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Best choice for 85 inch TV

Hey again,

Just moved and after many years of owning many PJ's i have decided NOT to go back the PJ route. I will be putting up for sale my Epson 5040 and Stewart electric screen (92 inch).

Anyway I have decided to go with an 85 inch TV and have been looking at the 2 Sony TV's. The 900 and 950. Also I see the Samsung and LG have some at 85 inches. I am looking to spend around $3500 or so. I have seen the 2 Sony TV's. Love the 950.

Just wondering what you guys think?

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If its any help, i was in your same boat about a month ago.. After doing research and lots of testing at Best Buy, i would up ordering hte 85" 950g and just installed it Monday. I havent gotten to use it to much yet (still waiting on some cables/wall plates for my speakers), but the pic is excellent and very happy with my choice. Its a HEAVY and Big Bastard, be warned.
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85 inch 900F is cheaper and has better contrast ratio than the 950G. Both are excellent choices.
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I would recommend you include 82" sets in your list, the size difference is minimal. The Samsung Q70R is a great value if you have light control, otherwise the Q80/Q90 have more light output.
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Either Sony will probably be fine, but make sure you check out the blacks before buying.

I bet you can get a 75” and and 82” if you want a second TV. I’ve seen quite a few of these TVs, and I just don’t think the makers provide enough quality and value in the jumps from very good 75” to 82-85” equal but not better for the $1500-2000 price difference.

Good luck, and let us know how it works out.

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The 950 or even 900 would be a very good choice. About the only better tv in this size is the q90 Samsung but the two are fairly close at the end of the day and Samsung will be over your budget unless you wait for the Super Bowl sale.
I almost bought the 850 but have since strongly been considering the Q90 or a 77” OLED.
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....Anyway I have decided to go with an 85 inch TV and have been looking at the 2 Sony TV's. The 900 and 950. Also I see the Samsung and LG have some at 85 inches. I am looking to spend around $3500 or so. I have seen the 2 Sony TV's. Love the 950.
Re the two Sony, unless you need wide angle viewing and three settings for Dolby Vision, go with X900F and save a thousand.

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Re the two Sony, unless you need wide angle viewing and three settings for Dolby Vision, go with X900F and save a thousand.
Dolby Vision is mangled on the X900F, by many accounts. (Much improved on the 950).
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Dolby Vision is mangled on the X900F, by many accounts. (Much improved on the 950).
950G has several updates over the 900F. Faster SoC, X1 Ultimate, nicer remote, Android Pie with Airplay 2, eARC.
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Thanks guys, but is the 950 truly worth 1K more?

Hmmm...

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Thanks guys, but is the 950 truly worth 1K more?

Hmmm...
For those who need it, it's the wide angle viewing that makes it worth more. While the smaller 950Gs (65" and smaller) are very similar in PQ to the 900F, the 75" and 85" are quite different. Now being only $500 more than the 900F makes it a smarter buy.
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If its any help, i was in your same boat about a month ago.. After doing research and lots of testing at Best Buy, i would up ordering hte 85" 950g and just installed it Monday. I havent gotten to use it to much yet (still waiting on some cables/wall plates for my speakers), but the pic is excellent and very happy with my choice. Its a HEAVY and Big Bastard, be warned.
How do you like your new TV? Gotten used to the size yet?

From your pictures, the TV was mounted high. How did you decide how high to mount it? I ask because my 85-X950G is coming and I have to decide how high to mount tHe TV.
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The problem with the 950g is the low gama and color volume... meaning not saturated colors and no pop
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How do you like your new TV? Gotten used to the size yet?

From your pictures, the TV was mounted high. How did you decide how high to mount it? I ask because my 85-X950G is coming and I have to decide how high to mount tHe TV.
Love the TV... Its picture is amazing (blows my 65" 1year old Sammy 4k out of the water)... I mounted mine slightly higher only because I miscalculated by about 4-5" on the mount (I thought I would be able to lower the TVs position on the mounting arms lower).. So it sits 4-5" higher above my center channel (which is a monster). I've been tempted to lower the Mount, but I really dont want to screw 3 new holes into my brand new walls if I dont have to. It doesnt really bother me much. My seating position is far enough away to really make the height negligible

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Love the TV... Its picture is amazing (blows my 65" 1year old Sammy 4k out of the water)... I mounted mine slightly higher only because I miscalculated by about 4-5" on the mount (I thought I would be able to lower the TVs position on the mounting arms lower).. So it sits 4-5" higher above my center channel (which is a monster). I've been tempted to lower the Mount, but I really dont want to screw 3 new holes into my brand new walls if I dont have to. It doesnt really bother me much. My seating position is far enough away to really make the height negligible

Glad you like the TV. I, too, am going from 65-inch to 85-inch. Hope the size is not going to be too overwhelming.


So, to get a proper viewing angle, do you have to tilt the TV?
When I bought the TV, BB threw in free shipping, TV mount and installation.
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950G has several updates over the 900F. Faster SoC, X1 Ultimate, nicer remote, Android Pie with Airplay 2, eARC.

I have just started looking for a 75"er. Putting the picture aside the above is a big difference, the 950 has a better chip set.

If I have it correctly...if you plan on using the TV for apps the 950 may be better.

I love this HD stuff!
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Hey guys - I'm glad I found this topic because I was coming here to ask these exact same questions. I'm moving to a new home with a dedicated home theater and I, too, am ditching a projector for an 82"-85" LED. I am struggling as to if I should stick with 4K or bite the bullet and go with an 8K display. If I stay with 4K, I'm trying to decide between Samsung Q80/Q90 or the Sony 900F/950G. I've used Samsung almost exclusively but have been getting tired with some of their quality control issues and - in my estimation - higher price point for nearly the same display technology than most others in the market. But, having never owned a Sony display I'm not sure what to expect. Is there anyone who has experience with both that can tell me which set can give me the best results for the model range?

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Glad you like the TV. I, too, am going from 65-inch to 85-inch. Hope the size is not going to be too overwhelming.


So, to get a proper viewing angle, do you have to tilt the TV?
When I bought the TV, BB threw in free shipping, TV mount and installation.
I have a TINY TINY bit of downward tilt, not much at all.. The wife isnt complaining either about the height.. It works pretty well for us there.
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Hey guys - I'm glad I found this topic because I was coming here to ask these exact same questions. I'm moving to a new home with a dedicated home theater and I, too, am ditching a projector for an 82"-85" LED. I am struggling as to if I should stick with 4K or bite the bullet and go with an 8K display. If I stay with 4K, I'm trying to decide between Samsung Q80/Q90 or the Sony 900F/950G. I've used Samsung almost exclusively but have been getting tired with some of their quality control issues and - in my estimation - higher price point for nearly the same display technology than most others in the market. But, having never owned a Sony display I'm not sure what to expect. Is there anyone who has experience with both that can tell me which set can give me the best results for the model range?
Too early for 8K. Little or no source material, and tech is only partially there, with some of the same ol' LED issues. Optimistically, 8K entrenched could be 3 to 5 years. Pessimistically, who knows?

4K things to consider. Good value 'til the 8K jump? Better performance 'til the 8K jump? Are Dolby Vision and eARC important? For now, eliminate Samsung re DV and eARC, though they say eARC is coming soon.

From your current considerations, Good value--Sony X900F, Samsung Q80R. Better performance--Samsung Q90R, Sony X950G.

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Hey guys - I'm glad I found this topic because I was coming here to ask these exact same questions. I'm moving to a new home with a dedicated home theater and I, too, am ditching a projector for an 82"-85" LED. I am struggling as to if I should stick with 4K or bite the bullet and go with an 8K display. If I stay with 4K, I'm trying to decide between Samsung Q80/Q90 or the Sony 900F/950G. I've used Samsung almost exclusively but have been getting tired with some of their quality control issues and - in my estimation - higher price point for nearly the same display technology than most others in the market. But, having never owned a Sony display I'm not sure what to expect. Is there anyone who has experience with both that can tell me which set can give me the best results for the model range?
Don’t get the 900f. It’s got issues with Dolby vision. Stick with the 950g or the Samsungs.
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I was doing the same research and shopping about a week ago and ended up with the 86" LG 8070.

I already have the 85" 900F in the family room and wanted to save on the basement man cave/ game room. Already have buyers remorse, but not for the reason I expected (black levels). Black levels aren't so bad. The UX is really nice. But despite disabling all of the motion smoothing-related settings, I still can't fully get rid of the soap opera effect. If this is it, the TV goes back. Soap opera effect, to me anyway, is a way bigger issue than mediocre black levels.
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I was doing the same research and shopping about a week ago and ended up with the 86" LG 8070.

I already have the 85" 900F in the family room and wanted to save on the basement man cave/ game room. Already have buyers remorse, but not for the reason I expected (black levels). Black levels aren't so bad. The UX is really nice. But despite disabling all of the motion smoothing-related settings, I still can't fully get rid of the soap opera effect. If this is it, the TV goes back. Soap opera effect, to me anyway, is a way bigger issue than mediocre black levels.
I'm close to buying an 86" 8070. Did you resolve this or return it?
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I was doing the same research and shopping about a week ago and ended up with the 86" LG 8070.

I already have the 85" 900F in the family room and wanted to save on the basement man cave/ game room. Already have buyers remorse, but not for the reason I expected (black levels). Black levels aren't so bad. The UX is really nice. But despite disabling all of the motion smoothing-related settings, I still can't fully get rid of the soap opera effect. If this is it, the TV goes back. Soap opera effect, to me anyway, is a way bigger issue than mediocre black levels.
I'm close to buying an 86" 8070. Did you resolve this or return it?
The “custom” video profile removes *most* of the SOE. Every one of the other profiles has obvious SOE. Until I stumbled on “custom”, the TV was going back. Now I’m on the fence. The black levels are acceptable to me. TBD. Part of the issue is that our basement is getting additional renovations this week so I won’t be able to watch again down there until the fight Saturday. If you’re not sensitive to SOE, I would say it’s a good TV. If you’re sensitive to it and don’t want to compromise on picture, spend the extra on the 900F.
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The “custom” video profile removes *most* of the SOE. Every one of the other profiles has obvious SOE. Until I stumbled on “custom”, the TV was going back. Now I’m on the fence. The black levels are acceptable to me. TBD. Part of the issue is that our basement is getting additional renovations this week so I won’t be able to watch again down there until the fight Saturday. If you’re not sensitive to SOE, I would say it’s a good TV. If you’re sensitive to it and don’t want to compromise on picture, spend the extra on the 900F.
Thanks. Not sure if I'm sensitive to SOE or not, so maybe I'm not. The 900F is above my budget.
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The “custom” video profile removes *most* of the SOE. Every one of the other profiles has obvious SOE. Until I stumbled on “custom”, the TV was going back. Now I’️m on the fence. The black levels are acceptable to me. TBD. Part of the issue is that our basement is getting additional renovations this week so I won’️t be able to watch again down there until the fight Saturday. If you’️re not sensitive to SOE, I would say it’️s a good TV. If you’️re sensitive to it and don’️t want to compromise on picture, spend the extra on the 900F.
Thanks. Not sure if I'm sensitive to SOE or not, so maybe I'm not. The 900F is above my budget.
In that case go for it. If it makes you feel better, I’ve narrowed my list of 85/86 to the 8070 and 900F. The others don’t make sense to me at the either price point.
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Why anyone would consider any LG LCD in a large size is beyond me, unless picture quality doesn't matter to them at all. Low native contrast, low peak brightness, and no local dimming are not a recipe for acceptable picture quality.
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Why anyone would consider any LG LCD in a large size is beyond me, unless picture quality doesn't matter to them at all. Low native contrast, low peak brightness, and no local dimming are not a recipe for acceptable picture quality.
There could be many reasons. Perhaps it's a matter of beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It could be the size versus picture quality choice. Also a factor is the question of how good is good enough. And then there's the trade off between picture quality when people will only be sitting directly in front of the TV versus a setup where some viewers will be seated 40 degrees to the side.

Since you hold the big LGs in such low esteem, can you offer alternatives to someone who is looking for a greater than 80" TV in the $2K price range which provides a good viewing angle, is not used in a really dark room, and will be watched from 12-14 feet away? I'm not questioning your opinion, I realize there are better TVs, but I haven't found any which meet my criteria for size and viewing angle at the price I've budgeted.

If answering is too much of a hijack for this thread, the OP's price range was quite a bit higher, I already asked my question in the help me choose an LCD thread and would love to get some additional input.
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I wonder what the price will be for the new 85” Vizio.


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Funny. I came to this thread to see if people were going to recommend waiting for the 2020 Vizio P series Quantum X 85" TV. I think that is going to be my set, pending price... 85" is the size I want, and I really want HDMI 2.1, VRR, ALLM, etc. The 2019 P Series Quantum X was a great TV! This one looks to be even better.
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