufacture them into the panels they’re shipping, they somehow failed to finish developing the technology to address them individually.
It sounds like it’s really down to the Samsung vs Sony flagships. I only compared in-store, so I don’t know what potential there is from alternate settings — but as I said, I found the Samsung Q90 to look more “OLED-like” (in terms of deep clean blacks) than the Sony 950G.
However, I think this is mostly going to be a matter of preference. So to OP, it seems you may want to compare these two yourself and see which is to your liking. If you’re coming from an OLED (LG B6 I see in the signature, same as me), I suspect if the FALD bloom of the Sony bothers you as much as it does me, you’ll find the Samsung Q90 much more to your liking.
I have been enjoying my new Q90 for a while now, and so far quite happy with it (once you configure the settings well enough). It’s a disadvantage that it doesn’t support Dolby Vision, but I don’t really notice anything noticeably lacking so far when playing streaming content that otherwise plays in Dolby Vision mode in my LG OLED.
Honestly all the current HDR formats seem wrong. I don’t know why they don’t just use 16 bits per channel (rather than 10 or 12 with or without metadata), which would entirely eliminate the need for metadata to begin with. And, a 16-bit-per-color-channel format would be future-proof to future micro-LED displays capable of extremely wide dynamic range spanning ultra dark to super bright, with enough precision that posterization/quantization artifacts shouldn’t occur. So as far as I’m concerned, all the current formats are a big mistake.
But yes, Dolby Vision is the best format right now. I just don’t get why it’s so hard to just design a container format that’s even better, and therefore also avoids the expensive royalty fees that presumably Samsung is trying to avoid from Dolby Vision.