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2020 Vizio TVs announced. Up to 792 Zones! OLED included! Supports HDMI 2.1 FreeSync!



https://www.vizio.com/2020-tv-collection

HDMI 2.1 and FreeSync support is mentioned at IGN.com.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2020/01...4k-tv-oled-hdr
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Nice when do the tv release this year?
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only Freesync ? not HDMI-VRR (like the 2019 LG OLEDs had gotten recently) ?
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That's nice. After my current experience with Vizio I'd never buy another.

Hopefully this means other manufacturers will start making HDMI 2.1 the new standard.
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Looks like a series bump in local dimming zones for the P series Quantum X. From 480 in 2019 up to 792 for 2020.
BUT . . . it looks like the rest of the Tvs have the EXACT same number as the 2019.
If i'm wrong, please forgive me, but thats what it looks like. VERY disappointing.
Oh well, maybe Samsung will pull the lead out of it's azz and make some serious improvements for 2020.


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I love all 3 of my Vizio's and will be looking hard at the 85 depending on price.

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only Freesync ? not HDMI-VRR (like the 2019 LG OLEDs had gotten recently) ?
I read both.

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I have a 2018 PQ65-f1 thats treated me extremely well. Eye'ing an upgrade for sure!
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I want to return my 2019 M8Q but I'm worried the 2020 could have any degree of vignetting at all, which is a dealbreaker for me.

It feels like brighter sets are more likely to have vignetting.
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Eyed the 2019 Quantum X to replace my Sony x940e but didn't pull the trigger due to little gain in peak HDR nits (using a calibrated picture mode).

Here's hoping the 2020s can at least hit a "real scene" performance level (per Rtings) of 2000nits calibrated. Will keep an eye out.
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Looks good. It's amazing that Vizio is offering significantly more features than the more expensive Samsung. Samsung is so disappointing the past couple of years.
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In for the 85”.
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That new 75 inch P Series Quantum might just get purchased in the spring. Extremely excited to see if it can do 1440p at 120hz


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The one sticking point on that 85" version will be the feet. I love the TCL 8 series stand--creates so many more options for the console. My current console is 70" wide. Based on last year's feet placement, the 85" Vizio likely won't fit given the feet are near the edges of the screen. The feet would likely be too wide. But if they move those in or create something similar to the TCL 8 or Samsung Q90r, I'm in. Such a small detail about design that goes seemingly overlooked by manufacturers but the bigger the screen size, the more relevant it becomes, IMHO. Wall mounting isn't an option for me. But get the feet under 70" between them? And it definitely moves to the top of my list of potential upgrade options in 2020. Get it done, Vizio!
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woohoo for the 85 ... hopefully they fix(ed) the ugly vizio vertical banding
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85 inch LCD and OLED from the show
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ETA and pricing guesses?
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Love my 2019 P Quantum X-75"

been waiting for the 85".. time for another upgrade...
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Missing from the M series is the 43 inch. This may force people with no room for a tv bigger than that to either redo their whole entertainment center or buy this years M series. Hopefully another Manufacturer will step in and make a tv in that size with better specs like the Vizio M was this year.
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I would be interested in the 85 if I knew it did not have the lines (jailbars) running down the pictures showing all of the zone lighting system. This ruined the picture for me on my 75 inch quantum X.......also had lines in the regular 65 quantum.......both went back. My current 77C9 has no visible lines, uneven color patches or issues of any kind.
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Is it wrong of me to hope Vizio's CEO gets arrested for insider trading or eaten by a pack of bears and the company suddenly goes under by November while thousands lose their jobs just so I can go to Brandsmart USA and pick up a 85" Quantum X for $1500? I still have pleasant dreams of angels, puppies and Leo Eco's demise and dirt cheap Umax 85's.
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I'd be eyeing on the 2020 M7 Series Quantum, 50 inch is the perfect size for my mancave room! The specs on there suggest it'll be at least moderately better than last year's M7 model.

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I wish we knew more about the OLEDs. If the panels and video processing are of good quality and these models significantly undercut the LG 10s and the Sonys we could have some competition in the OLED space, meaning prices are going to come down.
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I'm going to keep my eye out for the 55inch OLED. Imagine if their warranty is cover for burn-ins?!
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I wish we knew more about the OLEDs. If the panels and video processing are of good quality and these models significantly undercut the LG 10s and the Sonys we could have some competition in the OLED space, meaning prices are going to come down.
I read somewhere the oled panels are from LG.
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Missing from the M series is the 43 inch. This may force people with no room for a tv bigger than that to either redo their whole entertainment center or buy this years M series. Hopefully another Manufacturer will step in and make a tv in that size with better specs like the Vizio M was this year.
I noticed that, too. Mine's shipped, expecting soon. Yours still good?

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Would be nice to know if these are 10 bit or 12 bit panels.
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Looks like a series bump in local dimming zones for the P series Quantum X. From 480 in 2019 up to 792 for 2020.
BUT . . . it looks like the rest of the Tvs have the EXACT same number as the 2019.
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The 792 zones is the number for the 85 inch. The 75 inch still has 480 and the 65 has 384. In fact the 2019 75 inch might be a pretty decent buy right now if you don’t care about hdmi 2.1 and some other small improvements. I say that because vizio has been known to give massive firmware updates to the previous years model to bring them up to par with the current year model. I owned a 2016 vizio p, and it received an update to perform exactly the same as the 2017 model.

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I read somewhere the oled panels are from LG.
The panels are from LG, so that will limit the amount that Vizio can come down in price, since they still have to pay what other companies are paying to get the panels. Regardless, it’s pretty nice to see more companies jumping in the oled game.

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In the Hdtvtest video, is Vincent saying that they’re getting this level of brightness with the Quantum X from the quantum dot implementation? Thought he said these will have QDCC - quantum dot color conversion. If that’s the case, it explains the brightness and I think would make these the first photo emissive quantum dot lcds.

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